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That Gobal Warming is a killer!!!!

Discussion in 'Science & Technology' started by finyank13, May 7, 2010.

  1. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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  2. Layfield

    Layfield New Member

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    Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not but global warming was never intended to be the five day forecast. We can have one cold day in an isolated city without global warming being a myth.
     
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  3. LandShark13

    LandShark13 New Member

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    :up:
     
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  4. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Yes and for every article you see showing data that it exists, you see one that shows data that it isnt some crazy global warming trend that is happening, but rather normal climate changes the earth has been going through for the past million or so years, in relation to the timeframe that it is in now....
     
  5. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    some of the normal climate changes you are referring to were caused by gases in the atmosphere and such.
     
  6. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    untrue and unfounded, I dont believe it, I think it is once huge money maker, especially for politicians....Al Gore has made millions if not billions off this and he is one of the biggest energy abusers out there, is he so worried about it??

    Listen as humans, we should be doing our part, recycle, dont be foolish with our resources, obviously create sensible laws banning things like dumping radioactive waste etc.....but eff me if you are charging me extra cash, making up laws restricting certain things, or charging tax on something because it uses energy, where does it stop I guess is the question?
     
  7. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    no its not untrue or unfounded. They do core samples which show the atmosphere had gases that caused a net effect on the temperature and such.
     
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  8. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    and those have changed through out the years....
     
  9. unluckyluciano

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    yes, but the point is if we have evidence gasses and chemicals have effected the earths temperature before, why now would they stop having an effect to where CO2 that we produce no longer has an effect. The only way CO2 would not have an effect is if there is some counter to it. To date there is no known counter.
     
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  10. finyank13

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    Because I am of the belief that the changes arent as prevelant as they were being made to believe they were....when this whole thing started...

    Agree on no known counter.....plant trees damn it!!!
     
  11. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Is this based on your years of research and scientific degrees?
     
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  12. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    I have to agree with your assessment and can by logical progression make a case that all this global warming stuff is bull. Simply put.................

    We must be the most ridiculous and arrogant, self centered beings in the entire universe!!!

    If anyone thinks for one second we can take 200-300 years of data,(temperatures actually recorded), some of which we don't even know for sure is accurate, and apply it to a planet that has been around for 6 billion years and come up with the conclusion that the planet is warming......

    We are dumber then we look:pity:

    There simply is not enough data to draw that type of conclusion. Now if we had say....................a billion or even several million years of data to compare it to then maybe. Even more surprising is the scientists "global warming theory" is based on a temperature rise of not more then 1/2 degree
     
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  13. LandShark13

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    You don't think scientist are just using 200-300 years worth of temperature readings to determine whether or not the earths temperature is rising....Do you?
     
  14. unluckyluciano

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    they've taken core samples from many of the ice ages, as well as warming periods, etc. In fact its why they have stations all the way up north so they can dig the ice cores. Its actually a fascinating process if you ever get a chance to read about it.
     
  15. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And then they adjust it. :up:
     
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  16. unluckyluciano

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    adjust what? ice cores?
     
  17. LandShark13

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    Ya, they make then water cores or was it puddles?.........:no:
     
  18. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Holy hell we do not care. What does it matter about the temperature data when the earth was mostly molten rock? All that matters is the temperature on the planet for the last 100,000 thousand years, maybe 200,000.

    The rest of the data does not matter because we want to know the temperature that is best for our own survival.
     
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  19. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    http://www.nature.com/news/2009/091118/full/news.2009.1094.html

    It's a multi-pronged equation IMHO.

    You have the natural changes the earth undergoes over time. You have the sun, orbit and everything else outside of our atmosphere. And you have man.

    IMHO, man plays the smallest roll. But it only takes one final straw to break a camel's back.

    I think there is a bit of indigenousness on both sides of the debate. To me, it's obvious that it's not a man-made phenomenon. But that doesn't mean man cannot and/or does not influence it.
     
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  20. jdang307

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    No. The temps after the cores. :up:
     
  21. unluckyluciano

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    not sure what you are talking about. The infer temperatures from different parts of the ice core such as the way its packed together, the ice design etc, as well as the make up of the gasses.
     
  22. jdang307

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    I mean to say, they take ice core temperatures, then use that as a baseline. Then they take direct temp readings of the last few decades, then adjusted them upwards.
     
  23. unluckyluciano

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    hmmmmmmmmm I haven't read about that in relation to ice core data. I have read it in relation to the urbanization effect.
     
  24. jupiterfin

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    http://climateprogress.org/2010/05/...-and-hottest-jan-april-in-temperature-record/
     
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  25. gafinfan

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    A thousand thanks to Muck, a great post.

    I would add my 2 cents but after being questioned as the person who makes sarcastic remarks after every time it snows I shall refrain from any further retort. It is hard but I shall do it!:wink2:
     

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