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Pagan · Apr 14, 2008

Whoa....Pens EXPLODE to start the 3rd period! Two goals in 1:30 to start the period and blow the game open!

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Give 'em another one! Hossa bangs it home...4-1 Pens!

3-0 here we come...

brandon27 · Apr 14, 2008

the sens are done. i wish id picked pittsburg in 4 instead of in 5 in my pool. damn!

brandon27 · Apr 14, 2008

and in a disturbing turn of events in Nashville... Hasek gives up two soft goals in about 30 seconds with 3 minutes to go in the 3rd... the wings bound to loose now.. 4-3 nashville... Im willing to bet this gives them enough momentum to take out the wings in the first round again... god... i HATE hasek... retire already... jeez...

unifiedtheory · Apr 14, 2008

Pink_dove said:

He runs goaltenders, yaps about family and health - still don't understand how any Rangers fan can support him after his disparaging comments to Blake about cancer, which he denies of course, even though it was confirmed by his own teamate - turtles when challenged, spears, and hits from behind. If the instigator was still around, he'd be out of the league, drinking with a straw. His day will still come, instigator or not.

I can't see the Rangers winning anything of importance with him though, and that should be all that matters. No player is bigger than the team. With the Pens, Mario Lemieux could rein in Ulf Samuelsson, in Colorado, Joe Sakic could rein in Claude Lemieux, with the Wings, Steve Yzerman could rein in Dino Cicarelli, I don't see anyone on the Rangers reining this monkey in, although Chris Drury tried today.
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And did it on the damn ice!

You sound like me...LOL! Avery is exactly the type of player that needs to be out of the damn league. The guy is a class A turd. In the past people like Kenny Linseman and Esa Tikkinen would yap and be dirty but had to actually "answer the bell" and be accountable at some point, the men in the room would not allow them to NOT answer the bell.

Players like Avery, Cooke, Tootoo and their ilk are not held accountable. I can't WAIT until the instigator is loosened so some of these guys get it fed to them...HARD.

Off topic: Dave Nonis was fired as the Canucks' general manager today...this town is on fire over the topic.

Pink_dove · Apr 14, 2008

unifiedtheory said:

And did it on the damn ice!

You sound like me...LOL! Avery is exactly the type of player that needs to be out of the damn league. The guy is a class A turd. In the past people like Kenny Linseman and Esa Tikkinen would yap and be dirty but had to actually "answer the bell" and be accountable at some point, the men in the room would not allow them to NOT answer the bell.

Players like Avery, Cooke, Tootoo and their ilk are not held accountable. I can't WAIT until the instigator is loosened so some of these guys get it fed to them...HARD.

Off topic: Dave Nonis was fired as the Canucks' general manager today...this town is on fire over the topic.
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Yeah, we see eye to eye once again, yawn. The last time I remember disagreeing with you is about Phil Kessel. I really liked him coming out of the draft, you not so much. The light hasn't gone on yet, although the circumstances haven't been the most welcoming. Milan Lucic picked about 45 spots later has looked okay though. (;

unifiedtheory · Apr 15, 2008

Pink_dove said:

Yeah, we see eye to eye once again, yawn. The last time I remember disagreeing with you is about Phil Kessel. I really liked him coming out of the draft, you not so much. The light hasn't gone on yet, although the circumstances haven't been the most welcoming. Milan Lucic picked about 45 spots later has looked okay though. (;
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And I've adopted Phil as "my boy" on the Bruins message board...he gets WAY too much crap by some B's "fans". The guy is 20.

I think he's a victim of circumstance right now. Julien feels they need more jam in the line up and he won't sit Glen Murray in favour of Phil, something that he SHOULD do because Murray offers nothing. The thought of Savvy, Lucic and Kessel makes me quite excited.

The more I think about the future of this hockey club the happier I get.

unifiedtheory · Apr 15, 2008

****...

Carey Price is so good positionally. You could see he is in the Bruins heads that way. They know unless its perfect he sucks it up. In the last :30 they had it in the Habs' end and were passing it to get him out of position, passing up on 1 or 2 decent chances at shots.

Very good game though and the officiating was EXCELLENT, they let them play, no ticky tack regular season tapping penalties.

unifiedtheory · Apr 15, 2008

...and the more I think about it the more upset I'm getting...LOL!

Down 3-1 now in the series and they could be up 3-1 if they had a little more offense. I miss you Bergy.

54Fins · Apr 16, 2008

Devils-Rangers on Versus tonight.Glad I finally get to see my team play.

Rocky Raccoon · Apr 16, 2008

does the NHL playoffs re-seed after the series' are over? I want to know who my Flyers will be playing after they finish off the Caps

Pink_dove · Apr 16, 2008

unifiedtheory said:

****...

Carey Price is so good positionally. You could see he is in the Bruins heads that way. They know unless its perfect he sucks it up. In the last :30 they had it in the Habs' end and were passing it to get him out of position, passing up on 1 or 2 decent chances at shots.

Very good game though and the officiating was EXCELLENT, they let them play, no ticky tack regular season tapping penalties.
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Patrice Brisebois compared him today to Patrick Roy in '93. There was also a tidbit about how important trading Cristobal Huet was for Carey Price's confidence. That trade came out of left field, but from a psychological standpoint, it told Price you are the guy, we have faith in you, and we'll ride you as far as you can take us. In retrospect, between not mortgaging the future for Hossa, and trading away Huet, Bob Gainey earned his paycheck at the trade deadline.

Pagan · Apr 16, 2008

PSG · Apr 16, 2008

Congrat, Pagan. The Pens really put the boots to the my Sens.
Watch for the mushroom cloud above Scotiabank Place in the little while.
Me thinks things might get blown up.
The first rumour I've heard, as per columnist Al Strachan, Jason Spezza and Ray Emery to Vancouver for Roberto Luongo.
I can't see the Canucks doing that, but Luongo does want out.
Unified, have you heard anything coming out of Vancouver. I'm not buying what Strachan is selling but I'd love to see it, as a Sens fan.

TheHighExhaulted · Apr 16, 2008

LET'S GO RANGERS!

One more game. Rangers up 3-1 thanks to a big goal by Marc Staal with minutes remaining.

Pink_dove · Apr 17, 2008

pigskinguy said:

Congrat, Pagan. The Pens really put the boots to the my Sens.
Watch for the mushroom cloud above Scotiabank Place in the little while.
Me thinks things might get blown up.
The first rumour I've heard, as per columnist Al Strachan, Jason Spezza and Ray Emery to Vancouver for Roberto Luongo.
I can't see the Canucks doing that, but Luongo does want out.
Unified, have you heard anything coming out of Vancouver. I'm not buying what Strachan is selling but I'd love to see it, as a Sens fan.
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Impossible. Not only will the Sens buy out Emery, but there currently isn't anyone managing the Canucks since Nonis was fired a few days ago, and his replacement has yet to be named.

Pagan · Apr 17, 2008

pigskinguy said:

Congrat, Pagan. The Pens really put the boots to the my Sens.
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Much like you guys did to us last year bro. I have a feeling you guys will be right back n the thick of things next year.

unifiedtheory · Apr 18, 2008

pigskinguy said:

Congrat, Pagan. The Pens really put the boots to the my Sens.
Watch for the mushroom cloud above Scotiabank Place in the little while.
Me thinks things might get blown up.
The first rumour I've heard, as per columnist Al Strachan, Jason Spezza and Ray Emery to Vancouver for Roberto Luongo.
I can't see the Canucks doing that, but Luongo does want out.
Unified, have you heard anything coming out of Vancouver. I'm not buying what Strachan is selling but I'd love to see it, as a Sens fan.
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Luongo is not going anywhere. I like Strachan personally but a lot of times he throws **** at the wall to see what sticks. The Canucks are a lot closer then most people think. They are set on defense with 2 good young prospects there and they have a top 3 goalie. Add to that they have a checking/3rd line and a great 2nd line. They will spend their cap room on some scoring and make a push.

I don't think the Sens find a single buyer for Emery. Like Pinky said, they'll buy him out and rid themselves of the head ache. I dunno about blowing it up. They need a heart transplant though. Their defense, IMO, will be their undoing until they find a legit #1 guy. They can dangle Dany Heatley until June 1st when his no trade clause kicks in.

I think the Canucks will/could/should wait it out until Detroit is bounced and throw the farm at Kenny Holland. He's a BC guy and lives here in the off season. If that fails try and get Jim Nill from Detroit, their head scout.

unifiedtheory · Apr 18, 2008

BTW...the coronation for Carey Price and the Habs can be put on hold for another 2 days.

It was great to see Phil Kessel get of the mat and play so well tonight, I think Julien might have woken him up with that benching.

I'm really enjoying watching my Bruins become the hardest working team in hockey again. They are busting their ASSES out there, scratching and clawing for anything they can muster and I think they rattled Price tonight. If they can pop in the 1st goal on Saturday night it could be VERY interesting.

xDOLPHINSx · Apr 18, 2008

Ugh, im a sad man these days. Minnesota is just laying an egg right now. Gaborik can't even get a point in the series. They outplayed the Avs all game but little did they know the Avs built a brick wall in the form of Jose Theodore. Seriously this guy is killin it out there.

Pink_dove · Apr 18, 2008

Ouch.

Sens fans, your bubble of delusion has finally popped. One can only hope that you take a valuable lesson from this pathetic, predictable, and pitiful ending to an over-hyped fantasy you've been indulging since October when this city's fawning and obsequious print and radio media convinced the Sens that they had a chance to be mentioned in the same conversation as the great Habs teams of the past.

The collective and uproarious laugh that went up in Leaf Nation has only returned stronger after watching this overrated, overpaid band of underachievers stumble and bumble their way to a playoff exit. Having to listen to various local radio sports talk myopians and cheerleaders make excuse after excuse for players like Chris Neil, Ray Emery and a gaggle of marginal contributors like Mike Fisher and a weak defence over the past number of months explains why you need this lesson: watch the game with your own eyes.

Sure the Leafs missed the playoffs and it's another long summer in TO but at least Leaf fans are honest with ourselves and the Toronto media kicks the team around mercilessly all year whereas here, they can't see the forest for the trees. Have a nice summer Sens fans and know that despite missing the playoffs, Leaf Nation is smiling ear to ear.

Brent Rouleau,
Ottawa
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PSG · Apr 18, 2008

unifiedtheory said:

Luongo is not going anywhere. I like Strachan personally but a lot of times he throws **** at the wall to see what sticks. The Canucks are a lot closer then most people think. They are set on defense with 2 good young prospects there and they have a top 3 goalie. Add to that they have a checking/3rd line and a great 2nd line. They will spend their cap room on some scoring and make a push.

I don't think the Sens find a single buyer for Emery. Like Pinky said, they'll buy him out and rid themselves of the head ache. I dunno about blowing it up. They need a heart transplant though. Their defense, IMO, will be their undoing until they find a legit #1 guy. They can dangle Dany Heatley until June 1st when his no trade clause kicks in.

I think the Canucks will/could/should wait it out until Detroit is bounced and throw the farm at Kenny Holland. He's a BC guy and lives here in the off season. If that fails try and get Jim Nill from Detroit, their head scout.
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Yeah, I wasn't buying the Luongo thing either. Vancouver would be crazy to make that trade.
As far as dangling Heatley, there is far more talk around here about dangling Spezza. Not sure who I'd rather trade/keep.
But I agree this team does need and influx of heart.
After Alfredsson (Whose heart and character should NEVER be questioned again,) Mike Fisher, Chris Phillips and Anton Volchenkov, there's not much heart and character on this roster.

54Fins · Apr 19, 2008

Congrats to the Ranger's and their fan's.Tough series,as I knew it would be.
Pretty well played with the exception of Avery.
I wish I can say good luck in the next round,but I can't.

The DEVILS will be back.The always are!!

unifiedtheory · Apr 19, 2008

It is 9:00 AM my time, the game isn't on for 7 hours and I'm already nervous....LOL! Biggest hockey game played in Boston in years...that is VERY sad but I'm stoked none the less.

brandon27 · Apr 19, 2008

unifiedtheory said:

I think the Canucks will/could/should wait it out until Detroit is bounced and throw the farm at Kenny Holland. He's a BC guy and lives here in the off season. If that fails try and get Jim Nill from Detroit, their head scout.
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Ken Holland, and Jim Nill will probably never leave the Detroit organization. Its known as one of the best organizations in the league, and with one of the best owners to work for in the league in Mike Ilitch. Chances of either one of those guys leaving is very slim. At least not until the club feels that Yzerman is ready to take on more of a role in the front office.

unifiedtheory · Apr 19, 2008

brandon27 said:

Ken Holland, and Jim Nill will probably never leave the Detroit organization. Its known as one of the best organizations in the league, and with one of the best owners to work for in the league in Mike Ilitch. Chances of either one of those guys leaving is very slim. At least not until the club feels that Yzerman is ready to take on more of a role in the front office.
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I totally agree. That said, Holland is the type that might want a challenge, knowing he can leave the organization in good hands with Stevie Y and Jim Nill still there.

There are some odd names being chucked around out here. Mike Gillis, Brian Lawton, Neil Smith etc. I thought firing Nonis was a mistake to begin with, a kneejerk reaction from an owner who in 12 months of owning the team has already gotten the reputation as meddling. Now I think it could be a disaster. They won't get any of the top notch guys because none of them will want to work for a meddler. I think they'll get stuck with a retread (Neil Smith) or a greenhorn.

unifiedtheory · Apr 19, 2008

If a non-hockey fan watched that game 6 between Boston and Montreal I think they would be hooked on the sport. I've watched a ton of hockey in my life, too much to count, that was one of the best 5 games I've ever seen.

I can't believe my Bruins. Even IF they don't win the series they are back and relevant. The youth is carrying the team and Zdeno Chara is a horse and playing hurt.

Pink_dove · Apr 19, 2008

unifiedtheory said:

It is 9:00 AM my time, the game isn't on for 7 hours and I'm already nervous....LOL! Biggest hockey game played in Boston in years...that is VERY sad but I'm stoked none the less.
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Congrats Uni. Game certainly lived up to its billing.

- The Bruins won the battle along the boards. They're also sending two men in the offensive zone, while the Habs are forechecking with one man most of the time. Edit: And yeah, Zdeno Chara is a horse. Try getting him off the puck. Damn.

- Julien is outcoaching Carbonneau. After the shellacking in game 1, he went back to the drawing board, and the Bruins haven't looked back since. Benching Kessel also sent a message. He's boss, and that's that. He also reminded me tonight why I was so high on him before the draft.

- The Habs need to get their PP going. That was a big reason for their success, but they haven't had any success yet, in part because, apparently, Markov is playing injured. Still, they need to get their act together.

Brown42000 · Apr 19, 2008

unifiedtheory said:

If a non-hockey fan watched that game 6 between Boston and Montreal I think they would be hooked on the sport. I've watched a ton of hockey in my life, too much to count, that was one of the best 5 games I've ever seen.

I can't believe my Bruins. Even IF they don't win the series they are back and relevant. The youth is carrying the team and Zdeno Chara is a horse and playing hurt.
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Your right, I saw tonight's game and when they scored that go ahead goal I jumped up screaming and I can't even name 5 players altogether between the two teams. Great game and GO BRUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

unifiedtheory · Apr 20, 2008

Brown42000 said:

Your right, I saw tonight's game and when they scored that go ahead goal I jumped up screaming and I can't even name 5 players altogether between the two teams. Great game and GO BRUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wpgfishfan · Apr 20, 2008

Koivu came back and played very good

Gotta love game 7's

Still think the Habs will take it though

wpgfishfan · Apr 20, 2008

unifiedtheory said:

If a non-hockey fan watched that game 6 between Boston and Montreal I think they would be hooked on the sport. I've watched a ton of hockey in my life, too much to count, that was one of the best 5 games I've ever seen.

I can't believe my Bruins. Even IF they don't win the series they are back and relevant. The youth is carrying the team and Zdeno Chara is a horse and playing hurt.
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Dominizzo is looking for ya

unifiedtheory · Apr 20, 2008

wpgfishfan said:

Dominizzo is looking for ya
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Is he on Finheaven? I have not been there in a long time. Maybe I'll pay him a visit.

Pagan · Apr 20, 2008

Bruins manage to take this series and it'll be Pens/Bruins.

That will be something to watch.

unifiedtheory · Apr 20, 2008

Pagan said:

Bruins manage to take this series and it'll be Pens/Bruins.

That will be something to watch.
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Just beating Montreal means everything is gravy for me, hell, making it to game 7 is gravy.

Finrunner · Apr 20, 2008

STARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They took it to the Ducks in the third period, went to net, and it paid off! 4-2 series win.

There's gonna be new champions.

[P.S. Turco played well this series, following up last year's pretty good performance. Maybe he's beaten the bad rap.]

wpgfishfan · Apr 21, 2008

Even Bill Simmons from ESPN is writing about hockey again.

He has some great points about Bettman screwing up the NHL

Warning before you read you need to know he is a Bruins Fan

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080421

brandon27 · Apr 21, 2008

...and there goes boston. Carey Price... what more can you say about him. Great move by montreal at the deadline to move Huet and give Price the job. He's been outstanding for the most part. Another good old canadian boy, playing the good old canadian game!! beauty!!

Brown42000 · Apr 22, 2008

Bruins came out flat and stayed flat for last nights game, so many opportunities to score but couldn't execute and IMO had more to do with Boston taking lousy shots and not being creative then it had to do with Carey Price. Good season Bruins you surprised everyone.

TheHighExhaulted · Apr 22, 2008

Philadelphia wins. Does that mean New York plays Montreal and Philly plays Pittsburgh?

If so, THANK YOU!

wpgfishfan · Apr 22, 2008

Cool Calm Mike said:

Philadelphia wins. Does that mean New York plays Montreal and Philly plays Pittsburgh?

If so, THANK YOU!
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Nope

NYR vs Pitt

Mont vs Phil

How long till Pagan wants to kill Avery????????

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