This humbled Terrell Owens person you seek simply doesn't exist, the only NFL player with that name needs to continue to fade away into the landscape of life.
Do I know you newbie? How's things Conu? As for TO, depends I've read a report that TO has declined but can play outside of being guarded by anyone but Revis. Crappy Qb play didn't help either.
"To get this ******* stadium I had to bring him in" Does one suppose that was not the view Stephen Ross may hold? In vino veritas amigo, imho a new stadium is the real game here" Padre......"No one can understand the depths of you." I think that thought about Ross is a brilliant projection... P.S....NO TO T.O.......He would take the dynamic and identity this young team is building into another direction....I'am not taking that gamble if i'am Parcells....were too young, were already ascending, and were lookin too good for the future.
I would consider it. the young guys would do well to learn TO's work ethic. his training and preparation are second to none. the young guys should have to earn their roles. that includes bess and hartline and turner. bringing in an established vet desperate for a ring at the tail end of his career could bring a different perspective to the game and I think he still has a little something left in the tank.
NFW. Team identity and chemistry is something that is very underrated IMHO. And, it's something I feel is building for this young team. Do you really want his ego and diva attitude rubbing off on a dynamic young WR trying to make a fresh start in a new place? The same WR formerly known as "Baby TO?" Just say no to TO.
Maybe TO can teach all those players how to destroy teams from within too since those seem to be part of his work ethics. Bringing in TO is like going to the doctor and you pass your physical and exams and the doctor says to you, We want to inject your with this cancer it will make you more productive at work and in your personal life. But what about the cancer doc ? Don't worry about that cancer we are sure it can be humbled and most likely kill you at a slower rate then we first estimated, but hey you sure scare all your co workers because of your potential of production.
T.O. has always been one of my favorite WRs and I would love to see him on the other side of Brandon Marshall if either one gets doubled then we would just go to the other side and if they both got doubled we would have huge running lanes
Exactly, and more or less my view, that is the upside to bringing him in, the downside, team cancer (though it seems the Jest have no problem with dealing with team cancers) can be handled by making it clear that he can be released at anytime. I do know he blew by Vontae in the second game last season.
If Parcells and Sparano could sit with him and tell him to lose the "diva attitude" and just focus on playing I think he could help us out. I was listening to T.O. on the NFL Network and he seems to be a pretty sharp guy and he works hard and rarely dogs it....you just never know when the "bad" T.O. is going to show up and start playing the blame game. I would keep him on a short lease here and any screw ups or controversy and he would be gone.
Just make Pennington his official media spokesperson. A 100% gag order w/ the press for TO, talk to one reporter and you're outta here. Til we win the Super Bowl, then you can say whatever you want. I still would never ever want him on my Miami Dolphins but Ross' team might have to thunk bout it a lil bit.
And another thing, why the h e double hockey sticks would you one star a thread about bringing in a WR who is still top ten if not top five in the league right now? He certainly made our young superstars look like the rookies they are. Maybe you don't think it's a good idea but the discussion should certainly be had.
Every single time I read this thread title I think it says "Would a hundred Terrell Owens..." and I keep thinking, probably, but how would we get that?
all those thousand yard seasons must have really killed teams. Playing on busted ankles in the super bowl while his qb is puking his nerves up is what cost the team games. Or maybe its the training regiment he learned from the great jerry rice that has killed teams. Miles Austin and all the rest of the Dallas wr core credited him with their development and for teaching them how to prepare for a game. Is he perfect? No, far from. But I think a lot of the negative stuff that gets said about him is overblown. And you know what...he wasn't exactly wrong so far about mcnabb or romo. They haven't shown they can get it done in the big game. T.O. did his part though.....
Egggggggzactly!! I didn't see Dallas, Philly, or even Buffalo fall apart when he played for them. He's never cost his team a win. At worst you'd just have to put up with his words, and at this point they wouldn't be much after this offseason of nobody wanting him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
More or less, TO should be looked at just as an option and not someone who the 2010 dolphins "must" have, in fact they could pass on him easily. However if they did say 'yes" BMarsh/TO/Hartline would be a nice Wr corp with DBess in the slot for the first time since the mid 80's every Wr would be a threat to make a play. People also seem to forget that Irving Fryar was seen as a cancer in New England and gave -0- problems in Miami. I mean come on: When the Browns are saying "no" to TO, it should becoming clear to he and Rosenhaus that he will be fortunate to be in the league in 2010, that has an effect on the ye olde pride.
He may or may NOT be a better option than the guys we have first off. At his age and the position he plays, you just don't know exactly when Father Time will collect his dues. Last season, it was obvious he wasn't the TO of a few years ago. He won't be any better this year, only worse physically, that's how age works. What we really don't know is how quickly he'll drop off physically. That's the big question. Second, is one year of TO and BM together worth the cost of continuing to develop a Patrick Turner or RGM or whoever it ends up being in that last WR spot ?? The light hasn't come on for Turner and RGM is even more unknown but do you give up on a guy like that, that may develop into something more for a year of TO ?? Not me, but then I'm not the Tuna. Third, we aren't one player away from the promised land. There are more pressing questions than who our #2 WR will be. I'd rather get the FS and OLB spots shored up first...heck I'd even take a flyer on FA TE before an aging WR who even if he still has what it takes could tear up the team chemistry as he's done elsewhere (even tho Barfalo wasn't one of those places)....
Diva or not when t.o. gets the ball in his hands the man is large physical and can make big plays. Big plays.
I don't think he would be worth the risk. The man can be extremely toxic to a locker room when he wants to be. We've got something better with BM anyway. Stay classy Dolphins, don't even look at him.
Its more then just the fact that I dont think he would not be a cancer. Its the fact he can help this team win. Look, you can say what you will about Owens, some people cant stand him and I can understand that...but no one has EVER accused the guy of not hustling on the field. Owens can make this team better in so many ways. For the first time since he was a pup on San Fran he'd be a #2 WR facing single coverage. Think about that. Marshall and Owens outside, Hartline and Bess inside, Brown in the backfield and Fasano at TE...who do you cover? Do you want brown chewing you up at 4-5 yards a shot andone of the top three OL mauling you to death or do you want Chad Henne to show you just how good he is? Enjoy.
Another thing to keep in mind about TO is even with mediocre Qb's, he still averaged 15 ypc, Greg C has consistently been around 11 or 12 ypc, TO even at 35 is more productive than Greg C.
In Bizzaro-Land he does....but then again, in Bizzaro-Land, the Miami Dolphins have gone undefeated and won every SuperBowl since 1972 (all without TO) so no reason to add him there either. What's strange is in Bizzaro-Land Miami last lost on opening day in 1972..so 1973 season is when the undefeated streak started. Oh, yeah, Dan Marino is now Commissioner of the NFL, Don Shula is GOD.
"..In a surprise move Bill Parcells and the Miami Dolphins have brought Free Agent Terrell Owens in for a workout..."
When has T.O. ever been humble? he's not the same caliber of WR though, he would still be an upgrade for you guys at WR. Greg C would be ok at Slot given that he can catch everything in his direction. Problem is his route running. Not the best route runner you guys have ever seen and if you're going to be a good slot then its not about your speed its about that agility and route running which he doesnt possess. I mean, outside of catching a Cleo pass a few years ago im not sure what the rave is about this guy. I'd rather have him then T.O. though.
Actually, Greg Camarillo is arguably the best route runner on our roster. It's not just his hands that make him good. Also, he was on pace for 80+ catches and 1,000 yards two seasons ago before he suffered a knee injury. And, he didn't drop a single pass last season. So, I'd say he did more than just save us from a winless season.
I didnt say that he wasnt the best route runner you had, I said that he wasnt the best route runner you guys ever seen. Just because he's the best you got doesnt make him great. But he does catch the football though, cant deny it.
Point is, route running is one of his strengths. He's not just an average route runner, he's a very good route runner.
i think TOs 'playmaking' days have been over for a couple years .... i would not get rid of any of our starting 4 to make room for him.
I don't think it is a matter of whether he helps or not but more along the lines of Parcells didn't want that douchebag in Dallas and he doesn't want him here.
Even if you ignore that Owens is a world-class *******(a tremendous feat of wishful thinking), he is a terrible fit. He fills the exact same niche as Brandon Marshall to the point where comparing Bess and Camarillo is relatively weak, and he at this point doesn't do nearly as good a job of it. You are looking at feeding Owens 100+ throws, and you'll get what? Barely 50% of those as catches? Camarillo and Bess are dramatically more sure-handed, and Hartline has legitimate upside as a big play threat. Taking snaps away from them, and for that matter, Brandon Marshall is about as good an example as detrimental a signing as it gets.
TO would be, in the words of David Bowie, "A fat waste of space." Just say 'Never!' - Anyone who thinks he's "humbled" or ever will be is naive. Besides that he drops a lot of passes; is far too unreliable; he can make a play but he can also be a liability both on and off the field with respect to the rest of the team. Asid from the fact that Parcells would not have him. I wouldn't either.