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L O S T - The Final Season

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  1. femalefinfan

    femalefinfan Phillies fan Luxury Box

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    The influence of evil or MIB would be the sickness/darkness.
     
  2. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    When Desmond is brought back to the island by Whidmore and subjected to the electromagnetism again, in his brief moment of unconciousness he sees the flash sideways. If the FS is the afterlife, how is that possible? Because the first time Desmond was subjected to the EM when he turned the key, recall that he flashed back to 1996? Is there a chance that we're wrong about the FS??
     
  3. Ultra

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    the flash sideways is technically a flash back, since it is reverted back to the Flight 817, but it doesn't crash.
     
  4. AbideN703

    AbideN703 Yes, I'd hit it

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    The flash sideways should happen after you're dead as it is their meeting place in the afterlife.
     
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  5. AbideN703

    AbideN703 Yes, I'd hit it

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    Not sure. And the line Flocke says to Jack after Whidmore's guys send grenades over, "You're with me now".

    To me that was the writers trying to trick the audience into thinking Jack was infected like Sayid was supposed to be. But was Sayid ever infected by anything? Was the whirlpool in Dogen's cave water from the light source? If so, why did Sayid come back to life?
     
  6. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Something doesn't pass the smell test... of course, we could say that about the whole show, but I digress... Who is the one person in the FS who never appeared alive on the island, yet was there at the church and the first to open the door "out?" Christian Shepherd The island time couldn't have been his best moment of his life... Who did we see smokey/MIB appear as on the island.. Christian Shepherd... Since smokey "died" as Locke on the island, could he have reverted back to the form previously? Hey anything is possible... :shifty: maybe when you die on the island you go to smokey land...
     
  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    the flash sideways is not technically a flash back. It is technically a flash nowhere.

    Because it is in the afterlife where there is no time. Without time there is no flash back or flash forward
     
  8. muscle979

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    It could be kind of like someone having a near death experience and seeing the light at the end of the tunnel so to speak. Anybody could have seen a glimpse of that world at any point in time b/c it's not bound to normal time. When Desmond went down into the cave at the end he thought he was going to go there. He probably didn't understand then that it was the afterlife. He didn't go there because he had not died yet. Maybe then after he he remembered his real life in the afterworld he connected the dots and then brought everyone together. Of course you'd have to assume they all saw their own deaths once they 'remembered'. Even the ones whose deaths we did not see in the show.
     
  9. Ray Finkle

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    Even though Locke forgave him and Hurley liked him, Ben probably wouldn't have been excepted by the rest of the group with good reason too. I still don't see how Ben redeemed himself, because he helped Hurley after the show ended? The guy still murdered Locke and Widmore in cold blood, among others.
     
  10. Ray Finkle

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    I thought we were suppose to find out what happened to Claire and why she left Aaron alone in the woods. It certainly feels like it was swept right under the rug (along with the rest of the stuff you mentioned). The best thing I could come up with was MIB came to her as Christian Sheppard and told her she had to leave Aaron and follow him, but who knows.

    Certainly there are a lot of things that were left up in the air.
     
  11. muscle979

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    He redeemed himself in the afterlife world [purgatory I guess] by taking care of Alex. Remember when he had a chance to take over the principal position but refused bowed down to save Alex's academic career? It wasn't a gun to her head but it was a similar situation and he did the right thing this time.

    I don't understand your point with the last sentence. Without those bad things why would he even need redemption? I think helping Hurley was definitely part of it. That and the things he did in the afterworld. All of the characters did things to an extent. Sawyer fought crime instead of committing it. Jin didn't go around doing dirty deeds for Sun's father. Jack became the father he didn't really have.
     
  12. Ray Finkle

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    My whole point with the last sentence is that the guy still committed crimes that he should have to pay for, just because he redeemed himself in the alternative world doesn't/shouldn't take those sins away. Anyway, even if he did in fact redeem himself (which he very well could of) my main point of him not going into the church because the other castaways won't welcome him is valid. He doesn't fit in with the group much like other characters such as Eko, Michael, Walt, Ana Lucia didn't. That's why I think he turned Hurley's invitation down.
     
  13. muscle979

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    Yeah that could be it. Or if you're looking at the afterworld as a purgatory he probably knew he needed to spend more time there. It's logical to think bad people would need to spend a lot more time there than people who were less bad.

    To go in a completely different direction, maybe he didn't go in because he feels like it's his responsibility to stay with Alex and Danielle until they 'remember', redeem himself with them, and then go into the light with the two of them. That will not be an easy task for him so he knows he's got a lot of time left.
     
  14. Ray Finkle

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    Yeah I definitely buy that that Ben was waiting around for Alex and Danielle, he fits in with them better anyway.
     
  15. Paul 13

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    Another question... wtf was up with Keamy in the afterlife? he dies right? So does that mean he ends up in hell? I also will restate what I thought he said to Jin in the restaurant before he died, something to the effect of you have no idea what is happening on the island... does anyone know where we can find transcripts of the show so we can prove that is what he said (or didn't say).?
     
  16. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Damon and Carlton already said no, Keamy never said anything about the island.
     
  17. Frumundah Finnatic

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    if the pool had the light in it then shouldn't have sayid turned into a smoke monster?maybe he was and they just werent showing it..the guy kept dissappearing and popping up outta nowhere.i hate all the "assuming for yourself"the writers did when they could have just as easily told us these things.
     
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