He's wrong. Bonobos & chimps are the closet thing to human intelligence. There is a serious overestimation of the gorilla's intelligence in this fight. The gorilla isn't going to sit back and analyze the fight and formulate a strategy, other than fight or flight. The only thing the gorilla's brains will do is be a counterweight that makes his head roll around wobbly when the Kodiak removes it with one swipe.
This fight is very simple....even IF (BIG IF) you assume that the Gorilla is stronger and more intelligent.... the fight then would be the equivalent of a 5'-10" 180 pound thug wielding a Knife versus an un-armed 5'-8" 160 pound MMA fighter. My money is on the Thug with the knife.
Gorilla can't be stronger. Its a third the size. A Kodiak can carry 3 times the weight of gorilla while RUNNING 40 MILES AN HOUR!!!!!
If you had a gorilla as smart as a human, they still couldn't win. The bear is stronger, bigger and faster. The gorilla would have to be armed. Gorilla vs. Leopard. Gorilla wins. Gorilla vs. Croc. Gorilla wins on land. Gorilla vs. Lion. Draw Gorilla vs. Tiger. Tiger wins. Kodiak vs. Leopard. Kodiak wins. Kodiak vs. Croc. Kodiak wins on land and water. Kodiak vs. Lion. Kodiak wins. Kodiak vs. Tiger. Draw. Rhino beats them all though. Even an elephant won't mess with a rhino.
I saw a Gorilla at Busch Gardens make rope out of palm fronds. He used it to hang himself. Don't tell me that isn't smart.
Say what???? So a kodiak can carry 1500 lbs while running 40 mph...i want video. NO WAY can they do that. They might be able to do those things independently. As for me I say Gorilla.
Would you guys be interested in a Animal fight tournament? Now,,the fights would not be straight up...I would use handicaps for certain fighters...such as the Gorrila vs. the Bear...I would give the Gorilla spiked gloves. Whoever fights a crocodile has to fight him in a Mud pen where his footing would be better. The Rhino would have 50% of his armor removed.
ah I gotcha..read it a little wrong. I still go with the gorilla though...i would pay a huge amount of cash to see this and drip money on the gorilla if it was and underdog...but they way your talking the odds should be +300 for the gorilla I'd say.
a few reasons. One, I think we are seriously underestimating the intelligence advantage. I like the gorillas low base and I think they don't give up much strengthwise. I also say the gorilla will have better lateral movement and their dexterity is better as should be the hand/eye coordination. Overall the Gorilla is the total package imo in the animal world as it relates to fighting.
I'm a gorilla fan but let's face it how is the Gorilla going hurt the grizzly?? punching biting ? It doesn't have a big enough bite to get past the fur and fat...the gorilla has no fur or fat to protect it from the claws/bite of the bear and it's not a natural predator.
I think those of us on Team Gorilla are banking on him being able to concoct some sort of Improvised Explosive Devise to plant on the Bear somehow during battle.
Here's how the gorilla beats the grizzly: You have him train Mixed Matrial Arts with Georges St. Pierre. That gorilla would then be able to destroy any opponent in the animal kingdom.
Based on what evidence? A bear can be taught to do anything a gorilla can. The only limitation a bear has in performing learned tasks is a thumb. Even a bears senses are far greater than a gorillas. If we're bringing human weapons into the equation, then we can bring in guns that have been modified to work for bears. Bears still win. The gorilla's intelligence, is not that far above a bears. If intelligence were a factor, than an African Grey Parrot could take them both. (Look up Alex the African Grey Parrot.) The difference in intelligence levels is so low, it just isn't significant enough to matter in a fight. The bear can fight on all fours. That trumps your "low base". Gorillas are very strong, but pail in comparison to bears. Bears can pick up cars. You think they would, but they don't. Bears have been taught to do everything from boxing to ride unicycles. The bear's 40 miles an hour top speed isn't for long distances but they can maintain that speed while keeping up with deer that are trying to juke them. Kodiaks can't climb trees as well as other bears, so the gorilla has an advantage there, but if the gorilla is in a tree then its because he retreated. A fight could continue into water, but the bear still has the clear advantage.
Oh I don't think the Gorilla would win 100% maybe closer to 70%+ The problem with the Bear is it will stand up to try and intimidate and all the Gorilla would do is charge it and push it over. The Bear would be startled and stunned from something so small knocking it over. I think the intelligence factor plays a huge factor in these fights.
Pound for Pound the Gorilla is stronger not only that The Gorilla is already hella strong. I'm telling you the Gorilla would just break the Neck of the Bear. Bears are big ol *******.
No it doesn't!!!! Damn it how come that stupid Animal planet TV show that pitted scenarios of animal vs animal. They should have done this so it could settle things.
It doesn't matter if the gorilla is lb for lb stronger if it is outweighed by 700lbs. Even if lb for lb the bear has only 70% of the gorilla's strength it'd still be 1.68x as strong as the gorilla overall.
Gorillas posture too. If a gorilla tried to rush a Kodiak on its hind legs, the gorilla would take a swipe to the head that would quite literally, render what ever marginal intelligence "advantage" it had, moot. You can't count the intelligence level, unless you can quantify it. Really the difference in intelligence is similar to a college math teacher compared to a professional wrestler. Sure, the teacher is smarter, its not enough of an advantage to kick the wrestlers *** though. Pound for pound a dung beetle is stronger than you. I guess the dung beetle would kick your butt then? Yes gorillas are strong, they wish they were bear strong. If you ever find yourself in Ocala, FL, PM me. I'll see if I can get you behind the scenes at Silver Springs so you can see a Kodiak live 3 feet away from you. Your tune will change. So much so, you'll feel obliged to come on this site and make a post about how wrong you were.
I'll make this concession, if there was a gorilla the size of a kodiak, it would win. Since that creature doesn't exist though....
