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DRAFT POLL: What is Miami's #1 Need?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by His'nBeatYour'n, Dec 10, 2007.

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Who fits Miami's #1 Need

  1. Darren McFadden RB Arkansas

    20 vote(s)
    24.4%
  2. Chris Long DE Virginia

    17 vote(s)
    20.7%
  3. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU

    42 vote(s)
    51.2%
  4. Sedrick Ellis DT USC

    3 vote(s)
    3.7%
  5. Jake Long OT Michigan

    9 vote(s)
    11.0%
  6. Matt Ryan QB BC

    11 vote(s)
    13.4%
  7. James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State

    2 vote(s)
    2.4%
  8. Brian Brohm QB Louisville

    8 vote(s)
    9.8%
  9. Derrick Harvey DE Florida

    2 vote(s)
    2.4%
  10. Calais Campbell DE Miami

    2 vote(s)
    2.4%
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  1. studsatele

    studsatele New Member

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    well fellas. im afraid ill have to go away from dorsey here. my belief here is that the number 1 pick should be a playmaker. descent teams have evapurated dorsey at will. im sorry but they have. thats college. now what do you think pro teams are gonna do to him?

    im not saying playmakers are guys who touch the ball only. id have no problem with chris long. or jake long. or vernon gholston. but some people here have discarded mcfadden. wrong answer. this guy is stupid talented. playmaker for days. with ronnies injury he has to be considered. although only in correlation with a ronnie trade. we are not gonna get a 1st for him. but a potential 2nd or so is not out of the question.

    now for my vote. matt ryan is my pick. is john beck our guy? hmmmmm. sorry. my crystal ball is not working right now. we do not have a defenant spiral chucker. until we fix our line of scrimage on both sides and have a smart, poised, accurate passer. everything else is a moot point. will ryan be that guy? i dont know. but will dorsey solidify our middle. stop teams from running down our throats? well auburn. florida. arkansas. plus a few others. have erased him. we will see if he does well in the bcs title game. if so than he might be something to look at. if not i wouldnt even look at him.

    now for my last point. i would much rather be wrong. guessing. while trying to fix this qb situation. than i would. guessing. while picking an injured dt who might not even account for anything, in the biggest game at his level of football.
     
  2. zachblitz54

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    Exactly. Ronnie will probably not be 100% at all in 2008. Even healthy, Ronnie is really not a game breaking back. Ronnie punishes tacklers and gets his yards, but he is not a break-away threat and IMO he doesn't always see the field well. Don't get me wrong, I love having Ronnie around and hope he comes back soon.

    Darren MCfadden just brings a whole different package. He can run over people, but his best attribute, IMO, is the way he sees lanes and accelerates through them. He is a true game-breaker. He is as close to a "sure thing" pick as you can get.
     
  3. padre31

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    By the time Ronnie is 100%, he will be in the last year of his contract.

    And it should be obvious, we cannot rely on him for the future for us.

    The Jags could wait on Fred Taylor, we aren't the Jags, we have wasted too much time as it is.
     
  4. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    It is hard enough to justify a runningback in the first 10 picks as it is. Unless the draft pick is Adrian Peterson type and McFadden is no Adrian Peterson.
     
  5. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    My god get over it people. Teams with as many glaring holes as Miami do not draft in the one position they are pretty good in. Get over it now or prepare for HUGE disappointment draft day.

    Even if the team parts ways with Ricky/Chatman, they still got a promising Booker. If the team feels they need an insurance policy you don't spend the #1 overall pick on an insurance policy. You can dig up backs in the 4th/5th who can fill in for any injury concerns or heck just keep Chatman. Fluke year that were having so many injury issues with our RB's.
     
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  6. padre31

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    Actually Van, a Left Tackle is emerging that would make a heck of alot of sense to draft, we could move Carey back to RT and have a two for one position switch that is needed on the Oline.

    Van, can we hook you up to a heart monitor on draft day, we probably could redline the thing....:lol:
     
  7. padre31

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    Curious, what makes you say that?
     
  8. NaboCane

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    which left tackle, padre?
     
  9. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Due to the nature of the runningback position, generally they have shorter careers so to use a top 5 pick on shorter career runningback seems to be a high risk investment. Also the fact that runningbacks taken in later rounds are generally near as good as top flight runningbacks that are taken in the first round. Also in the NFL as it stands now top flight runningbacks are very devalued in comparison to other positions. Which is why a runningback that is as good as S. Jackson could fall as far as he did.

    It is just not a position to take in the top five unless he is LT, Dickerson, Peterson or anyone else who just super special. Or unless the draft is actually really weak at the beginning when Ronnie Brown was drafted.
     
  10. padre31

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    Clady from Boise State.

    If we go in that direction, if we are approached by say the Jets, we can swap picks in the high first round and pick up a 2nd or third.
     
  11. kadiddlehopper

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    A real #1 LT, whoever that may be. Put VC back on the right side.
     
  12. VanDolPhan

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    You know I was talking about McFadden ;p

    At least a LT would play every snap and improve not only the line itself, but create more holes to keep linemen off our RB's and buy that extra second for our QB's. That makes sense if there is one worthy of it. We shall see if Clady makes that move.

    Hell it's all speculation right now. Chances are 3 of the current top 5 won't be top 5 come draft day. Things always change long before the draft.

    People are only focusing on Ronnie's injury which wasn't as bad as most and should be ready for training camp. At worse he starts off a bit slow. However teams can't abandon someone who was literally the offensive star of this team until the injury (leading the league in yards from scrimmage). It was more then running the ball with Ronnie. He was excellent at blocking (notice our OL hasn't looked as good since he went down? Ronnie was excellent at picking up blitzers) and Ronnie is a good receiver out of the backfield.

    Hell remember Cedric Benson was supposed to be the "man" of his class yet 2 RB's went before him.
     
  13. padre31

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    So it is more positional then personal with McFadden?

    With luck, McFadden really blows up the private work outs as I somewhat doubt that he will go to the combine.

    4.3 or something would really help us out.
     
  14. VanDolPhan

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    Indeed. Trades rarely happen in the top 5 anymore. If Miami can pick up more picks that would be the best case scenario by far. Highly unlikely though.
     
  15. NaboCane

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    i like clady...i do like otah better though.

    i believe that otah might be the #1 tackle by draft day.

    mid 1st, you can't go wrong with clady, long or cherilus.
     
  16. padre31

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    If we draft McFadden and you suddenly stop posting, we will know your head exploded...:lol:




    Yes it would make a heck of alot of sense for us, our oline would improve, and that would move our offense up the ladder all the faster.

    Heck yes, then the "hype" machine starts, and the desparate GM's and coaches make short term decisions, poor short term decisions..

    BTW, Gaines Adams has done very little for the Bucs the last time I checked, if I had a nickel for every "sure fire NFL player who brings speed and quickness to.." via Mel Kiper I would be a wealthy man indeed.


    Ronnie's polished skills is one of the thing that makes sense about taking McF, Ronnie could be the all around back and McF could be the home run guy with ronnie blocking....

    And the injury thing drives me up a wall as a Fan, we just don't know, all we will hear is "successful rehab" as in his leg didn't fall off, it was the same story with C-pep, we heard -0- nothing at all.

    Ronnie has had his surgery, yet I've never read a thing about how severe it was, prognosis, nothing....

    Benson reminded me of Ricky in the mental department Van, no kidding, I've forgotten why that was, but he just didn't seem to have the noggin screwed on straight IMO.
     
  17. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Well that and need. I am a BIG fan of lines and believe it all starts there. Having a great DT would help this team out a lot. Having a great OT would help this team out a lot. Dorsey has a chance to become a special DT.

    I am also a pretty big fan of McFadden. Just don't think he is the best choice for the Dolphins for next year and the future.
     
  18. padre31

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    I'm just not that high on Glenn Dorsey for value, we need so much help on the Dline that Dorsey would be a non factor for us, a Lt if they could step in would instantly improve our Offense.

    On the Dline we really should focus our resources outside of the #1 pick to deal with our problems their, we have another #1, and we may send JT down the road so we will need a DE as well.

    I like the thought of a Fred Okam at #32 not so much a Dorsey at #1.
     
  19. Believerinteal

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    If the Dolphins didn't have the #1 pick (and it's not a done deal mathematically yet), then I don't think drafting Dorsey or drafting Jake Long would raise any eyebrows as they would both fit gigantic needs on this team. However, both of them don't appear to be worthy of the #1 overall pick glory, while McFadden for some reason is, and if he was selected, he wouldn't even be a feature back. The arguement people put that this will be like Reggie Bush and Deuce McAllister is just stupid because New Orleans had a QB and receivers who could catch the ball.

    I don't think Beck is this bad, but I don't think Ryan or Brennan will be the solution because those are QB's whom the team would need to be built around, instead of being used as someone to hand the ball to Ronnie.
     
  20. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    BPA would likely be McFadden. Dorsey's good but I don't think a defensive tackle is necessarily worth a 1st overall pick much less a top 5. Talent levels are a lot different in the pros and DT isn't really a skill position. The last DT chosen #1 overall was Dan Wilkinson. Remember him? Of the last few years, the only DT's who have even come close to warranting their top 9 pick are DeWayne Robertson (though that's a push), Richard Seymour (who also is a DE), and Corey Simon.

    I'd love to land a nice WR with enough size to win most jumpballs, good instincts/focus, good hands, and with decent speed (think Moss, TO, Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Braylon Edwards, and the list goes on). But there aren't really any in this draft worth that spot. Bowman, Hardy (if he declares), and Kelly are the ones I'd have tabbed. Speed doesn't matter if the other guy can keep up and you've got a safety ahead of you anyways.

    I'd love to trade down but it's easier said than done. I wish we didn't draft Beck so we can have a shot at grooming a young QB. Mueller's known to draft QB's even with solid ones on the roster. If he does draft a Brohm or a Ryan, I won't hold it against him.
     
  21. DeDolfan

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    Dorsey altho his durability worries me some.
     

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