Fifth-round draft choice Reshad Jones grateful for chance to be Miami Dolphins' free

But those errors by the SS don't kill your team as long as you have a FS behind him. If your FS makes that error that could mean a TD. If somebody is prone to those errors then making him your FS puts your whole team at risk.

 

I'm not necessarily sure about that. A lot of coverages are going to give the SS the same deep responsibility as the FS.

And really, when he played FS, Jones didn't have issues. More issues at SS IMO.

 

i agree. What I saw in Jones was a less athletic Taylor Mays. I thought he was onbe of the better SS prospects but a very poor FS prospect. Doesnt guarantee that he cant become a FS. He has enough physical skill to play the position and he is only 21 I believe but his instincts were horrible. He gave up so many big plays in georgia that its frightening to think he would have deep responsibility in Miami

 

how is Jones a better football player? They guy gave up big play after big play in Georgia. He may have be more physical and have better athleticism but if you're talking football instincts Clemons was the guy that was more consistent in college. Jones is a size speed guy whereas Clemons was the steady boring player who simply did his assignment correctly everytime

 

Wow!! I just noticed that! Holy Mackeral batman.

 

i would take that 15 yard penalty every game to instill fear in WR's crossing the middle of the field. sniper out there that brings pain and punishment sign me up.

we all saw kennoy kennedy light chambers up
dirty shot yes but a memorable one
chambers was never the same when he had to go after the football in there
not saying we need to play dirty just physical
i would love to see r jones turn into oliver
heres hoping

 

When you say things like that, with all due respect it comes across as hyperbole to me. Same as your comments about Edds ability to take on blocks...something along the lines that right now he cannot at all. the next time will be the first time, words to that effect.
Clemons is IMO a fast athletic guy, but instinctive? I don't see it myself. Michael Hamlin was the instinctive Clemson safety. As for never messing up an assignment. I don't buy that either. Your basis for saying Clemons was better in college was that according to you, Clemons never misses an assignment and Jones was allowing big play after big play. Sorry, but to me all that sounds like a gross exaggeration.

 

its not hyperbole its what they brought to the pros from college. Clemons brought average athleticism but steady consistent play. Jones brought a size speed advantage but lasted to the 5th because of his inconsitent pass coverage. If you think its just me saying that look at their scouting reports

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/502303

Positives: Lanky build with room for additional growth. … Has at least adequate pure game speed to be the last line of defense. … Takes good angles in pursuit. … Reads the quarterback and gets a jump on the ball. … Flashes a late burst to close. … Good open-field tackler. … Has the lateral quickness and balance to break down in space and wraps up. … Agile enough to slip blocks and make tackles near the line of scrimmage. … Durable. … Has never missed a game due to injury at Clemson.

Negatives: Lacks the bulk many teams prefer at safety. … A reliable open-field tackler, but lacks the explosiveness to be an enforcer in the middle. … Isn't a natural playmaker. … Loses sight of the ball and doesn't have natural hands for the interception. … Surrounded by legitimate NFL talent and has been allowed to freelance as a centerfielder

http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/3/25/805862/fs-chris-clemons-clemson

Styg's Broncos Fit: A solid tackler with a good feel for his responsibilities and his teammates. Was allowed to pick his spots on the field and was reliable in coverage. Unfortunately, not overly athletic and doesn't seem to be able to push his game to the next level. He can add size however, which could give him some much-needed power and explosiveness

•Overshadowed throughout his career by teammate Michael Hamlin, Clemons' consistency in coverage might actually make him the safer NFL prospect. A three-year starter for the Tigers who leaves with 323 career tackles, 20 passes broken up and five interceptions, Clemons' production warrants a closer look. If he can prove his speed in workouts, Clemons' could surprise as a second-day defender capable of contributing immediately


reshad jones

Jones is a tall, good-looking strong safety who displays a sudden first step out of his stance when asked to attack downhill and generates good power on contact as a tackler. He's a physical hitter with a strong upper body. He will go for the knockout punch too often instead of wrapping up but overall is a sound tackler when asked to close in pursuit. He's also a good last-line defender who breaks down well and can wrap up in space. Jones is an above-average straight-line athlete for his size who gets up to full speed quickly and does a good job taking proper angles toward the ball. But he's still a bit slow when asked to diagnose plays and lacks the second gear to make up for a false step. He showcases a natural initial bend in his stance but allows his pad level to get too high when asked to turn and run. Jones plays too leggy when trying to get back out of his breaks and struggles to stay compact with his footwork and generate a burst when trying to quickly change directions. He possesses good ball skills downfield, and once he sees the play he does a nice job tackling the ball, high-pointing the throw and coming down with the play. But too often he loses sight of the ball when trying to transition out of his breaks and lacks ideal overall ball awareness when trying to get his head around. Jones possesses an intriguing frame and above-average straight-line speed once he gets going but isn't instinctive and fails to quickly redirect and change directions because of his elongated footwork.

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=63825&PT=7&PR=2&type=scoutingreport#scouting

 

Chris Clemons had a 4.41 forty time, hes a pretty athletic guy as well. And honestly, their measurable are also pretty damn close, Clemons only being an inch shorter and a hand full of pounds lighter.

 

So, I read your carefully selected scouting reports, but I do not see where they back your two statements of "Jones gives up big play after big play" and "Clemons never misses an assignment." All encompassing generalizations like that define hyperbole.

Both players were rated as about 3rd rounders. Both were taken in the 5th. They both have their good points and both have things they ideally need to improve. You like Clemons better. I like Jones better. You can say till the cows come home that Clemons is better. I can do the same with Jones. Doesn't make either you or me right. I think Jones is a better football player mainly because he is a better ball athlete, he is stronger and he is a more physical tackler. You think Clemons is better for the reasons you gave. We will see how it plays out.

BTW, in your defense of Clemons if the first paragraph, you still said Jones has a size speed advantage which is not true. Clemons is a lot faster and works out faster in drills. Jones is bigger, stronger, and more explosive. Those physical attributes for both are born out in workouts.