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All right, Henne Haters...

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  1. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    The word coming out before parcell left was he was not happy with the progression of chad henne.Every place parcell left he left the owner with a playoff team.He left a sinking ship because he new he had no qb.
     
  2. NJFINSFAN1

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Again, go back and look at Phil Simms, he killed him his first few years, even pulled him for Scott Brunner of all people, its what Parcells does.

    Its not a shock or a reason he left, he gets itchy and can't stay in one place long, that's it.
     
  3. Miguel

    Miguel The smartest Man on earth

    Let me clear something up. Im NOT a henne¨Hater¨I want the guy to suceed I really do i want him to be Our starter and Our Star. If that werent the case i would HAVE NEVER BOUGHT his jersey. I want him to be a leader and be the Next Marino or half *** marino But he has Not showed ME that. He is very inconsistent and when he does show up he shows signs of a Regular-Mediocre QB can someone tell me the last time he thre 3Tds and no picks.

    Or 3Tds and one Pick for that matter?
     
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  4. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Im not back on Hennes bandwagon until he shows me a Marino like desire to tear an opposing defense apart. Right now he looks, acts, and sounds like a Sparano/Henning brainwashed parrot.

    Pull up your skirt already.
     
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  5. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    This is really hard to figure out.

    You’ve got a kid who can throw the ball over 70 yards with ease yet he only has 6 attempts that have traveled in the air over 31 yards through 8 games.

    During the two games I saw in person, I can only remember Hartline breaking the 40 yard barrier once. When I looked back, the pass was already in the air to Bess.

    Now Ed Reed comes out and says that he knows Henne is going to run the play that is called, no matter what.

    Is it the coaching or is it the QB?


    Chad Henne Profile - Miami Dolphins - ESPN

    Edit: Not sure why that is showing as a video. The header is just my reference..
     
  6. jw3102

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    Henne certainly did not lose the game all by himself. The defense was awful and special teams continue to make error after error. On offense. It appears Ricky Williams is starting to play like an over 30 year old running back. Ronnie looked good early in the game but the Dolphins abandoned the running game after their TD. That I blame on the OC, Henning. The major problem with Henne is it does not appear that the players or the coaches have a great deal of confidence in him. Yesterday, the one thing that upset me more then anything else he did was his behavior after his terrible pass at the end of the second quarter. Fasano was wide open in the endzone and Henne waffled a pass over his head. When he went back to the bench after the Dolphins had to settle for a FG. CBS cameras showed him on the bench laughing about the pass. Somehow I just can't see Manning, Brees, Brady, or any of the other top QB's going back to the bench and laughing about missing a wide open receiver in the endzone. Especially after throwing such a terrible pass. I never thought Henne was a very good QB when he played at Michigan. He never seemed to show up in the big games. He has continued his unsatisfactory play against quality teams and now he thinks its funny. As a Dolphins fan. I see nothing funny about missing a receiver who is wide open in the endzone. Henne does not seem to be improving and it would not surprise me if a year down the road. Henne is just another backup QB in the NFL.
     
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  7. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    I have puzzled over this very same question all year long. Henne has the talent to do anything and everything that they ask him to do, but it is starting to look like he is the wrong QB for this type of offense that we will not deviate from.

    Sporano said it himself in his post game presser. "the best chance for us to win is for us to run the ball" I don't see Henne throwing 70 yards in that equation. Zip the monkey can hand the ball off and throw 10 yards on occasion, so why is Henne wasting his talent in Miami's blundering 10 yard mentality offense? This offensive philosophy sucks and it doesn't match the main players talent. It's almost as if they had the framework of an offense in mind an then just threw people at it assuming it would work without looking at their individual strong suits.

    The secret to winning is not the talent, its how you use the talent, and in that respect the coaching staff is failing miserably. For that matter someone, somewhere must really be asking themselves why on gods green earth we spent all that money to get Marshall here when, in this offense, Bess is more productive and a hell of a lot cheaper. I am thoroughly and completely stumped as to what this coaching staff is trying to achieve. It almost looks like Tunas pupils can't run the show without him. I am completely baffled by the offense and what they are doing (or rather, not doing) with it.

    I think it's time to get out the broom and sweep some coaches out the door. This is becoming a repeating embarrassment. For the offense they are trying to run, Thigpen would be a better candidate. Henne will not flourish in this type of scheme.
     
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  8. ToddsPhins

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    I share your pain CJ. :knucks:
     
  9. jimhurt

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    You asked for it so here it is!

    Pennington is better than Henny because
    1. speed and accuracy of decision making
    2. accuracy of his passes
    3. one need only look at how the Fins were playing b4 his injury to see heis the better leader.

    Henne sucks because
    1. his release time is herendous
    2. He can not identify a defense and tell pre snap who will be the most likely receiver to be open 1st
    3. He can not progress efficiently through his receivers and cannot judge who will be open and when so does not throw until someone is open allowing the defense to close and cover.
    4. His timing and judgement of distance is terrible he either throws behind receiver making them stop or slow down, or he throws way to high leading to picks and exposure of receiver to huge hits just as they catch the ball.
    5. He could never win the big one at Michigan and he can't do it in Miami.
    6. The obvious HE IS IN NO WAY EVEN CLOSE TO A MARINO AND NO AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE WILL EVER GET HIM THERE, He isn't even a answered prayer away from being as good as Pennington let alone Marino!

    As far as the Carousel is concerend drafting a franchise QB would be a very wise decision and there are a few coming available this year Newton or Pryor just to name a few they have the arm the timing and the ability to let their legs do the work when not open and they are tough enough to take a few hits if they have to.
    We'd be blessed by the Lord himself to get anything for Henne in a trade.

    Thigpen is not a QB that I favor either he is just another mistake on the part of the coaching staff, you should never spend valuable practice time trying to develop the tremendously under developed to begin with.

    Pat white is also terrible he is not and never will develop into a NFL QB. Some of the mistakes should be placed squarely on the shoulders of the offensive coordinator as the decisions made in the red zone this year have been shameful.

    Example: 1st and goal inside the ten yard line, 2 of the best running backs in the NFL (Ronnie and Rickie) and the best 3rd and short and 4th and short back in the NFL (Mr Polite) and what do they do throw the ball from the hands of a terrible QB 3 times then kick a field goal.

    What happened to the Team who used to smash you in the face with Larry Csonka, or go around the end with Mercury Morris, let's not even mention the great running plays that came in this part of the field from Mr. keith Byars.

    There is a lesson to be learned from history and that is football is a tough game played by tough men, we have incredible receivers and need to use them when it is not predictable, Miami must establish the toughness of their skin and their desire to dominate the line of scrimmage before the pass will work without a QB like Marino, and it is very doubtful that any team will see his equal for many years to come

    When it comes to release time their is nobody out their even close, and there are only a select few with the ability to read defenses like he did( Manning for 1 / Tom Brady 2 ).

    Thats it there is nobody else even close.

    Henne is capable of very short to intermediate passes and thats it anything else he throws goes into the air on a wing and a prayer, he has arm strength but no judgement of distance, no timing and absolutely no accuracy beyond 15 yards.

    And there you have my opinion, feel free to reply I'm always interested in a difference of opinion that can be proven!



     
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  10. Ophinerated

    Ophinerated Preposterous!

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    I was going to edit this to make it "readable", but after waking up, after being knocked out by the huge wall of text; I was slammed in the face by the red, squiggly lines of death.

    You might want to break this up into something a bit more readable.

    EDIT: Just noticed you're new here. Welcome to the site. There is a preview post button that allows you to see what your post will look like before you post it. If you're copying your post from another site, or from a word processor, you should use the preview post button. The chances are high that the formatting won't carry over.
     
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  11. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Let’s be honest here, guys.

    Henne’s hated because there’s no way he could ever get a song this awesome dedicated to and describing his achievements in Miami.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9ThMGXevvM
     
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  12. jimhurt

    jimhurt New Member

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    Problem is Henne wouldn't flourish in any NFL scheme, he can't do the job for which he was hired, he couldn't do it at Michigan in college and he will never be any good in the NFL he does not have the talent it takes to make it in the big leagues. Can't run with the big dogs, he should go back to the porch with the Pups!
     
  13. adamprez2003

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    Pennington is better than Henny because
    1. speed and accuracy of decision making
    2. accuracy of his passes
    3. one need only look at how the Fins were playing b4 his injury to see heis the better leader.

    Henne sucks because
    1. his release time is herendous
    2. He can not identify a defense and tell pre snap who will be the most likely receiver to be open 1st
    3. He can not progress efficiently through his receivers and cannot judge who will be open and when so does not throw until someone is open allowing the defense to close and cover.
    4. His timing and judgement of distance is terrible he either throws behind receiver making them stop or slow down, or he throws way to high leading to picks and exposure of receiver to huge hits just as they catch the ball.
    5. He could never win the big one at Michigan and he can't do it in Miami.
    6. The obvious HE IS IN NO WAY EVEN CLOSE TO A MARINO AND NO AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE WILL EVER GET HIM THERE, He isn't even a answered prayer away from being as good as Pennington let alone Marino!

    As far as the Carousel is concerend drafting a franchise QB would be a very wise decision and there are a few coming available this year Newton or Pryor just to name a few they have the arm the timing and the ability to let their legs do the work when not open and they are tough enough to take a few hits if they have to.
    We'd be blessed by the Lord himself to get anything for Henne in a trade.

    Thigpen is not a QB that I favor either he is just another mistake on the part of the coaching staff, you should never spend valuable practice time trying to develop the tremendously under developed to begin with.

    Pat white is also terrible he is not and never will develop into a NFL QB. Some of the mistakes should be placed squarely on the shoulders of the offensive coordinator as the decisions made in the red zone this year have been shameful.

    Example: 1st and goal inside the ten yard line, 2 of the best running backs in the NFL (Ronnie and Rickie) and the best 3rd and short and 4th and short back in the NFL (Mr Polite) and what do they do throw the ball from the hands of a terrible QB 3 times then kick a field goal.

    What happened to the Team who used to smash you in the face with Larry Csonka, or go around the end with Mercury Morris, let's not even mention the great running plays that came in this part of the field from Mr. keith Byars.

    There is a lesson to be learned from history and that is football is a tough game played by tough men, we have incredible receivers and need to use them when it is not predictable, Miami must establish the toughness of their skin and their desire to dominate the line of scrimmage before the pass will work without a QB like Marino, and it is very doubtful that any team will see his equal for many years to come

    When it comes to release time their is nobody out their even close, and there are only a select few with the ability to read defenses like he did( Manning for 1 / Tom Brady 2 ).

    Thats it there is nobody else even close.

    Henne is capable of very short to intermediate passes and thats it anything else he throws goes into the air on a wing and a prayer, he has arm strength but no judgement of distance, no timing and absolutely no accuracy beyond 15 yards.

    And there you have my opinion, feel free to reply I'm always interested in a difference of opinion that can be proven![/QUOTE]
     
  15. ToddsPhins

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    Fine, I'll say it. You've gotta be an Ohio State fan. :up:
     
  16. ToddsPhins

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    Newton & Pryor are definitely ready to take over QB here in a pro style system..... 5 years from now...... if ever.
     
  17. ToddsPhins

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    Dude, did u just quote yourself?! :pity: or just familiarizing yourself with the buttons?
     
  18. jimhurt

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    I'm a fan of the Miami Dolphins and I follow all college games the best I can, the only QB's I've seen with the attitude and abilities I would want for my team are Newton and Pryor.

    I would gladly take either one, although I would prefer Cam Newton I think he is the superior athlete and the more accurate passer which his statistics show pretty clearly.

    When he throws the ball it is almost always completed and very accurate, only problem with him is he throws off balance at times near the sidelines late and I'm not real fond of that.

    Get the yards you can and go out of bounds. Don't throw into tight coverage when you aren't set properly. This leads to innacuracy and pic 6's.

    I do think the Buckeyes are the best one loss team this year, I watched the Wisconson game and saw it get out of hand due to early mistakes very quickly, I think if they played 5 more times back to back Ohio State would take all 5.

    I am not impressed with Wisconson at all lets face it Michigan State handed it to them throughout the entire game.

    Iowa took care of Michigan State pretty well, i think Wisconson will lose another game this year and I think it will be to Michigan, they have a good offense if they can play good defense for a few of Wisconsons drives they will beat the Badgers.

    Iowa well they play Ohio State who has to prove they deserve to be in the top 5 in the country for sure and I don't think iowa has anything for them.

    Penn State might have a chance against Michigan State they usually do when they play them at home. But we shall see, my personal opinion is the Big Ten is the most competitve conference each year followed very closely by the SEC they have a few chump teams but for the most part some good football teams but can't say that for the rest of their sports.

    I am originally a floridian and attended my first game Buffalo vs miami with my uncle at age 7 being born in 1965 that was the undefeated season so I was baptized but perfection and have never waivered in my love of the Dolphins and their great history, and I am exceedingly exhausted with the losses and poor coaching. Honestly I wish I could bring back Marino's youth with him and the talent we have today the Fins would be unstoppable.
     
  19. jimhurt

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    yep I'm new here so you'll ahve to bear with me
     
  20. Buckeyetroop

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    I am a lifelong Buckeye fan and all I have to say is Pryor is not in Newtons league at all. And the Big 10 isn't close to the SEC in talent or competitiveness. Believe me, I hate to admit all that. I keep waiting for Pryor to prove me wrong. He had a nice Rose Bowl though.
     
  21. djphinfan

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    welcome man:up:
     
  22. ToddsPhins

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    Which part of Newton's attitude?..... The theft?.... or the academic cheating? :shifty:
     
  23. Hexonx

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    I don't hate Henne, I don't think a lot of it is his fault, I think Henning puts him in bad spots constantly. Henning is the problem and as long as Henning is the OC we will never see what Henne can be.

    Please just for one game let David Lee call the plays, I would love to see the results.
     
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  24. Speedy

    Speedy Dolfan forever! :-)

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    Welcome! :)

    I'd love to have Pryor on the Fins! But Newton is really good, too.
    But for now, it's still Chad Henne and I hope he'll do well!:up:
     
  25. Big E

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    Well I know who I am dropping from my fantasy team.
     
  26. the 23rd

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