Analysts say Miami Dolphins pick Jared Odrick 'dominant,' 'perfect'

I think they took a risk in moving so far back but I am guess that they figures Arizona was going to nab a QB instead of Dan williams, I think Dan was their guy but the risk they took didnt pay off but we will never know. As far as the trade going it was a no brainer to get a 2 rounder and a player out of the deal. The trade was genius but risky and the risk didnt pay off. Its all good 6'5 and 300 lbs moving as fast as he does cant be bad to have.

 

First of all, we had the 12th overall pick...with that pick, we could have had a player with arguably top-10 talent due to a couple reaches earlier by other teams. If we are indeed trying to make a deep playoff run, then we need talent...we need people to step up and contribute in game-changing ways. We basically threw that away to get a couple role-players.
Second, in whose opinion is Odrick a "top defensive player?" I haven't seen any pre-draft projections that have him being taken any sooner than the late 1st round. Yes he's talented, but he's a role-player who will rotate in with the defensive line. He's not a Ndomikan Suh or even a Eric Berrry, he's not a game-changer. Yes, he's a puzzle piece, but not as big or key of a piece as we could have had.

 

Sigh... Ok Mel Kiper Jr.

btw Jason Taylor isnt here because we spit in his face, just like the FO did to Zach Thomas.

 

well you clearly weren't looking around very well cause there were many analysts who had Odrick going top 20. Some as high as the Browns...

Odrick was the Big Ten defensive player of the year. (Over guys like Brandon Graham) He was a huge part in Penn State being relevant this year, and they were generally stout up front because of him.

 

Whatever you say. I wasn't reading every freaking internet mock draft, but I was following the major publications as well as NFLN and ESPN's websites. I'm sure if you look around you can find someone who had Tim Tebow going #1 overall...

 

Wow, someone sounds like they need to get off their high horse.

 

Top prospects mean nothing... Ireland and them got a job to do, just cause the Mel Kiper's and other know it all jackoffs calls them prospects does mean they are must haves. Vernon Gholston was a top prospect, Keith Rivers was a top prospect, lets see Adam Carriker, justin Harrell, peria jerry and on and on. The list is endless of top prospects that are mediocre to garbage players. Wait and see is all we can say so far this FO hasnt done bad on drafts yet so.... Stay tuned lol

 

You mean this website? http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft
the one that has Odrick right there on the rigth as one of the top 15 defenders in this draft? Overall one of the best 32 players in this draft?

 

They don't invite players to NY for the draft unless there is some consensus that they are a top player.

Unless they plan on putting this kid on the same dietary plan as Phillip "I blew the f up" Merling, this is an intruiging pick. Interested to see how things play out.

 

Odrick was Defensive Player of the Year in the Big Ten. People who knock him haven't seem him play.

 

You never have enough pass rushing DE's

Ask the Giants, it won them a super bowl over the Pats, Brady was on his back all game.

 

Wharfie's in town!!!

 

I don't believe you take a 3-4 DE in the first round REGARDLESS of team needs. However considering our team needs I'm even less of board with it.

It isn't about who we picked...it's that I don't believe who we picked impacts our football team much, if at all.

He could end up being a well above average 3-4 DE...and I'm still not sure it's worth a first rounder/

 

OMG KP...let it go already! JT is gone dude. He's a Jesticle now. And, yes...you were very outspoken about not wanting him back. And, guess what...you got your wish. So, be happy...K? Gee whiz bro...I ain't hatin' on ya, but man you got a way of just

As for your assessment on Odrick, maybe you're right and maybe you ain't. I'll admit, he wasn't who I wanted (I wanted Hughes), but the thing 'bout drafts is you gotta wait and see how the player actually plays to know whether or not he was a good pick. And, you gotta give the player time too (2-3 years is probably a good rule of thumb).

And, I believe the FO knows a little better than the average fan board poster who's good, and who fits their scheme. That's you, me, and everyone else here. So, let's give them (and the player) the benefit of the doubt for now, K?

Go Phins!

 

Since the draft is all about 'what if' speculation...would he be worth a first rounder if he becomes Richard Seymour for a decade or more?

 

Odrick IS a TOP 10 talent and that's why Miami picked him.

This guy on a LOT of mocks was expected to go to Cleveland at 7. The lowest I saw him on any respectable mock was 25 to Baltimore. So he indeed was BPA.

Starks and Odrick inside in dime situations. Hot damn at that inside push.

It also makes sense with the move to a more 3-4 attacking defense instead of the 3-4 clogging defense.

 

Magic 8 Ball, don't you think the acronym "IMHO" should be required when offering up subjective opinion as predictive "facts" ???

 

Not if Earl Thomas becomes Ed Reed. Seymour falls into the class of one of the elite 3-4 DE's of all time IMO. So sure. However I dont expect him to become that good.

 

Where did you find a picture of Rex Ryan's spring break?

 

He's a beast. but we have a pro bowl DE on one side and one of the most under rated DEs in langford in the other. merling and mcdaniels behind them so we are good at depth...

no one can explain why this was a correct pick with Hughes was on the board...

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You know this how? do you have a crystal ball?

just because YOU don't agree doesn't mean its a bad pick..I'll put my trust in our FO over what people on a message board think....

 

yes you can actually. specially when you have 2 beasts at that position already. We have someone that can play NT on passing downs and get after the passer. we have one olb that's going to get after the passer. and zero to play the run.

I love him as a player, but are we going to pick an OT in the 2nd? or a CB?

we just picked a player at possibly our strongest position outside of OT!

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I would probably rather pick Matthews at 12 and trade Ronnie for a 2. RB isn't as strong of a position as DE is for us..

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The fact you could read a newspaper to see that JT was probably through here, will hardly qualify you to get that Jr Guru badge.....

However, you could easily advance yourself towards that goal by getting down off your perch, shut the crowing up and read what many here are trying to explain concerning the Odrick pick.

It wasn't a back up plan to Dan Williams........Williams isn't even close to the prospect Odrick is in terms of talent. We traded down and pretty much took what was offered, everyone knew we needed to recoup that 2nd rounder, we had little leverage to get more. And Odrick at #28 is excellent value.

This was a Nolan pick. He needed an upgrade in order to get the kind of penetration and disruptive force he's seeks from his DL.....


Call it what you want....say we're just a bunch of homers trying to make excuses for the pick, whatever...the fact is you just don't get it.

I suggest less of this

And maybe more of this

 

you're so creative.

 

Not so, we are installing a 3/4-4/3 hybrid defense, Odrick will play inside, and outside, he collapses pockets and has enough speed to play end.

Which is why we drafted him to make Mike Nolan's defense work.

 

And you wanted Hughes for that? You realize Hughes is weak against the run and would have been purely a Wake style pass rusher.

I expect us to find an OLB that can also play the run well when they do pick one.

 

How anyone is saying that we had "beasts" at DE last year is beyond me. Or line was good, but no one was a "beast.". I like Merling and Langford, but they aren't superstars.

 

we have 3 guys that can kick inside in a hybrid defense...next

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We have 2 that can now. Starks and Odrick that can provide a serious pass rush. Merling/Langford don't really bring enough pass rush if were morphing into a Nolan 1 gap attacking 3-4.

Heavy rumor right now is we are trading a 4th or 5th for Cliff Avril who will slide in as an OLB in our defense. Heavy rumor is were also trying to trade up right now higher into the 2nd to grab Kindle.

 

funny thing is Hughes would of been our best run defender at OLB, that's how bad we are there. Hughes would have been best pass rusher and run defender..

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3 players, not 3 players whose talent is best used in that situation.

Nolan needs specific players for his scheme not just "whomever', thusly Odrick is now a Dolphin.

 

Langford is very good. and merling is a back up. a good one too...

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How do you figure? Even on the NFLN they stated Hughes wasn't strong vs the run. He went to Indy where they don't have an emphasis on their pass rushers being able to defend the run. Right now Moses is our best run defender and he does so better then Hughes.

Merling has been put on notice by Sparano as someone who needs to improve...and Sparano rarely speaks ill of a player.

 

so basically your telling me we drafted him so we have a good pass rush from the 4-3, when we play it? that makes a terrible pick then. you don't take a 1st round guy for that. there's plenty of DTs that can be a situational pass rusher

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Your right Moses is better. but hughes is better then wake vs. run. and of course they want merling to improve. he was #33 pick and alls he is, is a good back up. he would be an average starter
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Randy Starks was arguably the best 3-4 DE in the league last year.

 

Gee that sounds familiar. In fact, it's almost the EXACT words that people used when anyone criticized the Ted Ginn pick, or the various horrible first round picks that Wannstedt made.