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Henne vs Flacco

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Southbeach, Nov 4, 2010.

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  1. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

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    Chances are this match up will decide the outcome of Sunday's game. Both are surrounded by some VG talent. A closer look:

    Henne- 154 for 243, 63.4%, 1669 yards, 6.9 avg per pass, 230 yds per game, 8 Td's, 7 picks, 10 sacks, and a rating of 82.5

    Flacco- 140 for 236, 59.3%, 1651 yards, 7 avg per pass, 226 yds per game, 10 TD's, 6 picks, 10 sacks, and a rating of 84.2

    Hard to imagine any two players being closer in the stat game, age, etc. Flacco has won one more game so far this year.

    Here's one thing where there is a HUGE difference. My brother lives in MD, and tells me 99% of the fans LOVE Flacco.

    Not quite the same for Dolphans. :no:
     
  2. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Because some Dolfans won't be happy until they see Dan Marino back on the field.
     
  3. Destroyer

    Destroyer There for every play.

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    I am happy with Henne being the starter.
     
  4. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Honestly....I think the Dan Marino remark is somewhat accurate. The Ravens have never had a QB of Flacco's quality....

    Every Miami QB will be compared to Marino it seems...not sure why...thats a mighty high benchmark.
     
  5. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Bear in mind that Flacco is markedly better at home than he is on the road. I think that a lot will depend on which team has their running game going, b/c that will make it so much easier for either QB.
     
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  6. ckparrothead

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    HELLLOOO. Elvis Grbac. Duh.
     
  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    If Vinny Testerverde was the best quarterback in Dolphin history, then there would probably be a lot more love for Henne.
     
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  8. padre31

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    Steve McNair had a great season in Baltimore, much like Pennington's one season in Miami.

    Have to go with Henne over Unibrow.
     
  9. Southbeach

    Southbeach Banned

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    Remembering the past is a great thing. I can't tell you how many times I have thought about the laser shots "Dan The Man" threw to the Marks Brothers.

    Living in the past is a different story. "If You Can't Be With The One You Love, LOVE The One You're With." :yes:
     
  10. Southbeach

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    Might have something to do with ALL the fans being behind him. Agree on the running game. I don't see either running wild.
     
  11. padre31

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    See here is where I differ, the last Great Qb to play for the Dolphins was not Dan Marino to me, it was Chad Pennington, that is my prism for viewing Chad Henne.

    Penny with half of the physical skill of Henne could slice and dice and julienne a defense, I'd like to see Henne do the same.
     
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  12. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    This will be an interesting matchup. I believe we can come out on top and Henne play the better game.
     
  13. Southbeach

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    Elvis was not in the house when Tony Banks and Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl in 2000. They out Wood-Strocked us by a game. GODDAMNIT!!!
     
  14. firedan

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    Fans here will always compare Henne and anone else in a Dolphin uniform to 13.
    As stated the Ravens have not had alot of good QBs until Flacco.
    I like Henne and still think he has tremendous upside.
    The fans from Baltimore should appreciate thier QB,he's good and getting better.The fans from Miami need to realize what we have.
     
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  15. Firesole

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    He could? I seem to recall him throwing about 4-5 INTs last time he played the Ravens.
     
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  16. schmolioot

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    You get slot of love when you have 3 playoff wins and an AFC championship appearance your first two years
     
  17. KingofMiami

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    I'm happy with henne ..he's the best qb that we have in our pockets. His mistakes are tolerable because he mostly makes up for it ... Like the last game .
     
  18. padre31

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    And I watched Marino throw 3 int's in a playoff game with a much better team than the one in 08, so what you sayin'?
     
  19. PhinsPhan23

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    Hey all, first time posting here. I'm a regular over at FinHeaven (Username: Qmar), but have been having problems logging in there anywhere but at work.

    In response to Penny being the last great QB for the Dolphins, I'm not exactly sure I would consider Penny to be a "great" QB. He is good and I love him for assisting in the 2008 turnaround, but he's also the same guy that got shoed away from NY and struggled mightily in early 2009. We had a very easy schedule in 2008 (due to the 1-15 2007 season) and Penny took advantage of that. That's great, I applaud him and he will always be loved in Miami, but I just don't think he can be considered "great". I would go as far to say he is and was a good NFL QB in the league and one that can certainly help your team win games. Great QB's are ones that take their team on their back.

    So I agree that Henne will always have to deal with the Marino comparison b/c he truly was the last great QB. Similar to all 49ers QB's being compared to Montana and Young.
     
  20. Firesole

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    4-5 > 3

    Has Pennington EVER carried a team on his back? Nope. I watched Marino LEAD his team to victories, and with him in the backfield were were almost always in the game. The exception is obviously his last game.
     
  21. padre31

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    He finished second in the MVP voting that year, the last Qb to even be in the race since Marino.
     
  22. padre31

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    Do you really think 2008 would have been possible without Chad Pennington at Qb?

    As for 4-5 > 3, do you also write with crayons? :lol:
     
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    welcome aboard :up:
     
  24. Rocky Raccoon

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    But remember, Pennington was what? An 8 year veteran in 2008? Henne has started 20 games.

    I've been saying this since the beginning of the season and I will continue to. For a quarterback who's only started 20 games in this league, Chad Henne has been pretty impressive.
     
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  25. Arodgers12

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    I hope you guys beat Baltimore. I think you can cause your just as physical as they are.
     
  26. Southbeach

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    There was a poster here who said it would take Henne 20 games to be legit or, something close to that. I think it was CK but, not sure. It was while ago.

    I recall posting that, if that was true, we could start 2-6. That did not happen, and Henne is doing well.

    I have to believe that his leash will be extended soon. It may not be vs Balt, or even Tenn, where we "should" have to play close to the vest. These are like mid-season playoff games to see who eventually gets to the playoffs.

    However, it is coming. Of this I am sure.
     
  27. Southbeach

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    When is the last time anyone can say that our Dolphins were a physical football team? The 70's?
     
  28. Southbeach

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    Would you, or anyone, trade Henne for Flacco, right now? I would not.
     
  29. MikeHoncho

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    Thus, the bar is much much higher for Henne. Sadly.
     
  30. MarinePhinFan

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    Please learn how the schedules are made.
     
  31. Southbeach

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    Some players thrive on the challenge. Others are destroyed by it.

    I remember Henne asking the team for film of his every play to review in the off season. He is gonna be as good as he can be. How good that is, is anyone's guess.

    I believe we start with the top half of the NFL, and he goes from there.
     
  32. hugoguzman

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    That's because the Ravens are a playoff team.

    A lot of people get on Henne because he has been to the playoffs (didn't get there last year and might not get there this year).

    I don't think that's fair (Flacco has the better overall supporting cast, or at least he did in 2009) but until Henne gets there (more than once if I had to guess) folks will continue to question his abilities.
     
  33. Southbeach

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    Some did the same with Wake, Langford, Davis, Clemons, Hartline, Smith, etc. Some fans want a perfectly grilled rib eye steak, wih a great lobster tail in the same time it takes for a Big Mac. :pointlol:
     
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  34. Firesole

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    I never said anything to intimate that. With Henne starting, no it wouldn't have happened. But just because Pennington managed the team well in 2008, it doesn't make him a great QB. Its not like Pennington was throwing for 300 yards and 3 TDs every game.

    The wildcat had a lot to do with our success in 08.
     
  35. BlameItOnTheHenne

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    The funny part about it, is that they lost their 2 rotator (or whatever it's called) games (BAL, Houston) that year.
     
  36. Wildcat23

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    I think the biggest reason people dont like Henne is because we have pennington. Its much easier to say we should put in out backup when we are only 4-3 and Henne isny playign like marino and have no way of being wrong :p People love to speculate and be right. But I love Henne, its so hard to believe people forget about how he is easily in the top 2 qbs weve had here in a long time. cant wait for this game!
     
  37. MonstBlitz

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    As long as Henne gets better every year, I'm happy as hell to have him as our starter.
     
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  38. Rocky Raccoon

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    No, absolutely not.

    I like Flacco, but I think Henne will end up being the better quarterback.
     
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  39. finfaninilinois

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    hey could someone tell me when the henne has only started X amount of games excuse ends, is there a number. I wonder if they say that with matt ryan ot matt schaub if not atleast I know it ends somewhere between now and 35 or so.

    look right now Henne is a qb with a good completion percent that can move the ball between the 30's but cant put the ball in the endzone if he gets better great if not then he's average.

    some like him some dont and we will always have these stupid arguments, thats just reality
     
  40. hugoguzman

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    Sorry man. He's right. Schedules are based on the prior season's record, therefore, the Dolphins had the softest schedule on paper.

    Now that said, you still have to play your divisional opponents 6 times as well as one AFC and NFC division.

    Still, Miami did have a fairly soft schedule in 2008. Much softer than what they've seen thus far in 2010.
     

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