Personally, I thought he did a good job of gaining separation on the play and sold it well. That was on Thiggy IMO. Welcome Robert Horry...... or are you an imposter? LOL
Little disappointing, but there are many factors why I'm not worried. If we go out and lay an egg next game and the game after then ill start worrying....
That was really disappointing, wait 6 months for a Dolphins football game, spend all of the time learning who is who on the roster, and watch the game devolve into a mud bowl. That mud neutralizes the fast guys, ask the 1982 Jets team...
I know this might not be the most practical thing in the world but maybe Mr. Ross, J-Lo, Buffet, the William's sisters, etc., could pony up some money and cover the dirt portion of the infield with artificial turf during the preseason, and leave this turf on until the Marlins are done with their season. Why should the Phins have to suffer and risk injury every year? It's not like the Marlins are even going to sniff the playoffs. I would rather have the Phins running on a partial area of artificial turf then having to run through dirt and mud. Ohhhh and the game was about what I expected.....an opening preseason game with lots of mistakes, but the Phins still won it and there were some nice surprises.
I enjoyed the game personally. Just glad to see the 'Phins out there hitting again. Loved watching some of the defensive plays unfold, and the offense had some bad plays-- but it was pre-season...no biggie.
Odrick was walked off with the injury looked like the wind got knocked out of him. He did the post game interview... said once the butterflies go away it is just football. Loving these kids. Misi has a great push. Impressive
That would be all well and good if the fact was that Tampa "drove through the mud". The fact is that they took one snap from the mud on that drive. Did you just call 7 points "production"?
The infield doesn't magically cause us to lose games, though. Its absence just robs the team of a potential excuse, that's all.
Especially since those short throws still lack touch.He still just zings it on a straight line which could partially account for the drops .The rain didnt help either catching those balls.
I don't know what you mean by this? Henne threw the ball with touch on the short passes. It may not be floating passes that have arc, but they are soft and are on a rope at the same time. They are in the NFL, those passes need to be caught. The 3 drops had nothing to do with Henne. Henne placed the first pass on the slant perfectly. There was a safety coming in front of Marshall and a CB on his hip to the outside. He threw the ball a bit behind Marshall in order to evade the safety who might have picked it off if he threw it in front of him. The ball hit Marshall on the hands and he dropped it. The dig route was a perfectly placed ball by Henne. He threw it in front of Marshall, allowing him to use his hands and getting massive YAC after he caught it. He dropped it again. THe pass to Hartline was thrown fine as well. He threw it low in order to evade the safety hovering Hartline and Hartline tries to use his body instead of his hands to catch it and drops it.
Agree 100% with this. And not to make excuses but that slant was a wet bullet, which a corner was all over Marshall's hand/arm to break that thing up. This is one of those timing things they're gonna work on and get on the same page as the season progresses. Yes, it was a very good quick throw by Henne, but you can't underestimate the difficulty of that particular catch given the circumstances. No excuse for that other drop. Same for Hartline's drop.
Anyone else find it funny that a Josh Johnson fielded an "infield fly" at Sunlife and it wasn't a Marlin?
Disappointing if you are Stephen Ross...He should be ashamed of himself for allowing this to happen. Other stadiums share baseball and football and aren't this bad in bad weather....Joe Robbie is turning over in his grave.
Right area, wrong team....Oakland is the only other one. The Giants moved into their new digs back in 1999 or 2000, so the 49'ers have Candlestick all to themselves.
That was the same vibe I got, that they were bored or disinterested in playing the game last night. A real lack of energy.
Only one stadium is left doing that besides Sun Life and that is in Oakland. A stadium that is, mind you, nearly 50 years old.
If Marshall caught that second pass, he had running room, and a decent amount of it too. And he knew it.
Point is, it's embarrassing or at least should be if I'm Stephen Ross. All the work he's done to create a fan-fun situation, and then to have that quagmire really ruin the game for both sides. I can excuse the poor play. Weather wasn't an issue for the offensive mediocre play and the D's less than stellar play (1st teams, anyway)....but that field is embarrassing...
the team w/ embarrassing against a very bad NFL team (bonified bottom feeder) the field w/ wet for both sides & they produced a passing game w/ no-name rookie WR's sporting an inferior offensive line think about it... more excuses?
reality check: first preseason & we sucked got time to fix what doesn't work but you can't hide from the truth & expect to improve the game w/pathetic I noted very few bright spots 4 a team talking Dan Marino-2 & promising to contend... __________________
Of course I call what the Bucs first string offense did against our 1st string D "delivering". They scored on a nice drive where they gained chunks of yardage in the same rainy and muddy conditions that people are claiming made it impossible for our offense to do anything. I could care less about the 10 points our 2nd and 3rd team players put up against the Bucs second and third stringers. It's irrelevant.
From their first team that was in all of 2 drives. Absolutely 7 points is producing. They completely outplayed our starters IN THE SAME CONDITIONS. Would you call 0 points, a number of drops and a QB that seemed inable to pass a wet ball acceptable from our starters on offense? No one is saying to panic or that our season is in jeapordy. Just saying these "wet conditions killed us" excuses are weak. Our guys were not well prepared to produce and the Bucs were. End of story. They obviously need to address it. I guarantee you that the team isn't dismissing it like some of you are. I certainly hope not.
The stadium looks close to finish. Is it really not going to be done by April? It famously took 410 days to build the Empire State Building in 1930, during the Great Depression no less. Why the hell does it take so long to build things nowadays anyway, with better technology? Especially a small stadium? They started in 2009. You'd think it would be an advantage.[It's obviously not one for the Raiders either]. I don't care, it just looks stupid playing football on a baseball field. Plus, before the Dolphins moved into this stadium they went to 5 super bowls and had one of the biggest home-field advantages. Since then they've played in one AFC championship game. I'm hoping they turn this into a real football stadium and bring some of that back. Good news is they seem to have plans to move the seats closer on their own dime.
Haha true. I've been there though and felt safe! Whatever, the Dolphins only have to play 2 regular season games with the dirt. Two primetime games against our 2 biggest rivals in front of millions of people, but still. Unless they can change the field in one day before the Pats game, which they probably can. Then it's just one game. Anyway, about the game, the offense was sloppy, but Thigpen actually had a good quote saying it's good that they got to see the worst conditions the stadium has to offer in week 1 of the pre-season. I agree, at least they have that experience now, and still got a win thanks to strong defense. It's still a whole other ballgame when the regular season starts though. And those are probably the worst conditions you can play in period. The snow is easier to play in, and that's possible when they play the Jets in December and Patriots in January. So, if they could get through a rainy, sloppy, muddy field, they can play in the snow. Snow and football seem to go together anyway. Ronnie looked great too, so if he can stay healthy all season[please!] imagine what he'll do in normal conditions.
I'm thinking they can. I know there was recently a Brazil-USA soccer game at the new Meadowlands stadium, and they put that field down the day of the game.[I think, maybe the day before, I'm pretty sure it was the day of though.] Either way they did it fast. I dont know how different getting rid of a baseball field would be. And I guess we're all assuming the Marlins wont make the playoffs? haha, does seem unlikely.
This is true. That infield is totally embarrassing. Every year I have to get ****t from people for the Dolphins having a field like that. It is a huge relief when that dirt goes away. Until then the field is a wreck IMO. You are also right that Ross should be embarrassed by that eyesore. It is sad the Dolphins don't have their own stadium.
A post of convenience....... Was it the same conditions? I think not. Here was our first possession. Now please go find me ONE picture of Tampa having possession of the ball DURING a down pour ON THE INFIELD. You will not find it. Why? Because it did not happen. If there is one consistent thing you will see in ALL of our starters pictures it will be mud under their feet. But you have contended that they drove right through it. No, they took one snap from the infield. One snap from balls that have not been through the muck. You do know that teams supply their own balls right? One snap. When they took that one snap, their QB dropped back to GRASS. He threw a pass to a fade route ON GRASS. Somehow our boneheaded defensive back allowed a FADE to be caught while playing MAN coverage. Zero points and dropped footballs: How many quarters are there in football? Do you think there might be some reason as to why teams switch goals to defend at the end of each quarter? Do you think that the switch may have to do with balance for the entirey of a football game? Now here is the most important question. Do you think the Dolphins offense got a fair shake in comparison to the Bucs offense in that ONE QUARTER OF FOOTBALL? Hmmmm...... Inable to pass a wet ball but balls were dropped. I'll let that statement stand on it's own. Why not? The conviction seems so decisive. Who said that? End of story? Really? There is so much WRONG in that single statement. I'll start with the fact that OUR GUYS actually won the game. No, no. As a matter of fact I would suggest that they do not practice again for the remainder of the season. ............and I guarantee that the team doesn't dismiss the fact that the starting offense that was scheduled to play ONE QUARTER had to play that quarter in three to four inches of mud
This is a frekin excellent post... as far as first team offenses go in the preseason, your arguement that there was an unfair advantage is pretty damn good.
All true Deej, which is why the arms crossed "harrumphs" are a bit overwrought in my eyes. Now the penalties, the bad snap, those were easily controllable by first team talent, and yet weren't, you know things are a bit outta whack when Jake Long has a false start penalty. 6 days until the next game AND Training Camp is blacked out on Aug 18th, no longer open to the public.
alright than Pod, your admitting that there were mistakes and sloppy play that were not related to the elements? The question is, was this sloppy play out of the ordinary relative to how this team is perceived to practice.
