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If Sparano keeps backing a failing Henne will he lose his job?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by cobrajet, Oct 5, 2010.

If Henne doesn't improve and Tony won't replace him will he be fired?

Poll closed Oct 6, 2010.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

    24 vote(s)
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  1. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    During his press briefing, Tony Sparano, treated ESPN's Chris Mortensen's allegation of the team changing QB's as absurd. If Henne continues to falter and is not replaced will it cost TS his job??
     
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  2. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    TS is a hard nosed coach that I just love but changes must be made.
     
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  3. NJFINSFAN1

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Wouldn't Henne have to be failing for us to think about this?

    He is the 10th rated QB in the league and had one bad game.

    And Morts report was absurd.
     
  4. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    1st Henne would have to fail consistently. Since this hasn't happened the question is moot.
     
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  5. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Special teams need to be taken care of immediately.
    Tony needs to find this team an identity on offense and even on defense at times. Henne is getting too much of the blame today from everywhere.
    We caved as a team last night in the second half.
    Those are the things that need to be fixed and the wins have to come back for Sparano to feel safe with his job.
     
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  6. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Haven't you heard? Young QB's aren't allowed to have a bad game now and then anymore.
     
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  7. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    In Mort's defense, Henne absolutely sucks at coaching Special Teams.
     
  8. NJFINSFAN1

    NJFINSFAN1 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I guess not. :confused2:
     
  9. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    uhhh, didn't the poll say "IF", something doesn't change???
     
  10. GreysonWinfield

    GreysonWinfield Release The Hounds

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    The heading of the post implies he's failing.
     
  11. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Thank you.
     
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  12. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Shhhh, lets not tell them, they think they read the question right. :no:
     
  13. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    It wasn't exactly an implication. :wink2:
     
  14. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Isn't silly to say "keep on failing" after 1 bad game? you couldn't wait a couple weeks?
     
  15. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Am I wrong or did you change the title? Could have sworn I read the word "fail."
     
  16. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yup. Not in Miami anyways. They all have to show up, straight from college and play like Marino.

    That might be the post of the day :lol: Straight to the point.
     
  17. funkdat

    funkdat New Member

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    OP you are talking as if Henne has had many bad games back to back when he's only had one.

    His QB ratting is 86.1 lol and you are talking about him as if he's the second coming of John Beck or something.
     
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  18. Dolphins1Beatles

    Dolphins1Beatles Ziggy Stardust

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    Through his first 16 games he was 9-7, if that was all in one season, that's a playoff record. The Jets got to the AFC Championship game with that record. The Cardinals got to the Super Bowl with that record. The Patriots game was like the start of his 2nd season, and even he wasn't entirely at fault. The special teams gave up 21 points. The Dolphins cut the lead to 6 after Henne passed to Ricky, which came after the blocked punt and kick return TDs. He still fought back after those two horrible things that he had no part in. Then the Patriots march right down the field by running the ball and score on our defense, putting the Dolphins back into a double digit hole. It's very hard for a QB in his 17th game to keep overcoming that in one game.

    The jury is still out, but we could know soon. His stats through his first 17 games are very similar to Drew Brees' stats through his first 17 games as a starter. One game won't change that yet.
     
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  19. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Even if the implication is "IF" things don't change, the kid is still playing at a much higher level than last year.

    [​IMG]

    Last time I checked, the Patriots scored 13 offensive points while we scored 14.
     
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  20. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Henne is our guy. My goodness. *facepalm*
     
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  21. siciliansith

    siciliansith Resident Deviant

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    I wish i didnt vote in this poll. I didnt realize fast enough that you are asumming henne fails .

    I stand by Sparano all the way. Henne has stuff to prove but shouldnt be thrown under the bus yet. He is a young qb.
     
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  22. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    If Fans Keep Posting Utter Non Sense Like This....will we all facepalm our selves into the hospital?
     
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  23. NJFINSFAN1

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    He changed the title:up:
     
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  24. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
     
  25. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    New Poll:

    Should CobraJet get banned from the forums for the next month should Henne lead the team to victory against Green Bay?
     
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  26. arsenal

    arsenal Sunglasses and advil

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    i think if he switched to Pennington he should lose his job...

    i think we're still trying to win this year, switching to Pennington does not help that so that makes no sense
     
  27. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    This is the most ridiculous thread I've ever read..... and that's saying a lot..... b/c I've read a lot of your threads. :rimshot:

    "failing Henne"??! WOW!! Then I guess we should NEVER draft another QB again if one of the best ones drafted over the past 6 seasons isn't good enough. I forgot, silly me, QB's don't take time to develop in the NFL. According to your outlandish comment, half of the top QB's would be in the Arena League right now, including Brees.

    Let's look at ALLLLL the QB's drafted since 2005.

    Chad is roughly on par with Top 5 picks Matt Ryan and Sanchez... and IMO better than Stafford, Flacco, Cutler, Vince Young, and Josh Freeman. The ONLY player who is head and shoulders above everyone since the 05 draft is Aaron Rodgers..... and he has 3 years of experience over Henne. And IMO the only player close to Aaron's caliber is Sam Bradford.

    2005: Henne's better than 1st rounders Alex Smith & Jason Campbell........ Derek Anderson, Matt Cassel, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Charlie Frye, Andrew Walter, David Greene, Stefen LeFors, Dan Orlovsky, Adrien McPherson, James Killian. (the cream of 05 was Rodgers)

    2006: Chad's better than 1st rounder Vince Young & Leinart...... 2nd rounders Kellen Clemens & Tavaris Jackson...... Charlie Whitehurst, Ingle Martin, Omar Jacobs, Reggie McNeal, Bruce Gradkowski, and DJ Shockley. (Cutler is the best of 06)

    2007: He's better than 1st rounders Russell & Quinn..... 2nd rounders Kevin Kolb, Beck & Drew Stanton..... Trent Edwards, Isaiah Steinback, Jeff Rowe, Troy Smith, Jordan Palmer, and Thigpen.

    2008: He's better than the rest of the 08 draft- Brohm, Booty, Dennis Dixon, Josh Johnson, Eric Ainge, Colt Brennan, Andre Woodson, Matt Flynn, and Alex Brink.

    2009: Better than the remaining 09 draft- Pat White, Rhett Bomar, Stephen McGee, Tom Brandstater, Keith Null, and Curtis Painter.

    2010: Should be better than anyone not named Bradford.

    All totaled, that's a LOT of friggin QB's!!

    You act like elite QBs grow on trees. Be happy that we found a good one. Either stop complaining or hope that we finish dead last in the NFL so we can use a #1 pick on a franchise QB who may never be better than Henne. Drew Brees's & Peyton Manning's don't come along every season you know...... heck his own family can't even duplicate him.

    So please tell me, what hat are we guaranteed to pull this all-world QB out of? The chance of finding a better QB in the draft is slim...... and he will STILL take time to develop.
     
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  28. padre31

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    Well, yr 3 of a 4 yr deal, if we fail this year, say go 6-10, is it not a possibility that Sparano is fired?

    I think it is, if we win, say 10-6, then no way, this is a key season for the Sparanophins.
     
  29. Coral Reefer

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    Spot on.
    Henne made mistakes.
    The 2 first half INT's were bad especially the second one but it happens with a young QB.

    Our problems ran deeper than Henne this week..... much deeper.
    ST's weren't bad they were flat out atrocious. I've never seen such a melt down by a ST's squad.

    There are no other options either.
    You bench Henne and you trade off the negatives he brings to the table with his inexperience and WR stare downs for Penningtons limitations with his arm and throws defenses know he can and can't make effectively. Not to mention you SERIOUSLY delay the team's future development by bringing in Pennington.

    Henne staying the starter makes sense on all levels unless he starts having a complete meltdown.

    IMO, Sparano sitting Henning down and talking with him about playing to our strengths and stopping all the cute crap does much more for this team than siting Henne.
     
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  30. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    I have 2 words for you: REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS
     
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  31. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    This thread kind of sucks.
     
  32. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    I don't think anyone is down on Henne for the results of one game. That would be foolish. But if you take the rose colored glasses off and look at the whole year you will see a different issue.

    -He has been drastically under throwing receivers in every game

    -He has no footwork and is unable to roll out, run a bootleg or flush the pocket

    -His immobility is making our offense one dimensional putting LB's in pass coverage

    -He is holding the ball waaaaaaaaaay too long

    -He needs a full 6 seconds of pass protection, double that of other teams

    When the thread spoke of "failures", I kinda think these were the issues, not the results of a special teams implosion of one game. I don't think the thread "sucks", but I do think that some of your responses to it certainly do.

    It would be a pretty boring world if everyone had the same opinion, in fact it would defeat the purpose of the forum itself.
     
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  33. texasPHINSfan

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    I pretty much do not agree with any of that :no:
     
  34. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    No, but it does get fired...
     
  35. texasPHINSfan

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    We need to move Zach Thomas to SS :up:
     
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  36. Finsanity

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    another one of these stupid threads
     
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  37. Firesole

    Firesole Season Ticket Holder

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    Seriously? Every ****ing day we have these types of threads now? When did this place turn into FH? And it always seems to be the same 2 people stirring the pot. This place seems to be full of Chicken Littles lately
     
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  38. TheMageGandalf

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    Forget it bro.

    Just like Ginn and countless others. The fanboys will go down with the ship.

    I wonder if some of those Ginn fanboys still think he needs another year to develop. ("He's only in year 3! He needs more time people!")

    <sigh>

    Henne is average. NOTHING the kid shows me says other wise. He is like the Jay Fiedler of this era only non-mobile (which is bad) and less prone to the game destroying INT (which is good). Nothing against him, just what I see.

    For the record I say NO, I dont think Sparano gets fired if he keeps Henne on as QB.

    In fact I dont see anyone getting the axe no matter how bad we do this year unless Ross steps in like Wayne did after '95 and Parcells leaves completely.
     
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  39. Bpk

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    stupidest post of the day. you are a clown, sir.

    Zach is not suited to strong safety. His skillset screams Free Safety.
     
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  40. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Kudos for walking straight into a fussilade of musket fire on this one, bro. Brave and ballsy.

    Look, we oughta be able to discuss this stuff. And yes, after a BAD loss, negativity is in the air.

    I think Henne is either the future.. or isn't.

    Seriously.

    If he isn't we can;t throw in the towel too soon... cuz plan B (PEnnington) is NOT the future.
     
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