Dolphins interested in Boldin?

Trying to force a trade is not "without complaint" he threatened to not show up for training camp last year.
You sign a bad deal,thats your own hindquarters,whining about it 2 out of the last 3 seasons shows your a malcontent.
An aging malcontent at that,with a history of injuries.
Worked out great for the Eagles with TO didnt it?Marvin Harriwho?Cris Carter,great pickup for us.Tim Brown really put the Bucaneers over the top.

 

I don't know about you but, if I signed a contract, and out preformed it by leaps and bounds, I would be looking for a raise.

Been there, done that, got the raise. I also had a contract where I reduced my fee because it was fair, and the right thing to do. Just business.

 

Not to mention
Laverneus Coles-4th round
Marty Booker-3rd round
Steve Smith-3rd round
Hines Ward-3rd round
Terrell Owens-3rd round
Before blowing a 3rd rounder on a noted pain in the hindquarters,who gets hurt alot,draft better.

 

brother man there is nothing more I want for this team to have a legit number one receiver...my point is if your going to do it, get a legit number one....Boldin is nice, but he scares me with the age, and injuries....if he was uninjured I would even say do it, but its both, once u have injuries, age makes them never go away...dude we need to have beer come down to RI, take the sled!![/QUOTE]

Yeah, we should get rid of Ronnie, Grove, Smiley, Crowder, and W allen for the same reason.

DAMN, can we draft twice, in each round, because of player's like this?

 

You can't have it both ways FY, those "#1 Wr's" did not all show up in one draft, TO was drafted back in 1997, there were what 13x32 picks in the third round since then, care to guess how many "#1 Wr's" came out of that round over 13 yrs?

Fair to say a small handful?

3 maybe? 4?

 

I would not. Let him prove himself to Miami. JMO

 

13 yrs is a heck of broad brush, 384 players taken in the 3rd round since TO was drafted, and what..5 became ersatz "#1 Wr's"?

 

In his one season W/O Fitz, his rookie season mind you this is how he did.

2003: Rookie Season
Rec: 101
Yrds: 1,377
Avg: 13.6
Lng: 71 Yard TD
TDs: 8

He was the Cards #1 receiver and looking at those numbers I would assume he faced every kind of coverage even double teams. The man is a beast. You plug him in and he's ready to go from day one.

If we can get him for a 3rd and a new contract you have to consider it.

 

for every successful wr taken in the 3rd round, i could name about 50 failures.

The draft isn't a total crapshoot, but it's no where near exact science either. Case in point: Patrick Turner (so far anyway.) We believe Parcells and Co. are fantastic talent evaluators right? Well this guy didn't even get on the field this year. Does that mean Parcells has no idea what he's doing? No. It just means the draft is more about luck than some think.

 

I'd offer a third round pick in a heartbeat. Want a third and fifth? Fine. Want a third and Joey Porter? Also fine. Bottom line: Acquiring Anquan Boldin for anything less than a first or second round pick (or equal value to that, i.e. say Chad Henne or Vonte Davis - JUST AN EXAMPLE) is a win. What's at risk? OK, he gets injured and misses a game or two or three or four... maybe he helps take you to the playoffs and is unable to help there after because of another injury. Well, you're giving up a third round pick. It's well worth the risk for a Pro Bowl caliber receiver when healthy.

Anquan Boldin is a legit #1 WR in this league and there is no questioning that.

 

Yep. And this isn't a one or two dimensional guy. There is nothing he can't do. Perhaps he's injury prone because of how he throws his body out there... this guy is a monster. He'll line up in the slot, beat a line backer to the first down marker, and take an absolute beating from a hard hitting safety... and still keep his feet moving. He's not injury prone because he's fragile; he's injury prone because he fights for extra yardage like a 250 pound running back.

And of course he can do damage on the outsides as well. Boldin is a beast.

 

It is being screwed relative to what similarly productive WRs get paid. And he didn't *****. He said I'm under paid and everybody agreed. He basically did the same thing Fitzgerald did and nobody considers him a diva.

And the "he signed a contract" argument is ridiculous. The system is set up where player's contracts are renegotiated when the player outperforms it and they're cut when they under perform it. He didn't get that renegotiation b/c he had the bad fortune to be drafted by a team that had a surplus at the position.

 

What the hell does history matter in the draft? Each year is entirely different with the quality and quantity available.

You can spin the draft's to say whatever you like. The bottom line is that it is a crap shoot, some expertise, and a lot of luck.

 

That's the way contracts work. It seems that people calling him a malcontent have very little understanding of that.

 

He's allready missed 17 games in his 7 year career,he's only played 2 of those seasons from beginning to end,and he isnt getting any younger.
No way do I blow a 3rd on him

 

You don't trade for him without having a contract agreement in place. That's the standard for 99.9% of trades.

 

The holdouts or the guys who are disruptive are the malcontents. Just asking to be paid commensurate with similar players and not holding out or being negative in any way is not being a malcontent.

 

13 yrs and 365 picks and 4 "#1 wr" has everything to do with trading a #3 for Boldin, basically there is no shot at landing a #1 in that draft position.

amazing, a 13 yr history is "spin" that same stretch saw less than 4 #1 Wr come out of the round, that makes Boldin a good value for the pick

 

Actually there were at least 5 more,I was too lazy to type them all out

 

Realistically, the most you can hope for from any player is 3-4 years. That's your typical contract length. The advantage from draft picks is that other than the top 5 or so picks you get them cheap. The disadvantage is that you don't know what you're getting and you have to wait for them to develop.

 

"Injury Prone", I get it he's missed 17 games in 7 seasons due to injury's. That part I fully understand. This is a tough guy though. When you get your face fractured and have to have surgery to repair it and still come back a couple weeks later w/o fear like he did that's a tough SOB. He does the things we wish Ginn would do. He's physical, doesn't run out of bounds. Looks for contact and runs over CB's and safeties. If he ran out of bounds like Ginn he probably would never get injured. When you have a player like that you take the good with the bad.

Not only would he help our passing game tremendously he's also the type of receiver that's going to make a large impact on our running game.

I'm all for building through the draft. When done properly the result is amazing as it allows you to contend now and for years to come, but when given the opportunity to bring in proven commodity and to do it for a 3rd round pick it is something you need to look at.

 

Not this year, the #12 is too valuable to surrender even for your Boy Brandon Marshal (saw you query Caplann about it..) because if Marshal flames out in Miami we are set back 2 years unless Ireland pulls a late round rabbit out of the hat.

Q just makes soo much sense, especially if we can bundle Porter up to get him.

Thnk of it this way, we add a #1 Wr, subtract a headache, and keep Porter away from the AFCE and in fact move him out of the AFC altogether.

I'd pay a #1 pick for a #1 Wr, but only if I had to..

 

GODDAMNIT!!! I thought I was agreeing with you.

 

I luv ya bro and with all due respect this man is a beast..

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Fantastic. So now the likelyhood of finding a #1 WR in the later rounds of the draft moves up by less than 1%.

As I said before, you get what you pay for. You can continue to invest those late rounders in hopes of uncovering a gem, but the chances of acquiring that gem are remote, at best.

Just don't complain when in 2 years, we still don't have a legitimate weapon on the outside to complement our young QB.

 

Cap is snowed in up in the NE, he is on everyday, check out the cat from MovetheSticks, Daniel Jeremiah an ex Scout, he is good as well.

JP isn't done FY, he would be the best passrusher on every other team in the AFCE instantly, Schoebel would be #2, as fans we can boo and hiss at him, even in a down year he still produced well.

He would have led every AFCE team in sacks in 09, I'm opposed to putting him on the Street to wind up with the Jest or the Patsies if sending him out west removes him as a problem for us, and adds AB in return, I'm all for it.

*edit to add Aaron Schoebel had 10 sacks, but is a DE and talked retirement, C Pace is #3 with 8 sacks.

 

hey why take one more when u have all these?? hahaha[/QUOTE]

Finyank,

IF these players play uninjured, we will have a top 5, or better OL, and possibly the best "overall" RB in the league. JMO

Adding Boldin, uninjured, to the mix would make our O special.

Think about the risk, and potential reward.

 

then think about marshall....25, beast, has never been injuried, does everything Boldin does just as good, and better, talks alot of s**t, but the Tuna will stick a sock in it....I know I'll save your fingers from typing....it is a pipe dream...I get that....after Porter this will never happen but hey a man can dream...[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your concern of my fingers. Next year, maybe we can afford a Marshall, or someone better. This year, we need that #1 for D.