Schefter reports it's a six year, $60m extension with $34.8m guaranteed. Ferguson is now under contract for 8 years and $73.6m. Here's hoping for a nice rivalry between Ferguson and Wake.
30 million in guarntees that doesnt go to the better player in Revis...this is a win for Miami....God I hope there is a cap next year...the Jets are going to have to off load everybody...
Revis is overrated. Take away his safety binky and he's human. Hell, he's human even with the constant safety help.
That's some big-boy money there. Mostly what this does is screw Mangold and especially Revis. Love it. Its going to be interesting in NY this time next year.
Emote all you want, it's true. Revis on his own is good, but not an island. Revis with safety help is better, but still not an island. Revis with two helpers is better still, but has been known to get beaten by the likes of Randy Moss and Ted Ginn. The title of "best cornerback in football" is a close call between Nnamdi Asomugha and Charles Woodson. Revis is on the outside looking in on that discussion.
I will think he is human when he turns human....Revis has proved to be an outstanding CB, he shut down everybody last year, except Ginn hahahah wtf!!?!?!? anyway they picked the 3rd on the list of priorities to throw 30 milly too.....I am psyched...
I think Revis is the real deal. D'Brick is not. We'll see how D'Brick does without Faneca covering his ***. He was average, at best, before Faneca arrived. That is a fact.
He is getting paid more than Long PS17, happy ur team tossed money around like Steinbenner...? More than Long really?? The deal includes $34.8 million in guarantees. Already under contract for two more years, Ferguson will receive $73.6 million over the next eight years, topping Jake Long's five-year, $57 million deal.
Except his own defensive coordinator admits he's getting help. Revis Island only exists if you conveniently set aside the facts that Revis is not acting alone and that he gets beaten at the worst possible time for his team. Nnamdi Asomugha is more of an island than Revis is, considering that he basically shuts down half of the field on a terrible Raiders defense. More related to the topic though, Ferguson isn't in the Thomas/Long/Clady category of elite LTs. He's in the second tier with guys like Oher, Gaither, and Baker.
everybody gets help at one point or another during the course of a season, no CB goes the entire season without help every now and then...does Nmandi gets less sure....I agree with that....
Yep, that's what I think. That's a hell of a lot of money to throw at the guy. Now they get to figure out how to pay the important guys in Mangold and Revis, AND re-sign 20 FA's after the season. Loving every minute of it.
yeah bro that was the original point, money to Ferguson instead of those 2, is such a huge plus for Miami.....plus Mangold, and Harris as well?? They alienated the 2 people that are demanding the most....in Revis, and Mangold.... Fine by me!!
Except Revis gets help all the time. We're not talking about the occasional play once every so often, but as a matter of defensive schematic.
With all due respect, this is all irrelevent. Revis is the best CB available to the Jestsss. He is far and away better than anybody else on their roster....and better than any of the CB's on our team for that matter. They don't have a choice, they HAVE to resign him. Their entire defensive scheme is crap without him. Dansby isn't the top MLB in the league, but I have zero issue with us paying him what we did. We will be much better in the long run.
The jest are working out deals to win this year and this year alone. Too bad for them when they internally erupt.
Really? You think Sexy Rexy can continuously throw the entire linebacking crew after the QB with the baby maker and some rookie at CB? Stop drinking the kool aid brother. Revis might not be the best CB in the league, but he is definately the best in our division and top 5.
I think Revis specifically is helped by the Jets' scheme, inasmuch as the defensive coordinator has said it. Players who watched tape on the Jets confirmed it. Ochostinko in particular laid a press bomb when he said Revis was getting safety help--the NY media didn't like that too much, because the Revis Island myth had already been born. Please point out where I've contradicted this notion. I've said that Revis is on the outside looking in at the top two CBs in the NFL, Asomugha and Woodson. That means Revis is the third best CB in the NFL, which puts him in the top five. He's very good on his own, but the fact is that he gets safety help so often that they might as well the same jersey, siamese twin style.
I guess I don't understand your arguement? Were saying the same things. As Gardenhead said, no man is an island. The Jestsss however are seriously hosed if they don't sign Revis.....and In the grand scheme of things, with as much as they are going to have to pay him, they are screwed even if they do.
My argument is that Revis cannot be the best cornerback in the game if he's consistently getting help as a matter of defensive scheme. It's like saying Steve Breaston is a good wide receiver because he had Larry Fitzgerald drawing coverage on one side and Anquan Boldin drawing coverage on the other. Just because you've got help that makes you look better doesn't mean you actually are that good. Asomugha is the best CB in the NFL. Charles Woodson is a close second. They comprise the top tier of NFL CBs. Revis is at the top of the second tier.
Hopefully. Wake's got to get on teh field more. EVERYONE has help against Randy Moss. If you're a DC and you are not running bracket coverage against Randy Moss, you deserve a pink slip and a kick in the ***. I wouldn't run with the fact that Revis had help against a player in a single game. He's pretty damn good IMO. He and Asomugha are right up there.
that is just silly talk. Revis is Amazing, I could only hope that either of our young DBs can evolve into having the skill set he pocesses. If he was ion our team we would be calling hiom Key Revis. with that being said Asomugha, Revis, Bailey(older) and woodson(older) are in the top. and right behind them are the Halls, clements. But those four have elite talent and there should be no question about that. as far as the signing, wtf are the jets thinking. Revis Harris, Mangold, and they r going to need to sign a RB when there Lt dreams go down the drain, they r f$%#ed edit: who else do they need to sign in the future?...Holmes
Clady's not with Thomas and Long either IMO. Those two guys are up there alone. Besides that, I think that the Jets did overpay for Ferguson but its something that they, IMO, had to do. They had to pay a guy. Once you get a good left tackle, you don't let him walk IMO. You keep him. You're probably going to overpay but it's going to happen because of the position he plays. They never come cheap.
Not to mention when Greene gets hurt.....again. I had a list of players that will be FA's after this year. Along with Mangold and Revis, I believe it includes 18 other players....and yes Crayon Edwards is one...as is David Harris IIRC. They really are set up with a one year window of opportunity.
I'd love to agree with what you're saying, but Revis was a top 3 corner with Mangini at the helm Not only is he a great cover corner, but he tackles like a linebacker and rarely ever gives up YAC. I certainly think he's overrated and his asking of 20M per year is proof of that, but I don't think Charles Woodson is anywhere near where Revis is now
Charles Woodson is pretty damn good IMO. I think anyone could put in a good argument that he was the best cornerback the last two years. He can do anything and everything. I've seen the guy line up at safety in the middle of a game because the original starter got injured and Charles did well. He's very, very good IMO.
Awesome, the better LT is now a bargain, I'm glad we got him when we did. Except Vontae Davis for some reason. And he still managed to outjump Moss twice.(and got burned a couple of times but he he's a rookie who's Safety "help" was Gigarbage.)
I was too excited about Bosh and Wade to pay attention to anything else. You're lucky that post is legible.
The best... in your opinion. The thing that sets Revis worlds apart from the other two is his ability to shut down the number one the #1 opposing receiver every week. How did Woodson's great playmaking ability help Green Bay in the Playoffs? Similarly, how did Revis' lockdown coverage help NY in the Playoffs?
Like Desides said, Revis didn't do it alone. He ALWAYS had help. Revis is great, but a large part of his success has to do with how great of a schemer Rex Ryan is.
Except it's not just Randy Moss, my man. He has help all the time. If there's a Revis Island, it has a CB and an S on it, not a CB and a WR. I disagree. Clady is a franchise LT. Even if you don't think he's up with Thomas and Long you've got to put him at at the head of the next tier down. That guy is excellent. They could have paid Mangold and saved money. Why does no one read what I post? Seriously, why? I said Revis is the third best corner and took issue with the "Revis is #1" and "Revis Island" BS. He is not the best corner in football and he is not an island.
Slightly off topic, and I will comment on it in a minute, but if the defensive scheme is built around Revis and that's what's needed to make him as good as he is then that's a successful coaching job by their defensive co-ordinator and those things have to be taken into account as good planning. With that said, I don't count him among the best CB's in the league (Asomugha, Woodson like you said), but I do count him among the better CB's in the league. Schematically or not he's getting the job done and will provide major issues for us. Except he'll need more help because of Brandon Marshall Hello Brian Hartline and Davone Bess. Now, onto the topic, finyak pretty much has this covered, but I was watchinig NFLN yesterday and took notes (you know football is an obsession at that point) Ok D Ferg locked up. Revis locked up. Mangold Harris - "Harris, who is making $550,000 this year, will be the lowest-paid defensive starter." http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2010/07/jets_reach_contract_agreement.html people have feelings - why him, and why not me? mangold is a center, so if anyone isn't going to get their payday... this time of year next year? hell yeah!
yeah he is under contract bro, but underpaid and has made a stink about, it is a problem, and they said they are trying to restructure it as to give him a pay raise for this year...but locked up like Ferguson, not yet
