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What will it take for Dan Henning to be replaced?

Discussion in 'SoapBox - Rants forum' started by CANEPHINS, Oct 31, 2010.

  1. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

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    This guy has killed more drives than any coach in the history of football. It is almost like he is happy to settle for FG's. He calls for deep passes when we should run. He calls for run in obvious passing downs. We get in the red zone and make zero attempts to the endzone. Over the past 3 games we should have had 4-5 more TD's than we have had. However we haven't because of Henning's playcalling.

    Sure...there have been dropped passes and poor execution on plays. But that still doesn't excuse Henning.
     
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  2. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    They put together a drive for the ages, get a defensive stop, and then come out running wildcat plays. I don't get it either. The man must be senile.
     
  3. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    yeah, fasano and hartline dropping critical passes, henne throwing a wtf interception and all that running in the first half setting up the passing in the 2nd is clearly an indication that its henning's fault and not the execution of a young team learning how to win
     
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  4. muscle979

    muscle979 Season Ticket Holder

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    But the wildcat drive late in the game was clearly Henning's fault. There's no denying that. The base offense is rolling and he goes away from it. It makes no sense.

    As much of a headscratcher as that pick was I was just happy to see Henne attacking the defense in this game.
     
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  5. Coral Reefer

    Coral Reefer Premium Member

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    Exactly.

    He pulls the most ridiculous stuff out of his arse at the most puzzling and crucial times.

    His lack of creativity or willingness to change things up to get Marshall sufficient opportunities is inexcusable as well.

    The guy's calls are an anchor.
     
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  6. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Every time we march the Wild Kitty out it fails.

    Time to put it in a time capsule and bury it. Let someone else dig it up years from now when the football world has forgotten.
     
  7. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    yeah like that reverse at the end of the game that if it had failed would have had 90% of dolphins fabns screaming that it was dumb. meanwhile it went for 20 or 30 yds (dont remember and too drunk to look up) and arguably won the gm for us. if cincy only needed a fg at the end of the gm they might have won. henning called a brilliant gm today and too nitpick a call here or there is ridiculous when our qb is throwing a dumb int and our receivers are dropping easy catches. once you accept we dont have a pro bowl personnell on offense you will understand our playcalling
     
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  8. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    actually thought it looked decent on the 2nd play
     
  9. MikeHoncho

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    Might take an act of God.
     
  10. Phinatic425

    Phinatic425 MIA State of Mind

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    It HAS been confirmed.
     
  11. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

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    Just curious....

    How many times were we inside the 30 of Cincy and how many shots did we take to the endzone?

    How about last week?

    He is a drive killer. Sure, there are plays where passes are dropped...but that is the exception and not the rule.
     
  12. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

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    Maybe when you realize that he isn't putting our players in the best position to make plays...then maybe you will have gotten your head out of your arse long enough to see that plays are there to be made if he calls them correctly. Not taking shots at the endzone is killing this team. 1 or 2 TD's a game doesn't cut it. Last week we win going away if we can convert in the red zone. At some point you need to get off your Henning Love Wagon and realize that it isn't always the players. There is plenty of talent on this team and on this O, if Henning uses them correctly.

    If you can't see that....well, I am sorry for you.
     
  13. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

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    btw...

    Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams are Pro Bowl RB's.
    Polite is a Pro Bowl caliber FB
    Jake Long is a Pro Bowl LT
    Brandon Marshall is a Pro Bowl WR
    Bess has become of one the best clutch slot WR's in the league.

    Yeah, I know this isn't the whole offense, but it is the heart of our playmakers outside of QB.

    So to say we don't have Pro Bowl players on offense...well now you are just looking idiotic.
     
  14. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    what i really really dont understand is that henne is proving to be outstanding at the 25 yard sideline touch pass. why arent these plays being run into the endzone?

    as someone else alluded to, it seems like a lot of plays are designed to get exactly the same yards you need instead of going beyond it. it creates razor thin margins

    team speed is hurting a bit though tbh. a faster and more athletic TE makes a lot of those plays fasano fails on...like that one along the sideline, imo. at the very least, they get better separation like the play where the ball was tipped and went through fasano's hands
     
  15. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    ronnie and ricky were pro bowl rbs. they arent any more and too include them is idiotic as you say.
     
  16. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Oh, but there is. At least in terms of assigning the blame. It's kind of funny that people keep blaming the OC and ignore the HC who's not only involved in the gameplan but actually in charge of it. If Sparano doesn't want to see a wildcat, then there's no wildcat. If Sparano wants us to be more aggressive in the redzone and go for TDs rather than FGs, then we do just that.

    Do I like the wildcat drive? No. It was nuts. But there is absolutely no telling whatsoever if it was on Henning to begin with. And even if it was: That's why the HC is wearing a headset, too.
     
  17. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    This is pretty asinine in response to this specific game. They were fairly aggressive in the red zone, and called quite a bit more pass plays than run plays?

    People ***** he's too conservative, and now he's too aggressive?

    Not to mention that you know, that actual call was a good one, and would have been a huge gain if the Tight End caught the pass?


    Why don't you understand that Dan Henning doesn't dictate this? In but very few exceptions, he doesn't call where the ball is thrown. He calls a play, the players run the routes, and a quarterback throws the ball to who he thinks is open.
     
  18. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    Henning apologists, take off your blindfolds please. 5 field goals and one touchdown in back to back games. How many straight drives inside the 20 without a touchdown? Anyone care to tell me? This team does has pro bowl personnel on offense, sorry. You are wrong. I'm sick and tired of people saying "He has done well with what he has to work with." like the offense is all a bunch of scrubs. Wake up.
     
  19. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I realize this is the official livejournal style posting forum and more about feelings than anything you can actually back up, but you wanna do it anyway?

    There was a conservative running play on 3rd and 6, but other than that, I'd really like to see you try and put together an argument that they were turtling in the red zone.
     
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  20. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    I guess 10 field goals and 2 touchdowns in back to back games isn't enough evidence that there is something wrong with Miami's red zone play calling.

    EDIT: Enough with the name calling, follow TOS Please
     
  21. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    No, I'm just someone feeling froggy about using basic cognitive skills to figure out what the actual issue is. Play calling and execution are two separate things.

    But please, go on with the explanation on how the calls yesterday were so conservative?
     
  22. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    Where in that comment did I violate the TOS? Name calling? Really????

    EDIT: Isn't this the "Soap box" forum? Give me a break.
     
  23. PS17

    PS17 NYJ 2010!!!

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    A "Fire Dan Henning" thread? There's a new topic. :pointlol:
     
  24. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    maybe we can trade with you guys. you post your fire shotty threads here and we'll post our fire henning threads there. gotta love fans :lol:
     
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  25. PS17

    PS17 NYJ 2010!!!

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    It's equally as bad on Jets forums. Henning is clearly better though. :lol: At least your offense has rhythm.

    Watching the Jets offense is like watching a slow train wreck. And it's been like that since Duncenheimer has been calling plays since 2006.
     
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  26. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    The meltdown has begun! Sorry. Just End The Season
     
  27. texasPHINSfan

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    In fairness there are plenty of examples of poor play-calling, but i don't make a point to write them all down every game. I distinctly remember yelling at the TV based on a play call more times than I can remember for each of the past several games.

    play-action on 3rd and 10 buried on our own side of the field. 3 straight run plays against the pats when we were down and needing to come back. The run play against the Steelers when we got the ball back. The Wildcat calls on 3rd and 8, 3rd and 6, etc.

    I mean there are literally dozens of really head-scratcher play-calls. Yes, execution lies to blame on many of the results, but that's a denominator that is common across the board and thus can't be used as the identifying reason for the poor decision, IMO. Why is it only the questionable head-scratcher play calls don't get executed properly? And if they do, why are we still calling them? If the Wildcat play is averaging 1.2 yards per play, and we haven't been executing it properly, why would you call it on 3rd and 8?

    If you want we can start keeping track of all the questionable calls, but it would be a maddening exercise. I'm quite surprised that some don't find any issue with the play-calling to be honest.
     
  28. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    There are certainly some questionable playcalls, and overall, it's pretty conservative. But it's nowhere even remotely close to what's being said, and most people complaining don't have an understanding of how an actual NFL offense runs?

    We're seeing **** like people complaining Brandon Marshall doesn't get the ball enough when he's #2 in targets, that we don't throw the ball enough with 34.1 attempts a game, etc. and so on. People starting *****ing with that 3rd and 6th wildcat play, which was an absolutely valid spot to go for a field goal on, and from there it's turned absolutely ******ed. Point in case:

    Vitchy France, or gimmick account? You decide.
     
  29. alen1

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    A better offensive coordinator and play caller, which is pretty difficult to find.
     
  30. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    Excuse me? JETS stands for Just End The Season. Now kindly piss off.
     
  31. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    I could run this offense better than Dan Henning. I have 0 years of coaching experience in the NFL. :pity:
     
  32. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    dude. you wwould be laughed out of the job on your first day. and thats not a dig on you. thats true for all of us
     
  33. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm sorry that you post so many ridiculous, passive-aggressive doom and gloom comments that I can't tell when you aren't doing it in normal posts.
     
  34. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    I speak my mind. Have a problem with it?
     
  35. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I understand you're frustrated but you are not serious, are you? :)
     
  36. Whitedolphin54

    Whitedolphin54 From the land of legends Luxury Box

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    With Henning you get brilliant plays when you dont expect them, and with the straight forward stuff he doesn't always deliver. It is almost like he doesn't believe the personnel are capable of delivering on a straight forward play like when you want to run the ball up the gut to finish a game off. I understand that some of the passing is down to the development of Henne, but those wild cat plays in the last game were just downright stupid IMO.
     
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  37. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    In practice, it seems like it.
     
  38. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    Awesome. I have a problem with people who idolize Dan Henning. Have a nice day.
     
  39. TheMageGandalf

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    The way this team works:

    If we make the playoffs the only way we get another OC is if he retires.

    If we dont make the playoffs he needs to retire OR Ross himself needs to step in and say something.

    Otherwise I dont see a change. Its like the freaking Olivadotti situation back in the day.
     
  40. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Pillage his office.
     

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