as long as this offense is being called on to not lose games rather than going out there to win games it doesn't matter. That is the biggest issue to me. A defensive minded head coach not willing to take the handcuffs off of the OC's play calling is killing us. Everybody takes some blame in this one.
No it is not Henne's fault Hartline tripped. Henne certainly was not at fault for the play of Davis today. While Henne was not at fault for the Carpenter FG miss. He was certainly at fault for no being able to get the team closer for a FG attempt. No Henne was not at fault for Sean Smith not getting the interception. Since Henne did not play on defense. He was not responsible for the number of big plays the defense gave up. Yet if he had made more plays on offense when the Dolphins had the ball. Perhaps the defense would not have been on the field so often to give up all those big plays. On the play to Marshall. The ball was overthown and Marshall had no chance of catching it. Henne has no lateral movement in the pocket. The Dolphins sacked the Ravens QB four times today. Yet he was still able to lead his team to victory. While Henne can not be blamed solely for the loss. The fact is that with him at QB. The Dolphins are the worst scoring offense in the entire league. Averaing just over one TD a game. I would say that of all the quarterbacks in the league who have been drafted in the last three years and are starting for their teams today. Henne has to be rated the least productive QB in this group. If you like Henne and want him as your QB. You can have him. As for me. I hope the Dolphins use their first pick in the draft this off season to upgrade the QB position.
I'll never understand the "if Henne had played better it wouldn't matter that X player did X". We expect Henne to be perfect and give a free pass to everyone else. It is ridiculous logic and impossible to even have a discussion like that.
It's impossible to have logical arguments/discussions with "haters" they only see things one way and fail to look at any other variable
Int #1: Hartline fell down after Henne had already thrown the ball. Int #2: Ball was thrown high but was still a catchable ball for Marshall Int #3: I didn't see it. I walked away from the TV by that point. Are you just going to throw stats out or maybe back some of them up with what really happened? My biggest problem with Henne is that he still hasn't developed any touch. This is apparent on the missed pass to Fasano in the end zone. He is starting to remind me of Doug Williams when he was in Tampa. Cannon arm, but no touch whatsoever. It took him a lot of years to finally develop it.
hartline falls...int marshall went lazy..int Did you guys see the replay of the 3rd INT? Yes, if he throws it outside it's probably complete. However, watch how the DBs play ALL the receivers on that play. Usually on stop routes you will see the DB take one or two steps back because he's running with the WR, but ALL the DBs stopped at the same step the WR's did... The predictable nature of the offense really limits what we can do.
On the other side, why is Henne free from all criticism just because other's didn't do their job as well? Let's be fair here...
Int Numba 3. Thrown Perfectly To ed reed. Number 2 WTF he threw it to the outside Marshall Wasnt going going to catch that if he wanted too. Are you saying ALL of hennes Picks Arent Because of Henne??? He has made MANY dumb choices Witht the football He dropped it twice today!! Im Starting to fear Marshall Will get fed up with Henne and Just Not try anymore Kinda Like TO
But its every game he does this, and it was at a CRITICAL time. They score there and they have the lead 14-13 and go into halftime with opitimisim. Instead you settle for a field goal, and your not happy at halftime and your mindset is vastly different.
well..neither has Henne Henne certainly gets to shoulder some of the blame....but damn..the defense was awful...another HUGE special teams blunder... This was a team loss in every aspect of the game... Also, why did we just totally abandon the run after a wildly successful 1st drive with it?
I disagree on int #2. It was high but Marshall short armed it and it hit him in the hands. 90% of the time Marshall will make that catch. Why would I say that all of his picks arent because of him? Thats just as stupid as the guys who say that everything is his fault. I like Henne but he is not without fault. He still has no touch as I said in another thread. And unfortunately I noticed him lock on to a reciever too many times today. If you could take Pennington's brain and put it in Henne's head you would have the perfect QB.
ummmmmmm yes he has If you had watched the game you would have seen/Heard the announcers say it and Have the stats On the screen after the first INT.. I agree defense was Horrible. and special teams I ignore Now But henne Is suppose to be the franchise QB and he has not been so far. Hes been inconsistent One week he Looks Like the Montana the next week Hes jay feeley
I see how it is If your not sucking Hennes **** then your wrong and get On ignore list Even if you dont say anything Insulting or tell people to ¨STFU¨cool. Nice
Dont think for a second Im gonna Blame Henne for EVERYTHING he has had some good games this season Henning needs to be fired Now. Why the **** would you stop running after ronnie got three first downs In One DRIVE?!?!?!!?!??!?!!?!?
Fiedler showed Balls and guess what? He blows, just like Thiggy. The ball bounced off Marshall's hands, that is HIS fault.
Tell us then, when was his last game without a pick ? Buffalo ? I think he threw one even in that game.
Re read the thread. One person in particular acted like a dick I don't have a problem with anyone else other than him and one other person, who thinks its appropriate to call me 'son.' All the rest, I have no problem with.
I agree - but saying, "If Henne had scored there it wouldn't matter that the defense gave up a touchdown." is a ridiculous argument. Saying Henne needs to score more is fair.
I am having a tough time telling if Henne's mistakes are due to inexperience or if thats the way he will always play. We won in spite of Fiedler, dont delude yourself into thinking otherwise.
I was at the game, midfield upperdeck. Defenses are giving us nothing downfield. It's all cover 2. Henne looks downfield all the time, but it's just not there. By the way, 3rd and goal from the 1, was that ball tipped at the LOS? It sure looked like it.
OK, I can understand that maybe Henne gets a lot of the bashing. Ted Ginn and Jason Allen are replaceable and not going to lose the game. Chad Henne is supposed to be the field general out there. He plays more like a robot! He looks like a mouse trying to find a hole when he runs, he takes way TOO LONG to throw the ball, often by the time he gets around to that the recievers are draped with coverage or running out of bounds. How come he can't shotgun? By the time his royal slowness gets back to pass the defense are in the process of running him over. He's no leader, hell he couldn't get the job done against APPY STATE in college...You ASK WHY THE HENNE HATERS? So what if he's the best QB on the roster, you can't be satisfied with that as a fan! We need a QB that will give 110% on the field...Yea he's better than Pennington and Thigpen...so what...Does that make me feel better? BIG PHAT NO!!!!! Look, Chad Henne is still in college speed, he is the biggest disappointment on the team right now, if you don't believe that, then go on with your fan club of the guy, I don't care. He's had plenty of time to get better, but if anything, he looks worse than last season. If he would stop being a sitting duck back there and make a decision, maybe things would change. I can live with a few bad passes here and there, but the slowness and terrible running are inexcuseable, he makes it easier to cover our recievers by standing in the pocket too long. We have NO answer at QB right now, we haven't had a decent QB since Marino, and you can blame that sorry Saban for letting Brees get away......what a sorry game Henne "day now" had in Baltimore today. Think that was bad, the Titans will be all over him next week, he won't have time sit and bounce up and down in the pocket, it will be lights out.
I'm not a Henne hater but my god are some of you even watching the games. Even on the first pick, if Hartline doesn't fall there's a good chance it gets picked. Either way it should've never been thrown. Marshall didn't make a great effort but it was terribly overthrown. Then of course the last one. And the knuckle ball to Fasano? And then he goes to the sideline and thinks its funny. His "deer in the headlights" look is getting old.
2500+ passing yards With 18 TDs and only 11 picks Sucks?????? wow.. Thats Weird. Last I checked he did Better then Henne In his first starting season
No tip, Henne just lobbed it otherwise it would have been tipped/intercepted. Same effect pretty much.
No just an ugly pass. And as far as the toplic I really do not know what to think of Henne. IMHO I feel his problems are a 50/50 split between him and the OC calling crap plays and being way to conservitive.