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Face facts, Jets, LaDainian is pretty much LaDone

Discussion in 'AFC East Rivals' started by Ronnie Bass, Jun 20, 2010.

  1. phineas64

    phineas64 Season Ticket Holder

    I don't think Jones is irreplaceable, but you replaced him with LT, who will be a 3rd down back will make around $5 million this year. Greene could be very good this year, but it looks like a downgrade on the RB unit as a whole. Jones/Greene/Washington became Greene/LT/McKnight. If I was a Jets fan, I wouldn't like it. But since I'm not, I'm ok with it. :lol:
     
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  2. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    When was the last time LT did anything against us anyway? Why would he start now?
     
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  3. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    Hate to dig up an old thread, but there is a ton of fail in here :lol: Anyone care to admit they might have been wrong about LT being done? :tongue2:

    The author of the Post article couldn't have been any more wrong.
     
  4. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, he sure did beat up on the Bills good!


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  5. alen1

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    I think its fair to say LaDainian Tomlinson has looked good. He looks fresh and energized.
     
  6. gilv13

    gilv13 Well-Known Member

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    It was the Bills. Shonne Greene also had a good day as well. That should tell you something about Buffalo's run D yesterday.
     
  7. MikeHoncho

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    A corpse running behind that offensive line against that run "defense" would have done the same thing.
     
  8. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    He was averaging over 5 ypc before the Bills game.

    Balt: 11 for 62 5.6 avg, 2 for 16 receiving
    NE: 11 for 76 6.9 avg, 4 for 26 receiving
    MIA: 15 for 70 4.7 avg, 3 for 18 receiving
     
  9. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    Admittedly he has looked he is running to prove something.
     
  10. BicketyBam

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    See my previous post. It's not like he was doing nothing before this game.

    So are you saying he is still "done"?
     
  11. MikeHoncho

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    Nope, it was a compliment to corpses everywhere.
     
  12. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    8/0 as of right now. Sanchez is doing fine without the "support" of TJ.
     
  13. MikeHoncho

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    Yep. Dude's evolved. And I'm not being sarcastic. He's been set up to succeed and is getting the job done.
     
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  14. BicketyBam

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    I can understand GB not rushing for a ton of yards against the Bills, but how did MIA *only* rush for 132 when NE and the NY rushed for over 200?
     
  15. MikeHoncho

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    Because it's all we needed to win the game.
     
  16. BicketyBam

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    And healthy, knock wood. Hopefully he stays that way.

    For the record, I thought he was done as well. It took me 4 games to feel that he can definitely get the job done. He just can't be a feature back at age 31.
     
  17. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    LT has been very good. I wanted to draft him in my fantasy league but the way it broke it didn't work out. I also tried to trade for him later to no avail. I just have no faith in Green. Green is a physical specimen who will give you the occasional "wow" play, but seems to lack the instincts to be a star back. And I also don't trust Green's ability to stay healthy. He is a more fragile version of RB. By comparison, Brown seems like an iron man.
     
  18. BicketyBam

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    I just figured Ricky/Ronnie would have averaged more than a combined 4.1 ypc - not that 4.1 ypc is bad. It's just that the Buffalo run defense is horrible.

    Maybe Buffalo just played harder, being it was their home opener.
     
  19. MikeHoncho

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  20. Stringer Bell

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    He looks great, but the question is, can he stay healthy?
     
  21. BicketyBam

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    I don't know what to make of Greene. I agree that he seems to be injury prone, even though he has made it through 4 games in one piece so far. Even with Greene's big day at Buffalo, he is only 22nd in rushing yards (with some players yet to play). His 4.3 ypc is better than what it was prior to BUF.

    Check this out:

    Thomas Jones: 52/217/4.2
    Greene: 52/223/4.3

    Talk about similiar numbers!
     
  22. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I pretty much nailed it...:lol: however I will predict somemore....If they keep using him this much he will slow.....He has been everything they could ask for....and more....however when Oct turns to November, it isnt San Diego 75 degree weather he will be playing in...lets see how he holds up BB.....
     
  23. rafael

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    Greene does have one more game though. I think that so far Greene has shown himself to be about a 3.5-3.6 per carry back. The showing against Buffalo looks like the anomaly.
     
  24. BicketyBam

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    He is averaging 14 rushes and 3 receptions per game. I am not sure how many total plays he is in on per game. Do you think 14 rushes is too much? Should it be 10 or less?
     
  25. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    The number of games doesn't mean a thing. Rushing attempts are the exact same.

    I don't know about him being a 3.5 per carry back. Last year he rushed 108 times for 540 yards, which is 5.0 ypc. I think the jury is still out on him.

    FWIW, TJ averaged 3.6, 4.5 and 4.2 in the 3 years he was with the Jets.
     
  26. rafael

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    IMO it means that Greene is more of a change of pace guy while Thomas is the main guy in KC. They started the season with even carries between Jones and Charles, but the last two games Jones has received the bulk of the carries. In NY, Greene was expected to be the main guy, but he has been relegated to the back-up role.
     
  27. BicketyBam

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    Through 4 games:

    LT: 56 car 341 yards 6.1 ypc
    Greene: 52 car 223 yards 4.3 ypc

    Through 4 games last year:

    TJ: 61 car 229 yards 3.75 ypc
    Washington: 45 car 181 yards 4.02 ypc

    I wouldn't call Greene's role a backup role. He is basically splitting time. Last year, through 4 games, you could say TJ was the primary back and Leon was the change of pace back. But when you look at their carries per game in the first 4, it was the 4th game that really swayed the carries in TJ's favor:

    Game 1 Jones 20 car, Washington 15 car
    Game 2 Jones 14 car, Washington 14 car
    Game 3 Jones 14 car, Washington 12 car
    Game 4 Jones 13 car, Washington 4 car

    Interesting stuff.
     
  28. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Well there is a first time for everything I guess.
     

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