Breaking News: Odrick likely to on IR | Breaks Leg Wednesday

I wasn't a fan either but a broken leg has nothing to do with Odrick's talent and whether it will develop in the NFL.

2 completely different issues..

I can't believe anyone is suggesting he's a bust because he broke his leg.
Not you, I know your "bust" post was sarcastic but I've seen more than a few serious comments to that end.

Unbelievable.

 

I was going to say something, but you guys took care of it.

 

The Jets didn't pass on Odrick. He was taken one pick before the Jets pick of Wilson.

 

What I AM worried about is something someone was discussing in another thread.

The fact that Odrick has a plate in his leg from the first time he fractured his fibula in college. He fractures it again and now he may have broken it completely.

This may signify that this fibula never healed correctly from his college injury.
That's all we need is a 1st round draft pick with a recurring injury that never heals.

That's what I worry about now, not that he isn't a talented prospect.

 

hmmm, NFL network reporting that it was an ankle.

damn.

alright, ryan baker...lol...were in serious trouble..yeah, I think I would pick up Grant.

 

Im sorry about the injury guys. I hope your replacement performs just as well.

 

Eh, lifting and conditioning can only do so much to prevent injuries, if you look at who is out, Fergie had a pre existing condition, ditto Will Allen, Jerry was ill, so was Ikaika.

Merling, Edds and Odrick and Sheets were the real losses for us but only Odie was in the mix coming out of training camp, the rest were competing for slots so in that light it is no huge loss out on the field in terms of missing production.

What we could use if for one of the longshots, Rose, Baker, Geathers, to come through.

 

Do not sleep on Ryan Baker Deej..

Really like Humpty Geathers 6'8 300 pds 4.9 40 his arms are freakishly long.

 

Geez...get technical much?

We all know he was the number one pick of the second round because of the Cheatriots...

But, he was still PICK NUMBER THIRTY-TWO...

The last pick of the first round in any given year. It is not that hard to comprehend bro.

Back to Odrick...DAMN GLAD we traded down from number twelve now.

 

LOL! So that's pretty much a no to his development. Got It!

 

Except 2008.

All 1st rd picks can sign 5 year contracts, and the top 16 can sign 6 year deals. 2nd rd picks are limited to 4 year deals.

Guess how long Merling's contract was?

I'm not getting technical, I am being accurate.

 

****.

 

That was me, and if it's a break near the plate then what I feared may be true.

However, if it's his ankle like someone else has mentioned, he may just be very unlucky.

I feel bad for the kid either way.

 

The thing is with me, isnt this year..it is the long term. I work with an older atty (lives in RI) who went to Penn State, huge donatator and still flies out for every home game they have (even this year), as he has season tickets. When Miami drafted Odrick, he was concerned, only because of his recurring injury history with fractures....he would say to people like us who look at his college stats will show a guy who didnt miss a whole hell of alot of game because he is a warrior, however many games he would play well less than 100% and was ineffective......he labeled him as a true high risk, high reward player....

I think we just saw the risk, hopefully we see the reward next year....

Get well Jared

 

Man, I'm glad there are some level-headed fans... Rediculous having to defend the whole organization everytime there is an injury!

I wasn't a fan of Odrick being picked until I saw the plan start to unfold. In Buffalo the kid did really well and I was expecting him to be a real good compliment to Langford this year. McDaniels is a really good utility player, so is Starks. Soliai has been better this year but really needs to work on his conditioning. Ireland will get it taken care of...

 

Don't take this the wrong way but what kind of a draft makes you a fan? They've been pretty good in drafting players, I'd say. They are not Bill Polian or anyone but they're pretty good.

And Odrick was a helluva player in college that really showed some great things up until his injury. It would be different if this guy has sucked this season and then got injured and its like "Wow, what a disappointment". But its to the contrary. There's a difference when he's in and when he's not IMO.

Don't be so quick to jump on the Nate Allen bandwagon. They have made his responsibilities very simple, which is why he has had early success.

Nothing's for sure. Technically, if I'm right thinking that a broken leg recovery period is six to eight weeks, he could be back for the end of the season.

 

I think the team has performed well without him so far. I'm not worried.

 

100% respect both your opinion and your efforts in providing information.

Not sure if I can say Miami has been pretty good in drafting players though. Far too early to grade this draft of course , but they have missed with high selections and it is tough to give a good grade with that track record imo.

They haven't been terrible and can still , obviously , have strong production from players that haven't yet done so , but anything more than average as far as a rating is generous imho.

 

The next Eddie Moore

 

What's your standard for "pretty good"

 

By teams that I think have drafted pretty well? Or just by not getting production from high high 2nd rounders , 3rd round selections , trading up for 4th rounders you cut ?

They haven't been terrible , in my estimation they also have not been "pretty good".

This year is too early to definitively grade of course , saying that so far there has not been a lot of production.

Last year major miss with White , pretty big miss with Turner , and Smith is a wait and see , year. Not as productive as a "pretty good " choice should be in round 2 in my estimation.

Merling has been a big dissapointment and trading up for Murphy proved to be a miss.

Long has been great , but should be at #1 overall , Henne has been good with a chance to substantially still improve and Langford has been very good imo.

Davis has been good/very good , Hartline ok and Clemons ok.

So , to me , again ... so far ... with everything weighed in , they have been only ok drafting, not pretty good as they have missed with too many high choices to reflect that.

Just my opinion of course , and I am not trying to be nagative, I believe I am realistic though.

 

I wouldn't go that far. Yeah, they can get along fine with who they're starting right now. But defensive linemen rotate in and out quite a bit, and it's when you get to that 2nd unit that you might start to see the drop off.

Furthermore, the problem from there is that if you give the starters more reps during the game you run the risk of wearing them down both in the game and towards the end of the season.

If they can find someone who can fill the gap adequately there may not be that much of a drop-off. But I'm hesitant to think that any of the raw, unproven guys we have now can be counted on for filling that spot adequately for the long term.

 

I don't know if anyone here can say what the exact details of his medical history at PSU were, whether or not the Fins should have known better, etc.

The Dolphins have been known to take chances with respect to injury and character stuff, so I don't discount either possibility (Possibility #1 being nobody could have known, Possibility #2 being they should have known).

Could Odrick be another 'Glass' Joe Toledo? Yeah he legitimately could be, especially if this leg fracture is literally the 3rd break in the same spot on the same fibula of the same leg. That's an ouch, you don't need to be a doctor to realize that. And it does remind of Yatil Green tearing the same ACL two years in a row. Funny thing about 'Glass' Joe Toledo and Yatil Green, one player had an extensive history of never being able to play and the other player had no history of it, and yet the two shared the same fate. So at this point we're debating whether he's a Toledo (should have known) or a Green (had no way to know)...and really we hope he's neither.

What I do know is that Jared Odrick was one of my favorite players coming out, that to me he was a worthwhile pick, and the more I saw of him in the preseason and regular season the more I liked him. He would have made plays this year. That's what makes this all the more tragic.

 

Been out of the loop for the last couple days due to RL, but **** **** damn. You have to be kidding me...

 

he needs a lot more injuries to be injury prone. Not the first guy who got hurt and missed most of his rookie season.

Chad Greenway tore his ACL his rookie year and he has had a pretty decent career.

 

I'm not asking what you think about the individual players, I'm asking what you think are the standards of what you should get in any single draft.

Basically I think you've got pretty unrealistic expectations as to the nature of the draft and how many "failures" you are gonna get no matter what.

 

I think another pertinent question would be was it repaired correctly to begin with. Was the Dr a hack or competent? We just don't have enough answers yet to determine if he is going to be a medical nightmare yet. I certainly hope that this is a correctable situation and the Phins take the time to let him heal before dumping him like some have been lately.

 

I think Clemons has been better than ok...2nd year and is starting at FS....and holding his own as well...

 

It's not just that though. Finyank13 brought up the possibility that there may have been other "fractures" that Odrick played through and if that's the case I find it virtually impossible that the Dolphins didn't know, and if they did know which they probably did then that does call into question whether or not they should have known he would be prone to it.

And not for nothin but steroid use does cause brittle bones and things like this. Someone needs to get the boy on some good HGH because those I believe actually strengthen bones often to the point of them protruding a little bit too much (cro-magnon man).

 

In your opinion, who has drafted better in that time frame?

 

PRESS CONFERENCE live on md.com in 5 minutes hopw we actually get a answer lol

http://www.miamidolphins.com/live-press-conference

 

Sparano says its a broken foot.

 

wow that sucks....new injury

 

did Sparano say how long he'll be out?

 

Sparano said hes "done for a long time" but stopped short of done for year.

 

I don't think so , at all. Thus the differing viewpoints , which is fine.

I don't think you should miss on high high draft choices , certainly where they have not and will not contribute basically at all. To wash out after one year doesn't constitute above average drafting ability.

You can offset a miss though if you hit a home run so to speak with a mid / late selection. Have I missed any of those?

So one year later if you have cut a very high number 2 and another number 2 isn't starting and seemingly has regressed , that constitutes , imo , not "pretty good" drafting.

Add to that a 3 that provided zero and is now gone , plus a#32 overall that has not matched expectations and again seemingly has slid back .Those tally up to average , mediocre , ok , so so drafting , again imho.

Sure they have had succesful choices , but as I mentioned, Jake Long should be a given , you don't deserve extra credit for selecting a pro bowl player #1 overall , I don't think.

I never said they were awful or drafted poorly , I believe in a realistic evaluation , legitimately they do not rank as "pretty good" at this point. That can improve if some players do , of course.

To me , the production from elite picks , core selections is not at the level it should be , thus my opinion.

I could be wrong , I have been before , as this organization also has.

 

Off the top of my head , and again you have to weigh in certain factors ( #1 overall etc. ) but GB has drafted well , Baltimore ,Houston ,Indy ,Giants , Denver ...

 

DENVER!?!? Are you drunk?