Guy's..in reflection, are we really going to be that pissed off at our team?. could any other team in this league with their 3rd string QB, really, {and other pivotal injuries}, beat a first place team,a veteran team with and a top 3 defense, on 2 day's of practice ? ..I believe the veteran team has a clear cut advantage in that scenario. Nothin changes in terns of proper ascension, if Henne comes back and gets better in his last 6 games, and show's us a spark with a lesson learned, we get rid of the coordinator in the offseason, have an excellent free agency and draft, {for mostly the offense}, get Odrick and Merling healthy.. I know we got a lot of work to do, but in reflection, and using all of our knowledge of this game from a GM perspective, is a three year plan really how were gonna judge this team?, not sure that's fair from 1 and 15.. Lets cheer up man, study our team the rest of the year, figure out some tough decision's personnell wise, and watch how they respond the rest of the year if Henne can get back in there.
I agree, we're not a terrible team and that loss is not indicative of anything other than injuries and unfortunate events. The only real depressing part of that bears game was Thigpen. I wasn't necessarily a fan of his before hand but i was rooting for him to prove me wrong. I wasn't expecting 300 yds and 3 tds, but his inability to even get us into field goal range once was down right shocking.
It wasn't so much the loss as how they played. I expected more from a former starting QB. The D had issues and is getting a pass because of the O's ineptitude. You'll hear the argument that the D was tired but they gave up far to many passing 3rd downs to get a pass.
i was more disappointed in the offensive line. if there is valid criticism about this coaching staff and front office its why they let our offensive line fall apart this year particularly in the run blocking phase. if we miss the playoffs (almost certain) the culprit will be an offensive line that couldnt run block other than two games
Well Deej, I am probably one of the few who thought Thigpen played okay, I do think it is a valid criticism that Thigpen held onto the ball to long trying to make a play downfield. Could be the Defense did miss Chris Clemons and that is why they converted so many first downs. I also think Sparano has had 10 days to get the Oline straightened out, Mike B reported nothing is close with Levi Jones, he had no real information about Tony Ugoh, which is curious, but if Sparano feels Feinga, Murtha and McQuistan can get the job done then it is on him if they cannot and that is why this 6 game stretch to end the season will tell us a lot about Sparano's tenure in Miami. That is why my motto for the last 7 games is "All Hands on Deck", the Ireland/Sparano regime is predicated on Player Development and Coaching players up, well now is the time for it to show up out on the field.
It seems that some fans are willing to give the Dolphins a pass because of injuries and the fact the team was playing their third team QB. While this would make sense if the Dolphins had won games against other quality teams this year when they did not have all these injuries. The fact is that that in games against other top tier teams. The Dolphins have lost the games and have not played much better then they did against the Bears. Whether they have injuries or not. The Dolphins have shown throughout this entire season that they are merely a mediocre team that will struggle to end the season at 8-8. A 1-4 home record tells us all we need to know about this team.
Can't wait for Henne to be back against the Raiders! Bumps and bruises should heal over the ten days off we can hope for the O-line
Problem is that Henne will still be in the hands of Sparano and company to develop....... and they've shown how they develop QB's..... into baseball players
Oh, okay. -"The fact is that in games against other top tier teams" Hmm, well, we were robbed by the Refs in the Steelers game, the Special Teams blew the Patriots game (that one does go on the staff) and when Henne had a terrible day vs the Ravens, and was benched, the sceeching reached a fevered pitch. -"It would seem that fans are willing to give..injuries.." Remove your #1 and #2 Qb and your franchise tackle, as well as your center, and then wonder what will happen. Take away Sanchez, Brunnel, Mangold and Feguson from the Jets for a game and let's see how they would do vs say..the Giants. "-the 1-4 home record tells us all we need to know.." It tells me that one cannot count to 10? we are 5-5, not 1-4, if you are going to point out the bad be sure to point out the good as well won't you? The Jets were 4-6 at this time last season stuck together and made the playoffs, something to think about..probably not, but still.
They didn't have to win but their performance was a joke. Let's stop trying to pretend it wasn't. The Oline was terrible. Sparano should have a deeper Oline than what he has. He turns over the Oline roster like he's playing fantasy football. You saw the results of that on Thursday. After what happened last season one has to wonder why we suffer so many injuries. I'm tired of all of this, "Well if these guys had suffered injuries to all of these players they'd be struggling too." They're not. Last year they didn't and they're not this year. Why is that? Is Sparano working them too hard during the week? Maybe he needs to take a look into the mirror and consider that possibility. Maybe he needs to look at how his main competition is consistently keeping more players healthy.
Jake Long blows out a shoulder and it is on Sparano? Please, that is mere frustration speaking, this is one of the problems of Sparano's team having the habit of losing games with a lot of days in between them, days and days and days of *****ing and moaning.
I appreciate the fact that you continue to believe in this team. But I just have not seen anything from this team the entire season which would lead me to believe they are anything more then a mediocre team. Perhaps that is why they are 5-5 right now. Yes they had a lot of injuries before last game. Of course when they played the Packers. Many of the Packers best defensive players were out. Beating the Vikings was no big deal as we all can see by the Vikings record now. The Bills have won only one game this entire season. The Bengals are also playing terrible football. So the only win that even appears decent is the win over the Titans. Of course Vince Young didn't start the game because of an injury and Collins couldn't pass the ball very accurately because of an injury to his throwing hand. Perhaps the Dolphins should have won the Steelers game. The fact is though that all Miami needed was a field goal at the end of the game. The offense had plenty of time to move the ball into field goal range. Instead Henne acted as if he had no idea how to run a two minute drill. So blame the ref's for that loss if you want to. I blame Henne and the offense. This year the Dolphins have their five wins against teams who are 17-28. While they have lost 5 games to teams who are 33-13. So all this shows is that the Dolphins can play with the teams who have injuries to key players or teams who are near the bottom of the league in the standings. When it comes to playing and beating the better teams. They are 0-5. All this shows is that when all is said and done. The Dolphins are an average at best team with no real chance of making the playoffs this season.
DJ, IIRC, Thigpen is not a 3rd String QB, he was in our roster because of the talent in front of him... but he has started a round a dozen games in his short career... IIRC, Henne was our 3rd string QB, when we started the season last year, with White as our backup... so in essense, you can say, how could we beaten the Titans last year with our 3rd String QB starting??? Was that the reason we did not win in Tenesse last year also??? Thiggy has talent and skills for the position, as well as Henne, but does that make them starter material??? Thiggy was really never groomed to be a starter in KC, but was given the job to injuries, and performed well enough to win games there, but as we all know there are 53 players on the roster and they all have to perform well to win games... Henne was groomed for a year to start, and we could go on and on stats wise as well as win and loss records for good QBs that have played the game, but that is what stats guys do, don't they??? The issues with the OL this year is the reason as to why our O is not scoring points this year... we have had 2nd and 3rd string players starting for us this year on the OL for the majority of the games!!! Yes we had them also last year, but the talent level then was better then this year... Gardner and Berger were back ups, and now they have been hurt this year (Gardner since the 1st game), so you can say that we have missed a true starting center this year... should I go on??? There are reasons as to why this team went 4-2 with Henne as a starter in the first half last year and then went 3-3 (not including Pit)... and the D gets the majority of the blame, but there were other issues... So again another 3rd String QB goes in with a patch up OL and the team's performance shows a loss...
Any team? Hmm, the Browns have been doing pretty well with their third stringer so far. Hell, the Panthers have put up some points on the Ravens D despite having a guy who has thrown like 5 NFL snaps. Thigpen is a former starter who put up good numbers. We expected more from him and he disappointed. Is he the sole reason for the loss? No, but our offense **** the bed in a massive way, there are no excuses for being shut out at home with a season on the line. Hopefully we can rebound.
I'm not superstituous so I don't think bad luck is the sole reason important players have constantly been going down the past two seasons. We're not talking about one or two incidents. How do we know they're not worked too hard at practices? '*****ing and moaning' huh? Disagree if you want but screw off with the condescending comments.
The problem wasn't the fact that no 3rd stringer would have won that game, the problem was the expectation of Thigpen having more potential than a 3rd stringer. He sucked horribly! Just drop him from the roster, Ramsey or no one else could do any worse. If Henne is gone, so is our season. The only hope we have is Henne being able to play!
