And on the other hand, passing too often will result in a high likelihood of losing. The point I'm getting at is that passing efficiency is the way to win. If Sanchez is being efficient, and the Jets' passing defense isn't crapping itself, then they're likely to win. And what do you know, they made the AFCCG. I refuse to penalize Sanchez for making the most of his passing attempts. That's the objective of throwing the football in the first place.
If youre going to compare thier performances vs each other, dont you have to factor in that Henne was playing vs the #1 defense in the league while Sanchez was playing against a below average group?
I think this discussion is premature and to his credit Graham alludes to the same line of thinking. He flat out said that Henne could actually end up the better prospect. To early in the game to really tell how these two will end up. I think Henne had a much harder job last year with the suspect talent at WR we had and a defense that could not be counted on to hold a lead at all. Sanchez had a better supporting cast and team but had a horrible Int to TD ratio. He was just a rookie though. You can only expect so much from even a talented rookie. Go look up John Elway's stats from his first couple campaigns. We all know what we want: Sanchez to fail miserably and Henne to become a top 10 QB. What will actually happen is yet to be determined.
Correct, but why is he saying Sanchez is better than Henne right now then? When we've been giving solid evidence that Henne is better at the moment. I think that's the argument here. That nothing based on their careers so far indicates Sanchez is better. Nothing. But as was said and is true, too early to tell who will have the better career, but right now, Henne is ahead.
for much of the season, Sanchez held the Jets back. Sanchez stopped messing up in the playoffs and it showed. Miami had to rely on Henne to win some games.
There's a big difference between year 1 and year 2. In fact there are big jumps in the first three seasons for most QBs. Outside of those years comparing off-year stats is not as a big of a deal.
I don't give a **** about Sanchez, I'm very happy with Henne's performance especially considering what he had to play with,OL injuries no R.Brown and a D with 2 rookies at corner and Ferg out. I like Henne's potential and the fact that for the first time in many years we have a possible long term solution at QB.
Can't say I argue with the assessment. Henne was a little better in regular season, but Sanchez played well in post season and progressed ahead a little. Henne has Marshal now, time to step up!
Its discussed in the Ask Tim Graham thread, and you cant argue with his opinion nor how he backs it up at the present in its CONTEXT of it being mainly about the playoffs and making it to the AFC Championship game as the protector and efficiency. The 2009 regular season was a different story (and Tim acknowledged as much).....as the 2010 season will be. Henne has it all in front of him to really dominate with a solid core @ WR and RB, and a D to match to aide us in piling up victories on both sides of the ball.
Ask not what Sanchez can do for the Jets but what Henne can do for the Dolphins. That's all I care about as this comparison stuff is not worth much thought given their limited career stats. End of the day I like what I've seen from Henne and that is all that matters to this fan. 2009's final, Henne 2, Sanchez 0.
You could have, you know, watched him some? It doesn't take rocket science to figure out what Sanchez' gig was last year. Throw a bare minimum of attempts, and what gets thrown(and not intercepted or incomplete) was play action passes. Towards the end of the season they even tried to restrict him towards throwing to the right half of the field only.
I think Miami's D outplayed the Jets in the first game, NY stayed in the game primarily b/c of 2 fake punts that fooled no one, but Wake and Porter missed tackles, gave up the first, and the Jets ended up scoring on both drives. Then there was the bogus P.I. on W Allen and the bomb to Clowney that set up two more scores. 2nd game NYs D was dominant, easily Henne's worst game of the season. There was the near miss on the bomb to hartline early but other than that not much to speak of. Our D played well also, except for that one play where Vontae goes for the pick and ends up allowing a 56 yd catch and run by Cotchery. Taylor scored a TD, Ginn had a career day of course. IMO if Bess doesnt fumble that punt, I think we win that game easily. I agree the defensive performances just about cancel out, but my point is that Henne is facing the #1 defense while Sanchez is facing a 22nd ranked unit, so if youre going to compare thier head to head performances I think that has to be factored in.
Henne was ALOT better. If the Jets didnt have their defense to bail them out, they go 4-12 this year. All Sanchez had to do was hand off, make an occasional throw, and not screw up. And he struggled to even do that. Now, when he did do it, the Jets were tough to beat, but anytime Sanchez was asked to make plays on a consitent basis he failed miserably. His coaches dumbed down the game plan for him, and ran the ball 60% of the time b/c they didnt trust his decision making and ball security skills. 24 turnovers in one year, I dont blame them.
This is what I responded to Tim in his thread.. Tim thanks for being part of this great forum... We all appreciate the fact that their seems to be NO BIAS on reporting what you see on our favorite Dolphin's team... To start off, lets state that both the Jets and the Dolphins have one of the Top OL's in the NFL... On the matter of Sanchez vs Henne, I can understand what you are basing your views on... and to use the same basis, IMO, I would like to express my views... As you stated on a prior post, Sanchez pass for 272 yards in one of his first games, but did you also know that that was the only game won in which he passed for over 200+ yards??? He played 5 games (record of 1-4, including PS) in which he passed for over 200 yards, winning only the first one. That is a 20% winning record... Henne played in 7 games (record of 3-4) in where he passed for over 200+ yds, that is a 43% winning record... Both QBs, IMO, played very well with the talent around them, or did they??? Knowing that Edwards (Top 10 WR talent) was given to Sanchez, to help him out right away, did not take anything away from Henne. With Cotchery and Edwards you would think that Sanchez would have had no problems winning games where he has to let it fly??? But the truth of the matter is that Sanchez was handy capped, when he had to make his own decisions when flushed out of the pocket. That is why Rex gave him a "Color Code" to use between plays, to avoid Sanchez from making poor decisions. Let us not forget about them... So what Top 10 WR talent did the Dolphin's FO bring last year to help Henne out??? ---------------------------------------- and on Sanchez Post Season... He did OK in the Cincy game, passsing the ball all 15 times. Yes 15 times for 182 yds, that was about 27% of the plays on Offense. Sanchez was just asked to manage the game and not to make his own decisions, again relying on Rex Ryan's Color Code system. He only attempted 5 passes in the 2nd half of that game. This game shows that he was not asked to do much except hand the ball off. I have to say that he did that extremely well... Can I add to say that there was still that Run Game, and and outstanding Defense... Against SD... well 63 yds through the air and 23 attempts averaging 4.0 YPA. Sanchez had 8 Pass attempts in the 2nd half (out of 23 attempts). Had 1 TD and 1 INT, and passed in 36% of the Offensive plays. This tells me that again Sanchez was not asked to take risks and play conservative... Sanchez was 10-4 (including Post Season) when he passed for under 200 yds, that was 71% winning record... Henne was 7-2 when passing for under 200 yds, that is a 78% winning record... -------------------------------------- Now in the end, Sanchez was tasked with being conservative and not to take risks. That is what you would want your rookie to do. Henne more often, was asked to take risks, since he was around the scheme for the last year (2008). Specially when his defense had given up 17+ points in the first half, in the last few games of the year... I think both QBs showed what they can do with the talent around them. Sanchez was reigned in to avoid the Rookie mistakes, while Henne was allowed to take risks...
