Trestman would be such a bottom-tier move. Might as well hire Mike Leach, at least fans can get excited about the pirate stuff.
Yeah, I wouldn't be a fan of a Trestman hire. Not that I don't think he's a good coach, I'm just not sure it would be what the Hurricanes need right now. I don't know a whole lot about Golden but he seems like the potential up and comer which to me, if you can't get a big name would be the next type of coach you would want. I like Edsall and think he's a very solid coach, but I'm not sure he's ever going to go down as any kind of great coach. To me it seems like higher risk, potentially higher reward with Golden versus lower risk, lower reward with Edsall. I'm still holding out hope that they can pull in a big name though like Patterson.
Shame that Pelini seems to be out of the running. He would of instantly been at the top of my list. I'll take Golden please.
I know Golden isn't a "sexy" hire...but the dude won at Temple. Let me clarify once more...HE WON AT TEMPLE! Edsall wouldn't be bad either, so I wouldn't mind if he got the job. But a big fat no to Trestman
Bring in whomever you wish, if they do not win it will not matter, if they do not send players as high draft picks to the NFL, it will not matter.
Gary Patterson is in deep crap with the NCAA for berating Dr. Sam Haraldson during a september game against SMU for keeping a player from returning after he suffered a concussion.
Ruh Roh Per the Herald. I know. I know. Due diligence and all. He's a former 'Cane coach, graduate and can develop QB's. Still don't like the idea.
Bro, I have watched Trestman for 2 yrs in the CFL I have seen his team constantly over perform it's level of talent and win two titles. Trestman is a Qb guru as well, when a Qb's mechanics or footwork are a problem in the NFL or for a kid coming out in the draft, he is the guy they call. My concern with him is not X's and O's as the man is brilliant, it is recruiting and defensive game planning. Still not sold that he would come to
:hifive: Would love to see him down at as I have seen the man in action and to describe his coaching ability: No team ever beats his team the same way twice, that just does not happen, in fact the next game that team is in for a real good *** kicking as Trestman is sharp as a dagger when it comes to adjusting what his offense is doing, opponents must change what they do in the next meeting or they will get their helmets handed back to them.
I disagree. It’s absolutely a horrible hire, at least from a recruitment standpoint. You’re telling me the good people of Liberty City and other such areas in the Greater Miami metropolis are going to let this guy into their living rooms to recruit their kids? Come on. I don’t doubt that he’s a good gameday coach, but come on. Again, I think the Trestman interview is due diligence. IMO, the hire will be either Randy Edsall, Al Golden, or a candidate out of left field ala Chris Petersen.
Due respect Des, but the lure of the Hurricane program is making the big dance in the NFL, Shannon could recruit in Liberty City and where did that get the program as a whole? To my view, if the Hurricanes wish to start putting Qb's back in the Heisman Trophy Race, this is our guy. As I've said, I am surprised he would seriously consider this move as it is more of a downwards one than an upwards career move.
Trestman, IMO, is the opposite of Shannon: a guy who can coach but would have trouble recruiting. Come on, alen. You know I’m not talking about race here. I’m talking about credibility. Schnellenberger and Johnson were credible from second one. Trestman… doesn’t seem to have gravitas, let’s put it that way.
Well, the best recruiting is competing for national titles and making the NFL. Think about that for a moment Des, who was the Canes last #1 pick? After how many yrs in a row of having at least one Cane go in the first round? That is not lost on recruits at the upper echelon of the food chain. Well fortunately if he is the hire there are 15 scholarships up which is unusually low this cycle, if the team perform well, even in your worst case scenario of Trestman being recruiting dud, a 10-2 season cures ills. As I said, if a 8-4 season is one's cup of tea, then by all means, go with someone else.
You’re putting the cart before the horse, IMO. I don’t see any new coach going 10-2 in their first season at UM. 9-3 at best. Not what I’m talking about. I don’t see Trestman being an effective recruiter within the “State of Miami”. Not because he’s white, but because I just don’t see it. If he’s hired, I’d love to be wrong on this.
Well, I can tell you this, if he is hired, the days of Jacory kind of throwing up punts and hoping the Wr can catch it are over, he runs a serious offense not the grabastic stuff we have been seeing, if anyone should be on board for this hiring it would be Harris Well, Trestman is just an odd duck, sort of Ricky Williams odd, whether that means he can recruit "5 star " guys or not does not really matter as Shannon's highly rated recruiting class kinda sucked. http://www.allcoachnetwork.com/trestman/main.html
Whipple’s offense is pretty good to begin with, so that isn’t the issue. There was some word leaking out after Shannon’s firing that the players weren’t listening to the coaching. Based on the “good riddance” vibe some players have put out, I completely believe that. Maybe if Jacory had competition going into this season, he would have been more likely to not throw into quad coverage so damn often. That’s not to excuse anything Shannon has done, just to point out that a simple schematic change isn’t going to magically make Jacory Harris into the QB we thought he’d be. I don’t care about ratings at all. They’re completely subjective and the guys at Rivals who issue the stars let their college biases get in the way. A 5 star recruit who decides to go to UM somehow gets dropped to 3 stars? Yeah, whatever. The goal should be to recruit the right players for the program, not the right players according to Rivals.
If your not talking about race then what makes you think he will not be welcomed in liberty city living rooms?? Trestman is an offensive guru, and even better with Qb's. A player like Bridgewater would be downrite stupid if he went elsewhere. He went to UM and if he hires the correct assistants, I just don't see how or why he'd have trouble recruiting. Would he have a top 5 recruiting class in his first season? Probably not but like I said, with the right assistants, he can easily be inside the top 15. That's still top talent, and if a coach can actually develop his players, and have a good scheme it's a win win in future recruiting ...
The only thing with Trestman is who he hires or they let him hire to run the defense. I'm sure he'll want to stay in the NFL but someone like a Winston Moss would be very interesting.
Trestman is also the the only HC they could land for the money they were offering, 1.75 million, imho anyway. Agree with Ozman, Trestman is one heck of a field general type, but for goodness sakes do not go cheap on the DefCord.
Interesting mix with Trestman, in the CFL Coaches have to plan on two yr windows with players, so the move to the NCAA is not as daunting, toss in he was in the mix for the Raiders job and he develops Qb's, and a move to the NCAA is not some quantum leap.
I'm sure they were willing to pay the right coach good money. Shalala has been known to be cheap but she knows it's biting her in the keaster now. 1.75 mil is not too shabby though. Hopefully they're willing to spend 4-5 mil on the entire staff...
A bit off topic I guess (and probably quite old), but I've just seen the ESPN film "The U"...what a great documentary. If there are any fans out there that haven't seen it yet I definitely recommend getting hold of a copy from somewhere and sitting down to watch it with a beer (or two!). I was too young to really follow them during that time, but man alive - they seemed like they were a great team to watch. I'll say one thing for sure - you don't get celebrations like they had any more!
Another reason for Trestman is that they could have felt Jacory was under-developed (if that is even a word). They might want to try to recapture some of that magic of Quarterback U and feel he is the best man for the job. I agree with Oz-Man, though---surround him with the right people! They might like him also because he might present stability and, unlike other coaches, may not have an immediate urge to jump in the NFL. Let's face it he's been there, done that, as an assistant coach. I don't see any team offering him a HC position, even if he is successful.
As much as I can find out, he is the guy who said Trestman would be hired, however the CFLDaily report is more detailed when it mentioned the contract being that far along. CFL is a small community where everyone in the front offices knows everyone else so to me, there is some truth there, how much remains to be seen.
Coming off as a weird guy, for starters. I said Liberty City and other areas in the metropolis, and I mean just that. Is Marc Trestman a guy you’d let talk to your kid? I probably wouldn’t, at least not until he shows consistent success. I care less about schematic background and more about whether his leadership style can motivate college players and how well he runs his ship. We get too caught up in whether or not a guy is an offensive or defensive specialist, but that becomes more or less irrelevant when a guy becomes a head coach. At that point the job is about management, not Xs and Os.
OK but you named Liberty City specifically. His assistants job is to get into the houses then let him come in and close the deals. I care about leadership as well, and guess what? How do most HC's get the job to begin with? There schemes! Trestman has been around the block more than a few times, and his leadership has been to the SB, and the Grey Cup.
National Title at as well, he was there in the early 80's. No new information to speak of on Trestman, just he has been interested in the Hurricanes Job for sometime now.
Agreed. I just question if he can close the deal. Speaking of closing deals, why are we even talking about Trestman in this level of detail? He hasn’t signed anything. And once they get the title of head coach, their schemes become irrelevant. It’s one of the great ironies of football. For example, Mike Tomlin ran the Tampa 2 in Minnesota, went to Pittsburgh, and didn’t touch a single thing on Dick LeBeau’s 3-4 playbook. Schemes are for coordinators, not head coaches. You’ll forgive me if I don’t care too much about the Grey Cup. Might as well tell me a guy won a championship in the UFL or Arena League. Doesn’t mean anything to me.
More Twitter chatter: Chris Petersen has an offer on the table, and the Trestman thing is a smoke screen, presumably to hasten Petersen’s decision.
