You, and most people here, know that I'm a big supporter of Henne being the starting QB. I absolutely believe that he is the best QB on our roster. I believe he is the future at QB for us. However, if Henne were playing tonight he may have been sacked a record number of times carted off in an ambulance. I seriously doubt that if P. Manning himself played for us tonight that he could have done much better than Thigpen. Once again, the injuries cost us this game.
all i know is all offseason the guys on the ticket were saying we were better than the jets and yet even when they play poorly they find a way to win, and we seem to find new ways to lose. we were 2-0 when they came to our house and we havent been right since and its not injuries other teams have them amd dony make excuses, we're just not mentally tough
not a chance unless he trades for brady. the guy had a team coming off a 18-1 season, lost tom brady and missed the playoffs. granted they were 11-5 but with a super bowl team he couldnt even make the playoffs. thats how important the qb position is and our qb is a 2nd year starter who is still learning the game. until he matures as a qb we will not achieve our potential.
I disagree. We have the best LT in the game. We have a good receiving corps. We have two RBs who would at least be serviceable if they ever had any carries. We have an elite pass rusher who opposing offenses fear and game plan for. Actually our entire D line is pretty good. We have a good punter, a pretty dang good kicker, and our secondary is at least serviceable. We have Dansby who has played pretty dang well for the most part. Our DBs aren't perfect but you could do worse. Who are the Jets winning with? Is their LB corps better than ours? No. Their WR corps? A little faster with Holmes but we have just as much talent. Their QB? He's as inexperienced as our starter. Their offensive line? Depends on which spot I guess. I'll give them secondary. Our Dline is probably better. But they can contend but we just don't have enough talent. Don't get me started on New England who win games with rookie tight ends and danny woodhead sometimes. It's the coaching.
well, if manning were playing for us, he would audible out of henning's ridiculous calls to at least give us a chance. henning really needs to go. like a year ago.
Definitely a chance. He should have made the playoffs in 08. Just got unlucky with a tiebreaker. With a guy who had never played QB before. Who everybody thought sucked. It's not just Brady. No way he doens't make the postseason with our roster. If it makes you feel better to think that there isn't enough talent go right ahead. We could do things to help Henne along.
I was pissed at him too. However, I think the toss to Cutler was really just playing around and in no way deserved a flag. Are you suggesting that he didn't pull his hammy?
One game. Let's pretend they haven't wet themselves everytime they go on primetime. What was their excuse the previous times? Let's use another example. Is the Bears roster really that much better? They're 7-3 now.
Then it's a depth issue. This also happened last season. Why does our team continue to suffer all of those key injuries that other teams aren't dealing with as much?
2nd string qb on an offesne that broke record after record in 2007. you comparing our othewr ten players to their ten players? we dont compare. howver you look at it. just losing one qb cost them 5 games in the regular season year to year. imagine if they lost casseell too. how many more games woyuld that have cost them
if there is a question that's legitimate its why did we turnover our oline as much as we did. that one i have no answer for. i have my suspicions as to why but its never been explained adequately imo. i agree that its a valid . that turnover destroyed our run gm
Injuries are a valid criticism. Depth is not. Not many teams can be on their 3rd center/ 3rd qb and win. I'm sorry thats asking a lot.
You do realize that the Patriots haven't won a Super Bowl in 6 yrs, right? Ever since Weis left. So, was Wies the genius behind the current? No, BB is a great coach. There is no one better at creating a defensive scheme. However, the Pats are competitive because they had a great defense at the beginning of this decade, won the Super Bowl and after that players WANTED to play for them. Players took less money to play for them. It's not the coaching (maybe Henning). It's the injuries and inexperience more than anything else.
The Defense is young and played fine. Gave up yardage but not a lot of points. They were on the field all day. Once again we run the ball 13 times 6 with the QB..... Ronnie on the sideline Clown shoes bro... Henning is once again rendered clueless Winnable game.
shows what you know, just like you kept saying we didnt need a qb that Henne was the answer, seems like you were right there,,,,oh wait......... maybe we should trade the clueless Marshall and draft Andrew Luck and stop listening to you about qbs I seem to remember you thought Beck would be a star too
well yeah, henne was a 2nd srtinger for a reason...he was a rookie and when he was benched it was becaiuse he wasnt progressing fast enough for this coaching staff. how many years has thigpen been a 3rdd stringer. has he progressed at all from his kansas city days?. anything in his game that you can point to that has improved? i dont blame thigpen for today. he played to the best of his abilities behind a mash uniot of an offensive line but its unfair to the team and thigpen to expect more out of him than his talent allows
It was just bad, maybe a good thing Henne missed it as they could not block anyone..at all... Toss in a knee brace for Henne and low snaps from Rotten Richie and it would have been doubly ugly. "Oh no..we suck again!"
agree that the defense played alright considering the injuries they had to deal with but they gave up alot of long drives. the onous was on the defense to get three and outs and we simply didnt have the talent to do that. we need one more playmaker on defense. either another sack artist to go opposite wake or a defensive back who can catch the ball
youre absolutely right, We need to stop dickin around with 2nd rounders and other teams castoffs and get a real Quarterback. even if you have to trade up, whats picks arent worth trading when you have a solid leader for 15 years like Marino was
henning was Parcells buddy right? why didnt he leave with him.....Nolan is good, henning is just senile
The D doesn't make plays when it has to, maybe youth, maybe not, but they lack that sort of urgency to turn a tipped pass into a interception if you know what I mean?
the turnovers are frustrating no doubt. the opportunities are there but we let them slip through our fingers...literally
its more though adam look at all their injuries. the colts have more players out then we do and that manning still finds a way to win...... if we had him we'd be 10-0 we need a real leader at QB
I would hope you would know better than to put the night on that young defense Pod. Not giving you grief really .... we forced field goals. The offensive game plan strayed
well i mean getting a QB of peyton's ability is a 3% likelihood since he is the best QB in the gm. even if you expand your criteria to difference makers there are only about 8 of them out of 32 teams so you're still looking at a 25% chance of landing one. i think if henne improves on some of his deficiencies this offseason he will be good enough next year to win with in the playoffs if the rest of the team stays healthy and adds a couple of playmakers
we have a great defense, Wake is a stud, so is Karlos, maybe our secondary could use a set of hands like you say but our offense needs a leader at QB
yeah but we dont have a peyton manning and to demand one is unrealistic. those are once in a lifetime opportunities. a better example would be eli manning who was good enough to win a super bowl with. how much would he have helped this team this year unless you feel that matt ryan was the choice over jake long which i would agree with but even i feel its too early to determine yet. neither chad henne nor matt ryan have achieved their plateau yet and until they do we cant determine which would have been the better choice
henne has a great arm but a ten cent head, too many mistakes and INTs, Even Sanchez who has no ****in arm has cut down on the INT's until Henne makes better decisions we are screwed
