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Dolphins asking questions about Groves' heart

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  1. ATVZ400

    ATVZ400 Senior Member

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    http://dolphinsindepth.blogspot.com/2008/04/dolphins-asking-questions-about-groves.html



    The Dolphins are seriously re-examining their initial opinion of Auburn LB/DE Quintin Groves following the news that he underwent heart surgery late last month.

    Groves reportedly sent letters to all 32 NFL teams to inform them of the surgery and allay any fears that might result in him dropping like a boulder in water during the upcoming draft. Groves' letter explained that his surgery, which is considered a minor procedure, was conducted to correct his Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome.
     
  2. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Of course we have to. It sucks for him, but this may be another reason we take C Long or Gholston 1st and then go O line at 32.
     
  3. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    When I clicked on this thread, I thought it was about like his dedication to the game lol not literally his heart. Interesting though, does anyone think this could affect his draft stock?
     
  4. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    hell yea it will.
     
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  5. alen1

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    Ooo. How far do you think it could drop him? Third round?
     
  6. slickj101

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    Depends what other information comes out about his situation. Nobody wants to draft a guy high, pay him a ton and then have him miss the majority of the season no matter what. This has to effect Miami's entire game plan if we were thinking of going J Long/Groves for 1 and 2.
     
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  7. like2god

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    It may cause him to drop in the draft if he has an underlying problem that caused it in the first place. I just read up on it (my new hobby) and if he has "Ebstein's anomaly" he will develop the same problem again. In some cases there is a risk of sudden cardiac death. On the flip side, if he doesn't have an underlying problem, there is a chance that he could be clear of all symptoms and medically cured.

    I'm sure interested teams will be digging very very deep to find out his condition.
     
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  8. alen1

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    That's scary for not just teams but himself. That could be HUGE in his stock. If he has Ebstein's anomaly, is there a chance he slips to like fourth round or even later?
     
  9. like2god

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    I have no clue, I would think it would cause him to fall pretty far, but there are teams that like to take risks. Your guess is as good as mine.
     
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  10. Larry Little

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    Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome isn't a huge deal. The procedure to correct the problem is somewhat minor, and has an excellent success rate. Groves should be fine... and I hope he falls right to us at #32.
     
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  11. BuckeyeKing

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    Merling and Groves falling fast.
     
  12. alen1

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    If he has it, I would think the farthest he slips would be maybe fourth or fifth round. I couldn't see a talent like his slip that late. I mean he is a hell of a talent but if its something serious like that then it makes it difficult.
     
  13. alen1

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    Why Merling?
     
  14. BuckeyeKing

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    Sports Hernia.
     
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  15. alen1

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    Oh yeah thats right. Thanks, totally forgot he had that.
     
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  16. BuckeyeKing

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    Np. It should be interesting. I mean if we take Jake Long I think Groves is there at 32.
     
  17. alen1

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    I agree with you. Im wondering if this heart surgery will affect him at all and let us take him in the third?
     
  18. BuckeyeKing

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    I dunno how severe a injury like that is.
     
  19. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    Earlier in this thread, this is what L2G and LL said about it.......

     
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  20. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    If you haven't clicked on the blog, do so. Armando has this condition as well. So he has some insight.

    Apparently surgery is more of a last resort when medication doesn't work. But he stands a good chance of being completely cured.
     
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  21. PhinsRock

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    Woah, this is a huge red flag for me, and should be for the Phins.
     
  22. slickj101

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    Question is: Has he or will he be cured before the draft? Im guessing that it's still gonna be a question since its only 2 weeks away. I don't like the idea of taking him at 32, too much of a gamble for that pick.

    Just another reason to take Chris Long.
     
  23. mason

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    For me there are two ways to look at this;

    1. groves stock drops, we are able to pick up a superbly talented player at the top of the second. If we went J. long than our draft would already be superb. Except do we want to gamble that he drops, or can play for years or do the Trifecta (cool nickname) go for security?

    2. Security is the second problem- Our team is woeful,and every pick needs to count. Could information on this injury cause Groves to fall off our already small draft board already? He could be a fantastic pick, but could also be a wasted "low first round" pick.

    I'm afraid the trifecta won't spend one of our top four draft picks on a gamble, which will probably be after another team takes a flyer on him.


    on a side note- if we were being risky on grabbing injured DEs, would you all rather have groves or merling?
     
  24. Larry Little

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    Given the fact that Groves has played at a very high level through high school and 4 years at Auburn, I don't think his condition is going to effect his play. The surgery he had doesn't simply treat the syndrome... it cures it. Here's a link for anyone who wants to know more about it:

    Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome
     
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  25. alen1

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    Groves.
     
  26. like2god

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    Yes, but if there is an underlying problem (Ebstein's anomaly) that is causing Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome, the problem will unfortunately continue.

    Another thing that we should keep in mind is that one of the first things that Parcells commented on when he got the job was that he was concerned with all of the injuries. He clearly stated that was going to change.


    Now does that mean that he will stay away from guys like Groves that have medical red flags? Does he mean that he'll only stay away from guys that have missed game time or have had reoccuring injuries (injury prone)? Both?

    It all comes down to what caused the WPW that Groves had. Personally I think Parcells will stay away from that type of thing, but I've been wrong before.
     
  27. Larry Little

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    I haven't read anything about Groves having Ebstein's anomaly. If it's valve-related, then there may be a lingering problem, but from what I understand, he only had a bit of a short-circuit. They cutoff the nerve, and he's all better.

    Groves was interviewed on Sirius NFL radio today. They asked him about his surgery, and he said he was doing great. Of course... what's he going to say? :wink2: He did say he was visiting a LOT of team right now. The Jets and the Pats, then he was flying to San Fransisco. He's going out of his way to let everyone know he's fine.

    I think it boils down to whether the Phins are confidant the problem has been fixed or not. From what I know right now, I think it's pretty unlikely it will ever be an issue again. That being said, I think he's one of the more exciting players in the draft, and I'll do cartwheels if we end up with him at #32.

    If Groves does have a lingering problem... then that's too bad. He's one helluva player. If he suits up for Miami next season, they'll end up selling a LOT of "Groves" jerseys. Us fans would love him.
     
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  28. DOLPHAN1

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    it's difficult to say what BP will do but i would imagine a roster as short of bodies let alone talent, one would not risk or gamble much in year one or two. to me the the smart thing to do would be have two or three good drafts/FA periods before taking risks on players.
     
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  29. like2god

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    You're probably right, and unfortunately that doesn't bode well for one of my draft targets in Brad Cottam. :sad:
     
  30. like2god

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    Sorry brother, I hope my posts didn't come across as arguing. I just get very skepticle and cautious when it comes to players hiding the severity and causes of their injuries, especially around draft time. I hope that Groves is healthy and has a long and productive career in the NFL, unless of course he ends up on the Pats, Jets or Bills. ;)
     
  31. jason8er

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    Absolutely. Especially with all the talent available this year at #32.
     
  32. Larry Little

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    Not at all, bro! This is just a friendly discussion. :up:
     
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