http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...s-team-must-re-evaluate-quarterback-position/ Hmm, throwing the ball directly into the ground may have been a better option... That's funny. Typically I do not like to quote Volin as he has no depth, if he were better at his job he would note the same thing happened to Henne last yr in the second Bills game, we were on a bit of a roll and had some momentum for a playoff run and Henne had three possessions in the 4th qtr and threw 3 consecutive interceptions to hand the game away to a woeful Bills squad.
It's not funny Pad, just sad. It's too bad. Henne seems like a nice guy, but he just isn't that good. which is typical of Dolphins QB's post Marino. Alot of nice guys, not alot of players.
No, it is quite funny.. I have heard many different stats but that one takes the cake...."Red Z, Go Ground on 3..ready break!"
Hilarious alright. Glad some people are in their glory with the fact we're probably searching for another QB yet again. I fail to see the humour, sorry. You jus tkonw the media was begging for this to happen. Theyre gonna have a field day.
No, now watch, Henne will have a great game vs the Jets he is just wildly inconsistent and I have not forgotten he was great vs the Raiders, but for whatever reason, Henne just has problems stringing together two good games in a row which is why: w/w/l/l/w/l/w/l/w/l/w/l That has been the pattern for the entire season one win, one loss, for two months now.
While I love his arm, my biggest concerns are coming to fruition.. No escapability talent.. No improvisational skill mentally when reads are not open....chaos insues.. No improvisational skill athletically when reads are not open..head goes down, survival becomes priority.. This is the conclusion I myself have come to....I do not want to move forward in offensive philosophy with a player that operates from one spot...I want movement, athleticism, and improvisational skills physically, and mentally.. Type to study Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, and Jake Locker just in case Henne continues to spiral.
We could lose all the rest as far as I'm concerned. We would get a better draft pick from it. And maybe some new offensive coaches.
Disagree, it is always unwise to lose games just from an organizational standpoint, you want "winners" first and foremost and you want a winning tradition established. Seriously, bigger picture, what a job Sparano is doing this year, seriously name me one other Coach who could have his team at .500 with such play at the Qb position? My respect for Coach Sparano grows.
I hear ya bro. Alot of it is the offense as a whole too though. The OL played pretty well against the raiders too, yesterday, not so much. I know theyre banged up though. Hartline played great against the Raiders, he was pretty much invisible the first half, and out the second with an injury. You know I've supported Henne since day one, and the tide is turning for me on that one. I'm just not satisfied with the boneheaded mistakes over and over. Im okay with some once in a while, its to be expected, but its getting out of hand. What boggles my mind though (as i've said in other threads today) is I watched this guy for 4 years at Michigan since I'm a Wolverines fan as well, I never saw him this bad. Which is why I've brought up the question sometimes, what exactly are we teaching this kid behind the scenes? What is Lee doing with him? What is Henning doing to help when its obvious our QB struggles against cover 2? Why does it appear we're doing nothing!!! I don't think its a fact of we are doing all we can, and Henne just isnt absorbing it. One of the knocks on Henne wasn't his intelligence and ability to learn. So, what is the problem here? Why is this staff struggling to develop this guy? Maybe its just him... I dont know, I dont think anyone can say for certain. However, with the lack of offensive ability that this team has shown all year, its not beyond the realm of possibility to think its quite possibly a coaching thing. We've seen him get better in certain area's like touch passes, we've seen him go through progressions at times, we've seen him with increased pocket awarenes, most recently this weekend as he escaped and ran a few times, we see some progress there, we just dont see it all come together yet. that being said though, aside from the Oakland game, when has this TEAM put together a complete game as well??? Not very often... It's a big concern of mine. I still think Henne can recover, and get better, maybe an offseason studying the cover 2, and how to beat zone coverages is what he needs, I don't know that we have the right staff to help though if they haven't helped at all yet this far into the season. Maybe it is him, I dont know, like I said, I just have a hard time believing it because I've never seen the guy play this badly. I'd really like to see us try a new HC and OC before setting on another search for QB since its going to be awfully tough for us to land one in this draft, or FA this offseason.
Classless Padre. A Dolphin QB has a really bad day and you think it is funny. Somehow I expected a little more.
What else can be done but laugh about it? Statistically speaking, the offense would have performed better if Henne had thrown the ball into the dirt rather than across the LoS, do not know about you killahp, that is possibly the worst stat line I've ever heard..
Is it possible that the problem is also the QB coach? Think about it, last year every ball Henna threw was a laser; this year they are all lob passes. If he would have put some mustard on that pass to Hartline, the worst thing that could have happened then was an overthrow. I agree that Henne is having a terribly inconsistent year; I just wish they could fix him rather than start over.
May that's what being a second year QB is about, experience is what it's all about and Henne for a young guy is under alot of pressure, if he beats the Jets he would make me happy. I feel so bad that he is not making steady progress, but one thing for sure this team isn't very good as a package and very inconsistent, look at how they dominated the Raiders and look at what the raiders did to the bolts. Rivers, Manning looked like crap I guess you can group Henne with them this time.
I'm glad to hear your comments, after last season I was looking forward to seeing Henne play and he is not playing to last years level, sometimes he shows so much promise like against the Titans before he got hurt and against the raiders, I don't care about having interceptions but I want him to air it out which is what I thought he could do well. By the way it is too bad he played like he did but $hit happens he may have had a bad day and maybe looking ahead to the Jets.
What some dont want to consider is...a second year Qb is going to be inconsistent. Henne had two great games..some just want to forget about those.. But if he goes off an torches the Jets...I just wonder how many will say Sparano deserves coach of the year because were lucky to be 500 with the Qb we had
Alot of QB's can have two great games in a season. Doesn't make them great QB's. Ryan fitzpatrick has had two great games this year. Would you like to sign him? And just a question, what are the 2 games? Tenn and Oakland?
Yeah, I have zero hate for the guy. Seems like he might be a nice guy to know off the field. But he is not worthy of the Dolphins uniform he wears. Time for this franchise to move on to the next savior. What will this be ? Like # 7 or 8 since Marino ?
First, I agree it was a bad game for Henne. Second, I agree...he is maddeningly inconsistent. But, I disagree on Sporano deserving credit for winning in spite of Henne. IMO, part of Henne's problem is Sporano (Henning too of course). Not only that, but I still question Sporano's game management skills. Taking that first TO in the second half to review the Hillis non-fumble (that had already been shown on replay, and clearly was not a fumble) is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. What did he expect...was it somehow going to change by watching it again? I'm sorry but for all those that are down on Henne and his lack of development/progress in his third year, what about Sporano? Does he somehow get a pass here?
I am not one to say that I can evaluate talent Padre, and I am in no way finding excuses for Henne... He definitley has his issues...but... stay with me... Yesterday watching the Indi-Cowboys game, the commentators were discussing Peyton's poor play, all the INTs (11) in their last 3 games, all losses. A fact Indi has lost 4 out the last 5, and Peyton has thrown a total of 13 INTs in those 4 losses... But those commentators, if some of you heard were actually defending Peyton, and that was the funny part for me... picture this... not verbatum, but they said all the injuries to the talented/ Pro-bowl players that is missing from the Colts team has affected Peyton's performance... he has no star RB, no star WRs, no star TE, and injuries to some of their stud OL, which has impated his performance... you all follow me??? So they said Manning is not really the problem, its all the missing star studded players on that Offense... Imaging a QB in an NFL team that is missing talented and skill players in that Offensive team. How good or more than likely, bad his performance will be, because he has to be nearly perfect with all the throws and decisions... So we have an Offensive team, that currently is missing a ton of talent in 3 areas on the OL, played with our 2nd, 3rd and 4th string WR's, that did their best to drop everything thrown at them, or they allowed the DB to take the ball away, and a TE that rarely shows up to make a catch that was worth it... So there you have it... you have a future HOF, that when he does not the skill and talented players around him he gets a pass... but... When you play the whole year with and OL that is mostly lacks talent, our WR last year (except for Bess), would probably not crack the starting line-up on most teams in the NFL... You stop the run and double BM, which teams have done, and you stop the Miami Offense... But lets just give Peyton a pass, because his all pros are not their to make him be elite??? and Tom Brady... well his production is great-good with anyone that they bring in... Thanks, for letting me vent, and Padre apologize for hijacking this thread...
Seattle and Oakland. Both .500 and we killed the Raiders in Oakland with an outstanding offensive effort. Who was our QB that day? Thanks for playing.
And this is yet another reason why the QB rating system is a complete joke. I LOL every time I see people on this website defend it and say it is accurate... C'mon people! Any system that says throwing the ball straight into the ground on every pass play is better than actually completing passes and gaining yards and accumulating points on the board is moronic...PERIOD! This is just one of many many reasons the QB rating system is nonsense and should not even be caculated. This should end that debate once and for all.
I can't think of many things more pointless than calling a T.O. to review a play. Just throw the challenge flag, if you lose, you'll get the T.O. taken away anyway. You're basically sacrificing a timeout in order to avoid using a challenge, bizarre.
Pfft. Wake me up when posts a QBR of 8.3. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009101811/2009/REG6/bills@jets
Hasselback has more yds and fewer interceptions. Collectively, between Campbell and Gradkowski: 1,400 8 td's 6 int's 1,100 5 Td's 7 int's 2,500 yds 13 and 13 Still better RR, that is
Absolutely, which is partially what makes it so funny to me how can QBR even matter if it can produce a higher rating doing such nonsense?
You get it Aqua, now lil nicky finished 6-10 in 06 with Harrington at Qb, if Sparano manages a 9-7 with a qb that is that bad to me, that is a great job on his part, it is cruel hard to win with a Qb playing that badly every other week.
For the record............IF you are going to keep claiming we have a top 10 defense, you have to realize that MOST teams that are committed to being a running team, will have better D rankings BECAUSE of the O they run. More time of possession, less opportunity for the other teams O to be on the field. It seems to me that while our D is fun to watch, we still cant stop anyone consistently on 3rd and long. It seems to have been like that FOREVER, so Nolan is getting alot of help from the O.
''Speed of motion''...slow...in college, can get away with it...in the pro's..cannot......chad Henne needs an offseason like a fat kid love's cake.
It is pretty funny. "Okay Chad, here's how we are going to improve this week. We're going to throw 25 passes and if you can just throw all of them into the ground, we'll be better than last week!" I am beginning to think he is choking under pressure. When there is no pressure on Henne - as when he played in the Raiders game (b/c he had been benched and went in with nothing to lose) - he performs pretty well. But, then, when there is hope for the team if they play well and he needs to get the job done under pressure - he changes psychologically, feels the pressure, and cannot handle it well. I've said this for years: the fact is, QB in the NFL is vastly more about what's going on between the ears than the arm. Accuracy is big (not completion % but actually throwing the ball in a consistently accurate fashion), but even bigger is the psychological state of a player under pressure. That's why Brady is so great. He is as cool a customer as there is. Henne - and you can hear it in his voice - is just not that confident when he's expected to step up and "be the man." But, there is hope he can change that as other QBs have in their careers (Dilfer, Testaverde, even Orton the past two seasons).
