Henne's biggest problem IMO is that he fails to look defenses off. You can not look at your receiver the entire route and be successful in the nfl
I understand the Jets have a good defense, but so does Miami. You guys weren't saying this stuff when you guys were winning. We had a bad game against you guys on SNF. Henne tore us up! But Sanchez carried us.
Our defense played well in the first 2 games, but they've been very pedestrian since then. The only bad game the Jets D had was against Henne, who did throw for 363 on them. And Henning got your thank-you card for his red-zone calls in that game, too.
I'm not saying he sucks no matter what. I'm saying your logic is flawed when you say he has superior talent to Henne, because that is horse ****. Put Henne on the Jets right now and his numbers are as good or better than Sanchez. I don't give a **** about who started more games in college. And FYI, Sanchez has more NFL starts than Henne.
3 INT´s And 2 that where dropped. Henne sucks he is not the future we made a mistake NEXT. Fire sparano Fire henning DRAFT AN RB Sign a WR sign a KR New defense DONE keys to success
Maybe Henne has more starts but Henne has more NFL experience. I don't understand how you can assume Henne's stats will be equal or better than Sanchez's. The Dolphins got a great offensive line and the best offensive lineman in the league. Top 3 WR. Pretty good running game. Sanchez is the better player.
Without question? That's very debatable. Before last night, Henne threw one INT and that was on a desperastion last play. You make it sound like he is stinking up the joint. He is not. And there is defintely some luck involved that Sanchez doesn't have an INT.
There are certain physical tools that Henne brings to the table that Sanchez can only dream about....... as there are certain qualities that Mark possesses that Henne does not. To say one QB is better than the other at this juncture is like saying that your chili tastes better than mine when they haven't even finished cooking yet.
God, this Sanchez vs Henne argument is ridiculous. Sanchez is playing better football right now, end of story. He's also got a better system around him, if for no other reason than he's got a very deadly TE in Keller, and an overall better line. Our line has been overhauled every single year, and we're still not happy with it... that's not good. The only consistency has been at the ends. Point being, Sanchez is, whether you guys want to admit it or not, playing better than Henne right now. I think he's just in a better position to succeed.
IMO he will turn the corner..... and the reason why is his attitude, toughness, determination, confidence, and perfectionist mentality as Sparano has spoken of. Henne wants to be a winner. These are the intangibles that take a QB with potential and help them achieve that potential. I believe Sanchez has the same intangibles, too. IMO, the difference between Mark and Chad right now is that we will be placing more pressure on Henne to carry our team this season than the Jets will place on Sanchez b/c of Mark's supporting cast. This is something that could make Mark seem like a better QB on paper, but at the same time could be greatly valuable for Henne's development..... or act to expedite it. Just my thoughts.
This is true..... but it's easier said than done. Despite his supporting cast, he still plays the most important position on the field and is getting the job done. He's making smart decisions and not turning the ball over. I don't think you can penalize him for doing what the coaches ask of him. Does Brees not get credit for winning b/c he, too, has a tremendous supporting cast? I'm not saying Sanchez is Drew by any means...... and there's still 12 games left for NY to play...... but I think Mark deserves credit for his performance so far considering he's playing better than last season when he basically had the same defense and an even better special teams to aid him.
sanchez has played better so far this season but i predict you are going to see a poor game out of him soon. in fact i think minnesota will be that game. to me they are neck and neck at this stage of their careers. i think you will see both of them have good games, great games and crappy games. That tends to be the pattern of 2nd year starters. people seem to have forgotten how bad sanchez looked week 1. henne had his crap game in week 4. fans tend to look at the last game and blow it up out of proportion long term i like henne more.
Henne started the game 7/7 for 93 yards and a TD. He finished the game with 75% passing completion on the heels of 2 TD's. I'm not worried about Henne. That game got out of hand because of special teams, not our QB play.
Sorry.... it's Sanchez who has more NFL experience. Great offensive line? We have the makings of a great line, but we certainly don't have a great Oline presently. We're w/o our starting RG the past 2 games. Our Center was our backup last season. All 3 of our interior OLine haven't had sufficient time to gel properly. Carey has some woes against the pass rush. The only consistent, bright spot on our line in both run AND pass is Long. Our receivers are good as a whole, but you're forgetting one key component of today's NFL offense that you have that we dont: a threat at TE (Keller). And our ground game is suffering b/c of our interior line. Despite a decent game last night, Ricky is showing his age. Having him carry the load last season after Ronnie went down put too much irreversible wear on him IMO.
We never had the lead in the 4th quarter, so he still hasn't done it. In fact, it's something I've been saying about the two since the summer. Chad Henne has 3 game winning drives already. Sanchez has zero. We know Henne can step up when it counts, I have yet to see Sanchez do that, and he has had his chances. Not taking anything away from Sanchez though, he has played great football so far, kudos to him. However, I want to see him do it with the game on the line.
We're also w/o our starting DE, Odrick,and backup DE, McDaniel, who is rotated in heavily...... and we're w/o Crowder. Our defense revolves around our Dline. When 2 key components are missing, it hurts us. Outside of Dansby, we don't have high end free agent acquisitions scattered across the field to help out like NY does.
Does Minn have to be the game? I really want to beat Favre I agree with the rest of your post, except that I like Sanchez more only because he is on my team. That sways it in his favor. But neither QB has shown me anything to say that one will be better than the other long term. P.S. Arm strength means little to me. I can list you a bunch of QB's that had strong arms that were flops in the NFL.
To be devil's advocate, Sanchez has a record of 12-8..... so by default, he's had less opportunities to come from behind. But I do agree, it's still something that he will have to prove he can do.
While we were already ahead by 1 when it happened, the last TD drive againt you guys was as big it gets. That won the game in my book.
Arm strength isn't vital but it certainly is a plus. When you have an arm to get the ball anywhere on the field, even with defenders close by, it opens up your offense.
Agreed, but I have heard people knock Sanchez's arm stregnth and while it may not be the strongest, I have seen him make all the throws a pro needs to make.
Agreed, but it's different when you're behind or tied. Again, Sanchez has looked good and you guys should be happy, but I'd still like to see him come through at the end of the game when they need a score to win. Not saying he can;t or anything, but I want to see it.
Very true.... but Henne uses his arm strength in conjunction with some very accurate downfield throws that I'm not sure if Sanchez will ever be able to consistently make. Not saying that alone makes Henne better though. However, Sanchez can make some plays with his feet that Henne can not. Chad has his strengths while Mark has his own.
I have only watched 3 of your 4 games this year and only a handful last year, but I don't ever recall seeing Henne throw a pass that Sanchez couldn't. Can he? Probably. But I haven't seen it.
Making them, yes..... but to what degree? He doesn't have the same window to make a downfield throw that Henne does. It can mean the difference between the safety being there and not being there. Defenses have to respect the entire field with Henne. They don't have to respect it to the same degree with Mark. However, defenses have to respect Mark's feet where as Chad's are made of paper weights. Short to mid accuracy might presently be in Mark's favor, but I think Henne is consistently improving on this. He's giving our WR's better opportunity to gain YAC than last season. I wish we could take Mark's best qualities and combine them with Henne's.
Sorry if you misunderstood. I didn't say Sanchez cant make them. I said that I don't feel he can make them as consistently or as effectively (depending on where the defenders are etc). Henne has a cannon. I've seen him squeeze in some balls down the sideline that very QB's in the league could dream of making..... and his back-shoulder pass is becoming impressive. It's not a slight against Mark; it's just a strength of Chad's. It would be like comparing Mark's mobility to Steve Young. Yes, Mark can make plays with his feet, but that doesn't mean he can do what Young did.
well with sanchez i think he is more reckless. he's contained it this year but i think he will throw more interceptions in his career. thats good and bad. he'll make plays but he'll also make mistakes. henne will be the safer qb i believe. i also prefer henne under defensive pressure. i still see sanchez as someone who will try to make a play when the protection breaks down. henne generally will throw it away or take the sack. its really a philosophical argument. do you prefer someone who will make more mistakes but also more plays or would you rather have someone who plays safe and makes less plays and less mistakes. i prefer playing it safe unless you need a score in the 4th and as long as it doesnt get too conservative and you just check everyhting down all the time
I don't think Mark makes the TD throw to Ginn over Revis.... and I don't think Mark zips in a 25 yard sideline pass in between the corner and the safety to the degree that Henne does it. But this isn't Mark's strong suit, nor is it the reason he was drafted.
What were you saying after the first game against the Ravens, Henne hasn't played that bad yet and I thought last Sunday he was better than Sanchez. Henne was playing the Jets defense and handled it Sanchez couldn't handled the Ravens.
Jets didn't give Sanchez a chance against the Ravens. But I see what you are saying. I don't think Henne has ever played a game like Sanchez did against Buffalo last year.
