He still got a huge payday and hasn't done anything yet. I have nothing against Dez, but your point that he took alittle less is irrelevent
maybe this will be step two http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/sh...do-awful-awful-things-to-the-h?urn=nfl-181667
or this 3. Payback is a ***** Car on Blocks There’s a rule that even non-NFL players know – do what the Vets tell you. I guess OT Chris Colmer didn’t get that message. In 2005, FB Mike Alstott asked the rookie to get him a Gatorade. Colmer decided to be a wise guy and drew a map to the fridge for Alstott instead. As redemption, Alstott took the wheels off of Colmer’s car and left a map on the windshield to where the tires were. http://amog.com/sports/5-greatest-nfl-pranks-rookie/
You're a rookie. You do it. He was drafted to play football, but you can't play football by yourself. it's a team. There are unspoken rules and traditions. He wanted to show to everyone in the world he was ready. Everyone but his teammates, the most important ones.
This is so dumb. It's SHOULDER PADS. It's not like he told Roy Williams to go f*ck himself. He just refused to carry his shoulder pads. If the players on the Dallas Cowboys let this dumbass incident effect the way they think about Bryant, then this team is going no where. He said all the right things. "I'm not doing it," Bryant said. "I feel like I was drafted to play football, not carry another player's pads." "If I was a free agent, it would still be the same thing. I just feel like I'm here to play football. I'm here to try to help win a championship, not carry someone's pads. I'm saying that out of no disrespect to [anyone]." Ah, but you didn't carry his shoulder pads. Obviously, he's a diva. Without William's having someone to carry his shoulder pads, the Cowboys might miss the playoffs. I mean, who cares if Bryant wins the number 2 spot over Williams, and wins ROTY, right?
Just maybe Dez Bryant is the Pro, grown up, came ready to play, Adult here! Just maybe we will again be sorry to pass on a WR with a so called Diva outlook that will go into the record books, hmm! Randy Moss, anyone??? Beware the guy that believes the following: "Your Bonus Money won't help you now!" - Chucky
Eh, it has been a looonnng offseason JS, especially after 09 when we had won the AFCE, the 09 season left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. I do think it speaks volumes about what the Vets think of Pat White when guys like Ricky Williams say positive things about his play, his play may still be poor, but the Vets must like him. As for Bias against Dez Bryant, nope, that would is unreasonable dislike for someone based on something they cannot control, however I do have a decent enough memory and Queenie went after Jeff Ireland, which has put him into the background even more than he usually is. Irish did those post draft day pressers, then has not done a single interview since then as he doesn't want to distract from the Team, so the way I see it, Bryant has relegated me to listening to Irish interviews from 2009. So in that sense, I'm kinda hoping this ***** gets blowed up out on the field as this isn't OSU anymore, perhaps Deon should text the boy genius that factoid?
By not carrying the pads like every rookie has too, he not only told Williams to go f*ck himself, he told every vet on that team to go f*ck themselves. And that is the problem and real issue. But hey, I'm biased.
I think the thing we are missing here is that, while yes, Dez in probably right in saying I dont have to be treated like that, and he's got every right to refuse to do it, the thing is, its happened forever, its tradition. Its part of the "code" of the game. Amongst the veterans in that locker room, theyre going to view it as disrespect to the team, and to the veterans and the guys who have paid their dues in the league, and in that locker room. While Dez's choice may have been the "right" one, its not going to be the right one amongst his teammates. Theres an interesting book I'm reading right now that talks about alot of these things. Which you can find here: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Football-Code-Footballs-Unwritten-Ignore-at-Your-Own-Risk/dp/1600781756/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1280144582&sr=8-1"]http://www.amazon.com/Football-Code-Footballs-Unwritten-Ignore-at-Your-Own-Risk/dp/1600781756/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1280144582&sr=8-1[/ame] . It talks alot about the circle of respect in the game. This move from Dez, completely violates that. Anyone who thinks it doesn't, is a bit off base IMO, and probably in the opinion of all the former players and greats that have contributed to that book. Its a respect thing, and Dez isn't going to earn any, if he's not going to give it. That being said, he's doing the right thing, by showing up early, and working hard. So that's going to count for something as well.
Rookie hazing is a part of team building in the NFL. Just like in our offices, there are certain things done to build teamwork. Hazing just happens to be one way the NFL does it. They tell stories of it when they get old and gray. Dez Bryant's actions don't say that he's necessarily a diva. What it does say is that, "I'm an individual." In a sport that thrives on teamwork and an almost symbiotic relationship with the men around you, teamwork is important. While I don't think this is a deal breaker, this does shed light on the fact that Dez Bryant is staking his claim that he is an individual. Surely he'll make sure he goes to charity golf tournaments and Cowboys functions that aren't on the football field. Just a youngster not seeing the big picture from my standpoint. You're a millionaire. Carrying someon's pads isn't going to make you less of a man or take any money out of your pocket.
I really don't think this proves Dez is a diva, but he's not exactly starting off on the right foot. Will reserve any judgment until I see what he does on the field in games.
Yeah, who is Williams ?? It's not like he's ever been a star or an elite player... The 'Boys paid a kings' ransom for him in both money and picks and he's been mediocre at best....Now if Romo threw him his pads, that might be different...
Pure speculation. Being the first one to sign doesn't mean he took less money. He could have set the bar high. Imagine the person drafted before him signed first to even less money. He would have received less then.
I think everyone is taking it way to seriously, breaking it down, they are grown men, but it is still a game, men playing a kids game, the same goes for any sport. These guys will live and breathe with the same people for the next month+, dorm rooms, curfews, 2 a days, etc etc..They need something to pass the time, this is what they do, play prankes, and joke around...calling it stupid or whatever, is our opinion, however it is true all teams do some sort of rookie hazing whatever it may be, so apparently it isnt to them u know?? What about when you see the rookies get up, in front of everybody during lunch or dinner, and they all sing?? It isnt about being anybodys *****, it is about taking a break from the very intense, stressful act of not getting cut.....I dont see a problem with it, and if I was a 1st round rookie beast like Dez, I'd do it.....if you cant loosen up now in TC, will you in the playoffs?
. Wow at some of these responses. This has to be the lamest attempt at a rookie hazing ever. Just carry the ****ing pads and be glad you weren't taped to the goal post. Sent from my HERO200 using Tapatalk
My guess is anyone that has played a team sport a very competitive level gets why Dez needed to suck it up and carry the pads. Anyone who hasn't played a team sport at a very competitve level probably doesn't get it.
Never understood why you'd have a guy carry your pads. They're pads, it isn't like they're difficult to carry.
I'd disagree with you on this one. If this wasn't Dez Bryant and was another WR that was drafted in the league, would the same reactions be made? Or is it b/c it's Dez Bryant? If the dude doesn't want to carry the pads, he doesn't have to. I've seen people say this is team bonding. Making someone carry your equipment unites teammates how? Who said it has anything to do with him being special? He doesn't want to do it, so he won't. If anything, for now at least, he's showing he's got the balls to tell Williams to go F himself.
If anything I'd say that since these guys are QBs, it makes a little bit of a difference. Clausen will at some point be the leader of the Panthers and Tebow with Denver. If those dudes refuse to participate in the hazing, I could see it being much worse than Bryant.
It's only about Dez Bryant because he's the one going against decades of tradition. Nobody wants to be part of team hazing but everyone has to go through it. The act of carrying the pads isn't what bonds a team, it's the tradition of rookies "paying their dues" to the vets, just like the vets had to when they were rookies. By not caring the pads, Dez is telling every vet on that team "I'm better than you." It really is a slap in the face to every veteran on that team and I really don't understand how guys don't see that.
The point of 'hazing' is for an individual to momentarily put aside his self pride to prove he wants to be part of something larger than himself. Is it OK for Dez Bryant to refuse to do this? Sure. But I'm certain there are guys in that locker who don't respect what he's doing.
While I don't particularly agree with the me-against-the-world mentality of Dez's, Roy Williams is nobody with any weight to throw around in that locker room anyway.
Overall it strikes me as a very diva thing to do, but at the same time I'm 90% certain it had a lot more to do with WHO asked him, how he asked him, and how Roy Williams has been treating Dez Bryant to this point. People want to talk about whether or not Dez Bryant MIGHT establish himself as a diva receiver in the NFL. Well, Roy Williams already is a full blown diva. You just don't necessarily read about his antics in the national newspapers. I remember reading his quotes in an article when Miles Austin was in the middle of this incredible run and the Cowboys are winning games and here is Roy Williams whinning in the papers about how "for some reason the #2 is getting all the balls thrown at him and the #1 isn't." Seriously? What an effing a-hole. Miles Austin is the most humble freaking guy, has all this physical ability, worked his way from tiny little Monmouth college to the Cowboys' practice squad, worked his way up through special teams and he's starting to show that he's a #1 receiver in this league, but here's Roy Williams trying to publicly assure Miles and everyone else that HIS underachieving @ss is the top dog around there. Except he's not. Not even close. Comeuppance is a b-tch, that's what I say. If anyone deserves to have a hot shot rookie come in and not only steal his job, but refuse to lower his eyes at him even once, refuse to carry his pads, refuse to do anything but work hard and play football...it's Roy Williams.
Exactly. It's about proving you're willing to put the team above self. Whether it's shoulder pad carrying, doing someone's laundry, drinking until you puke, whatever, the point is to test whether a player/person will surrender their ego at the door and pledge their loyalty to the brotherhood/team. Obviously, Bryant feels his ego is more important than being accepted as part of this team, and is sharting the bed before the covers have even been pulled down for the night. Bad move by Bryant, and in hindsight, good move by us.
agreed, Roy Williams is in fact losing his job to Dez I believe, but I think him asking Dez comes down to position.....Qb's carry Qb's stuff, LB's do Lb's.....Williams is the veteran of that corp....I wonder what would have happened if Austin told him to do it...
That is perzactly what he is doing! He is exhibiting his focus on his own ego rather than the team (and league from the time it began) traditions. Organizations are built on their traditions. If they have none, it shows. What Bryant is basically saying is "Up Yours!" Fine way to begin with a team, that is.
wonder what we did to vontae, jake long and what we'll do to odrick. its funny but parcells used to have the first rounder bring him water in during breaks in practice. can you imagine Dez saying no to Parcells?
Think about it though, the whole thing is one big ego trip, from the vets thinking they can make someone do something, to a rookie refusing....it goes on everywhere... I wonder if Dez will try and make a rookie carry his pads in 4 years.....if he does try, than he is a douche, like if you dont want to participate, then fine, but dont ever participate.....I wonder if he is trying to shake that whole "diva" persona that was built up in the media...
No and I don't imagine Dez Bryant imagines himself saying no to bringing Bill Parcells some water as a rookie hazing thing. I don't know if it's always supposed to be position on position. The Dolphins veterans usually all leave their pads on the field and the rookies as a group run around and pick them up and bring them inside. There's a story quoted above about Steve Smith hazing Jimmy Clausen. Another story about Mike Alstott telling an OL Chris Colmer to bring him something from the fridge. But leave it to Roy Williams who knows he's losing his job to Dez Bryant, to walk directly up to Bryant and try and hand him his shoulder pads. And Roy's probably said some bad sh-t long before then.
yeah CK right I agree, Roy is kinda desperate right now, trying to get into Dez's head......athletically I believe Roy know Dez has got him there, however Roy knows he can get into Dez's head maybe, so he is trying.... I would have carried his pads, and then clowned him while I was doing it, getting back into his head, about a rookie taking his job....
LOL Who said anything about them being better? The Lions went 0-16 with Calvin Johnson. Assuming Romo resumes his usual vacationing/golfing, they ain't goin' nowhere
