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miami's version of the Dez question

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Omaha, Apr 30, 2010.

  1. Omaha

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  2. MikeHoncho

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    At least it's a clarification, and not another snap judgment about Ireland (GM).
     
  3. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    hmmmmmmmm sounds like it was within context.
     
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  4. Fin D

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    ?@/#$$##^%%@%^&&%^$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    All this crap has been about this?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!

    Un-freaking-believable.

    His dad's a pimp and his mom works for his dad, but she's not a hooker....I guess then, it would have been ok if he asked is your mom a pimp or a pimp's accountant?

    Dez Bryant and the National Media owe Irish an apology now.
     
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  5. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    ireland: Is your mom a...........how do I put this.......does she............ummmmm.......is your mom an accountant?
     
  6. Killerphins

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    dez bryant is such a puzzy!
     
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  7. MikeHoncho

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    Actually, Human Relations Representative

    is the title

    Nowhere near what a Prostitute does...

    Sounds like a euphemism, but it's NOT!


    ...Right on, Dez!

    Again, I hope the Jerry Jones cash soothes your soul, brother. Its absorbency becomes useful in wiping tears as well.
     
  8. jdang307

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    Actually I think this is worse.

    Yes there was miscommunication, but Ireland, classy fella he is, should have asked, what is it exactly does your mom do for your dad. Instead, is your mother a whore?

    See, the justification before for Ireland was that he had some inside information, some private investigation stuff, that his mother was a whore.

    Yes, I still think Ireland was out of line. And so did Ireland.
     
  9. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Are you kidding me??? seriously....What does your father do? He is a doctor? What does your mother do? She works for him? Is she a nurse?......whats the difference

    http://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/13137749336

    Bryant has caught everything, including a one-hand grab, but looks out of shape. "Cmon 88!" Wade hollered gently as Bryant kneeled down.

    Gently being the KEY word.....god forbid you treat him like a football player showing up out of shape....can you imagine if the Dolphins took this clown at 12 overall, or even 28...
     
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  10. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    what an awful opinion
    you are absolutely splitting hairs
    what exactly should they do to ireland for asking the question
    do you want him fired like some of these other knuckleheads
    jesus give it a rest
     
  11. SeanP

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    Wow...

    I want to comment on this, but words fail me.

    All I can say is I'm really glad we didn't draft this whiny little *****. If he got offended by that, I pray to GOD he invests in some good earplugs for his NFL career.
     
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  12. MikeHoncho

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    Well, what other positions are offered under a pimp?
     
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  13. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    defenses are going to torment him
    cant wait to see them drive his sensitive sausage into the dirt
    what a jerk-off
     
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  14. finyank13

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    that might be a first ever heard??
     
  15. MikeHoncho

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    ...


    ...

    Well...
     
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  16. Fin D

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    I see.

    So, now that we know how the conversation went down and we know that Dez has said in the past that he'll make any team that passes him up...pay, and we know he fully expected to go to us or right around us and he didn't...you still want to blame this on Ireland?
     
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  17. SeanP

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    Good observation, I totally forgot about that. His skills might not hold up to par, but I think we need to dub this prima donna TO Jr.
     
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  18. unluckyluciano

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    sensitive sausage is not a crime, its a disease
     
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  19. DrAstroZoom

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    I hereby withdraw about 90% of my former criticism of Ireland for this incident.
     
  20. Caps

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    I probably would have followed this exact line of questioning if I were Ireland.

    If he owed Dez an apology for that, then the media owes him an apology for all this bs.
     
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  21. Rick 1966

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    Yeah, I am pretty much on his side in this now too. Dez Bryant is either an attention-whore or a think-skinned wussy.
     
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  22. Onehondo

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    If Bryant's mother had a conviction for selling crack cocaine and served 18 months and she worked for a pimp isn't it logical she could be a prostitute with a crack habit?

    Ireland: " Bryant if your mom works for your dad the pimp is she a prostitute? "
    Bryant: " No!, she is not a prostitute, she sells crack cocaine! "
     
  23. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Same here. It seems like a logical progression in a line of questioning. Can't say I wouldn't have asked a similar question, or asked to him elaborate when he says his mom works for Dad (and Dad is a pimp).
     
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  24. Fin D

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    Finally.

    You're of the "list' now.
     
  25. HardKoreXXX

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    Thanks...Goebbels.
     
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  26. StLouisFinFan

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    sorry JDand but you're really reaching on this one bro...if and when you tell someone that your father was a pimp and that your mother worked for him, what in God's name would you expect the other person to think? Think of it this way, you've been dating a gal for a while and thinking of marrying her, but you'd like to get to know her family better. You ask what her father does, and the answer is pimp. You ask what her mother does, after getting over the whole pimp as a father thing, and the answer is "works for my Dad". You're telling me at that point, instead of flat asking "so you Mom's a prostitute?", you come out with "so what exactly does your Mom do for him?"...??? The whole pimp/prostitut relationship only has two players. The total number of emplyees is 2, unless there are more whores of course. Come on man, sounds like you've got an axe to grind to me.
     
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  27. Fin D

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    You are velcome.
     
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  28. Big Red

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    Yeah. Me too. I owe Jeff Ireland an apology.
     
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  29. jdang307

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    Splitting Hairs? I'm just agreeing with Ireland.

    Yall are calling Ireland a liar. He said it was inappropriate. Everyone in here is trying to say it wasn't. He was there. We weren't. I'm pretty sure these sources were not either.

    All I'm doing, is agreeing with Ireland. The one guy who is there, who has spoken publicly about it. What exactly are you doing?
     
  30. Fin D

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    Ahhhhhhh. Nothing like a bowl of Pofo Trix in the Dolphin forums to start my day.
     
  31. Marco

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    This is exactly how I suspected this all went down. A old friend asked me what I thought about all this (who thought this was all ridiculous and a Jets fan no less!) and I said with a background as troubled as Dez's you better find out what's true and stamp out what's negative hearsay. The worst thing a GM could do is strike a prospect off the board because, "Well, you know I heard this about you and I'm going to assume the worst about you. Get out." I had my doubts about this being a behavioral interview or "push button" question but it still turned out that way due to Dez's reaction to it.

    IMHO of course, but if that's the unpopular way to go I'll try again: "Have you started burning bodies? I want a front row seat for the pyre! Tell me you haven't burned Jeff yet!" :lol:
     
  32. jdang307

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    Pofo tricks, sure.
    How does one use poor judgment and show disrespect with a question that was appropriate. Riddle me that.

    From the CNNSI article:
    Two sources contend, allegedly ensued, and everyone takes it as absolute truth? Come on. The Miami Brass is being dragged through the proverbial mud. If that's how it ensued, Ross, Ireland, Parcells and Sparano are all saying it publicly. Not two unnamed sources.
     
  33. MikeHoncho

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    He basically said he realized Dez was hurt by the question and simply apologized. The fact that he didn't didn't realize this at the time shows he practiced poor judgment. He meant no disrespect. That's it. And hether or not a question is inappropriate depends on the maturity level of the person being queried and their subsequent reaction.
     
  34. Fin D

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    Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh.

    I dunno, maybe he issued the apology in the hopes this bad PR would go away. I know that kind of thing is completely unheard of and everything.

    But hey, whatever to win the argument, right counselor?
     
  35. Tin Indian

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    If this is in fact how the conversation went, there are a whole lot of people out there in the media and otherwise that owe Jeff Ireland a BIG TIME apology and a very public Mea Culpa.
     
  36. jdang307

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    No I don't want to win the "argument". We're all having a difference of opinion on the matter. Look, I like to subscribe to Occam's razor. "entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity"

    Fact of the matter is, if it went down this way, then Ireland is saying such, since it absolves him from a lot of the PR mess. He doesn't go apologize for an inappropriate act he did not commit. Isn't that the simplest answer? If it went down this way we would have heard from him, or the Dolphins officially. But we get unnamed sources instead.

    I'll say it like this, if it went down the way it is alleged, then I will agree with you. It's not so bad. But so far, there is no evidence that leads me to believe it went down that way.
     
  37. Caps

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    Perception is reality, and the perception the media was putting out there was that Ireland asked an inflammatory question out of the blue. He had no choice but to issue that apology whether he thought it was deserved or not. I would have done the same thing, regardless of how the actual conversation went down.
     
  38. Fin D

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    Fair enough.

    But it is possible, to apologize to someone not because you felt like you did anything wrong, but because that someone got hurt, pulled in the media and people are calling for your head.
     
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    Ahhh, good to be on the right side of the fence on this one.
     

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