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Brian Hartline: Newest Dolphin in Trouble???

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jupiterfin, Jul 13, 2010.

  1. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Come on he lines up across from marshall he's just trying to take any tension off marshall to start the new season.:)
     
  2. jupiterfin

    jupiterfin Mild Irritant

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    Jackie Childs? Is that you?
     
  3. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    So why not grab your cell phone and call for help instead of fleeing. because the person driving that truck was more than likely intoxicated. Just because alcohol wasn't found in the vehicle doesn't mean it wasn't in their system. A vehicle abandoned at a crash scene looks bad. I'm sure the police think the same they just won't be able to prove it.
     
  4. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    If I were him I would say I left my keys with crowder and left for Ohio.
     
  5. ckparrothead

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    Just because I didn't find you with a murder weapon, motive and murder victim, doesn't mean you're not a murderer.
     
  6. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Why do you assume they needed help?
     
  7. opfinistic

    opfinistic Braaaaains!

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    Unless you are in a court of law.
     
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  8. PhinsRock

    PhinsRock Premium Member Luxury Box

    If I were so drunk I crashed my car, I don't think I'd be in any condition to run away.

    Hope this doesn't result in a suspension from football.
     
  9. Da-PhinZ

    Da-PhinZ New Member

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    Nice Seinfeld drop and I thinks its Jackie Chiles

    And just because someone got in a accident, it means they must call the police? I didn't read that in my drivers handbook. How do you know they he was not already trying to contact the owners, or that insurance companies were taking care of it? And the last time I checked the car was abandoned on the side of the road, someone could have been pulling over, it was dark and said person(s) hit the abandoned car. Seriously this is most likely gong to fall through the cracks, just something to talk about when there is nothing to talk about. You can keep stipulating that he or she was drunk but until its proven (which would be pretty hard to do), your words are as good as a Jets Jason Taylor jersey to a Dolfan or a Lebron heat jersey to a cavs fan.
     
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  10. Gitrdone

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    Doesn't matter what anything means, all that matters is what can be proven. And in this case, they can't prove he was drinking, or even the driver of the vehicle unless he admits it.

    So with what you said, yes it means the person is not a murderer until proven otherwise in a court of law. The old "Innocent until proven guilty" bit. Good luck to them proving he was driving under the influence.
     
  11. brandon27

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    Please tell me this isnt serious... damnit Hartline!!

    :tantrum:
     
  12. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    For all we know it could have been his wife driving. Hitting a parked abandoned vech sounds so woman driver'ish (says the man with the mother who backed up over a parked motorcycle).
     
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  13. jdang307

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    It's safe to say if there is a pool nearby, and you come into the house all wet, that you were just in the pool.

    It isn't 100%, but it's quite close that if you abandon a car after it hits something. You were intoxicated or doing something else illegal. That's all anyone is saying. Nobody is saying he can be convicted of it. there is no evidence. But that's probably what it was.
     
  14. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Logic and reason? In mah Phins site?
     
  15. CaribPhin

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    Fixed :up:
     
  16. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    Seems like it's one thing after another this offseason. You would have thought after Ronnie and Will's DUIs that the coach would have put out a zero tolerance policy or something to prevent these things from happening. Stop for a moment and imagine that there were people inside the Cadillac. Not only could Hartline have been killed or injured other people could have been as well. This could have been a season/career ending accident. What is it going to take for people to be 100% dedicated to the team and not make these stupid decisions? Excuse me but its ****ing ridiculous. We have become the new Bengals.
     
  17. ckparrothead

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    If the illegal thing is abandoning the car itself, yes.

    Otherwise this assumption is kind of ridiculous.
     
  18. Stringer Bell

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    Sounds like Hartline was the victim of a stolen vehicle.
     
  19. ckparrothead

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    Dude, relax. Car accidents happen, and we don't even know that he was driving it or even in town.

    If this is the incident that draws the public's ire at the Dolphins for allowing their players to get away with whatever they want in the off season, as Dave Hyde recently proposed on Sid's show...then it is truly the straw that broke the camel's back.
     
  20. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Miami has ALWAYS had a long history of player issues. David Overstreet and Rusty Chambers were killed in horrific accidents. Irving Spikes was arrested for beating his wife, Mercury Morris and Sammy Smith were both arrested in separate drug raids, and Larry Gordon died mysteriously.
    (...and this is just off the top of my head in my forth decade as a Dol-fan.) Everyone needs to relax: it's just God's way of saying "you have one hell of a good team on your hands!"
     
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  21. The Rev

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    Until things get cleared up, I'm going to change the title of this thread. We don't want to assume guilt for someone until they are charged. :wink2:
     
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  22. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    Car accidents that happen at 4:30am are almost always alcohol related. A lot of the time there are fatalities involved. The car is Brian's. Whoever was driving left the scene....basically admitting guilt in the process. Why else would someone leave unless they were intoxicated? So if someone else was driving, don't you think they would have came forward by now and admitted guilt to protect their friend/family member/etc? Brian has more to lose in this situation than anyone else.
     
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  23. finsincebirth

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    I think it is that law, that if you get in an major accident you have to file a police report. I remember two years ago I got into a car accident when I hit a deer that ran in front of the road. It totaled the front of my car and rendered it undrivable, so I left it on the side of the road and got a ride home from my dad. When we tried to get my car towed home the next morning we were told the driver couldn't legally tow the car home unless an accident report had been filed.
     
  24. jdang307

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    You think the assumption that someone who ran away from the car and still has yet to report it a week later was doing something illegal, is ridiculous?

    They abandoned the car, and it's been a week, and the driver of the car has yet to come forward. I mean, how weird are the facts of this story?

    The crash happened July 3rd, they still had not heard from hartline 10 days later? The attorney calls to tell them Hartline was not injured? if he wasn't driving then of course he wasn't. If he was driving where the hell is he?

    The only thing ridiculous is trying to fight the assumption he wasn't drunk or high off his ***. or both.
     
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  25. jdang307

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    I think it common knowledge you get in a car accident you don't leave ever. if nobody is there you leave a note, or notify the authorities. It's been ten days and you ask how do we know if he hasn't tried to contact the owners? Or that insurance companies were taking care of it?

    Come on guys. i know he's one of ours, but this is borderline ridiculous the excuses we're trying to come up with. I think it's pretty safe to assume 10 days later he isnt trying to contact anyone about it. I'm not saying Brian is the guy. It could definitely be someone else who drove it. It could be that woman that answered the door when they came knocking. We're nto saying it's a certainty, but there is a HIGH probability that whoever was driving it was drunk. Or else you stay, you call the cops, you let the insurance company handle it. You don't run into the bushes and call someone to pick you up :pointlol:
     
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  26. funkdat

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    The big picture is nothing is going to happen to Brian because of the way the laws are in FL.In the Future their will be laws passed, to get people to stop doing this, but tell then some will do this.

    In the court of public opinion Brian was three sheets to the wind and knew about the loophole in the law and got out of there,Or he's covering for a friend that did it........and if that's the case,then he doesn't mind people thinking he was three sheets to the wind.

    Ether way no one got hurt, and the way the laws are, nothing is going to happen.Hopefully next time Brian or his " friend " won't drive drunk.
     
  27. I've always wondered... what exactly IS a "hand basket," and how does that work, LOL??? ;)
     
  28. Disnardo

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    It might sound stupid, but TO never got in trouble with the law, not that I remember...

    TO no matter how bad a relationship with his team mates was never seemed to get into trouble outside the playing field... am I right????

    and NO matter how the Harline legal team handles this, this does sound very strange and almost 2 weeks after it happend...

    Will see what kind of turmoil this causes our rising WR during the season...
     
  29. Califin

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    A fitting metaphor as far as placing him in the vehicle, if he was found dazed, and desheveled, nursing a sore knee, while on foot along any roadway within a two mile radius of the scene...yet even this would provide more incriminating detail.

    If there was a pool nearby, is it in his backyard, or next door?

    Were there any kids playing nearby with a hose, or merely a lounge chair draped with a soggy towel?

    Is he wearing swim trunks, or sweats?

    Do I think he crashed his truck?
    Based on is attorney's response,
    "who told authorities that Brian Hartline was not injured",
    his refusal to step up and immediately disassociate his client from any connection with the accident, in my view, concedes he had on swim trunks.

    Do I think he was drunk?
    Knowing how it would obviously be interpreted by the public, and yet refusing to offer any other plausible excuse, all but suggests to me he was not only within a two mile radius of the scene, nursing a sore knee, but just as likely a near empty, bottle of JD.
     
  30. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    bump........case closed.....nice....got lucky!!

    Coach Tony Sparano indicated that the case involving Brian Hartline's abandoned truck has been closed by the Florida Highway Patrol.

    He apparently won't be in hot water for fleeing the scene of an accident after all. Hartline was issued a citation, paid a fine, and the matter has been "put to bed." We have no idea what Hartline said to the authorities when he finally did speak to them, but whatever it was worked like a charm.

    http://twitter.com/MikeBerardino/statuses/19919558944
     
  31. jdang307

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    They have no evidence. There is nothing to pin him DUI wise. It's smart to run after. Even though you do it after something stupid. At that point, it's the smartest thing to do self preservation wise.

    Wonder how long he hid in the woods for a ride.
     
  32. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    right?!?!?! thats a thug move kinda....get bent, crash car, stab out in the woods, call gf for a ride, go home and do the wild thang :up:
     
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  33. ckparrothead

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    If what I hear is correct then he wasn't charged with that misdemeanor at all, but an even more minor traffic citation. $115 fine and no points on his license? Puhleez.
     

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