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Is everybody as scared of 2011 like i am?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by pumpdogs, Feb 4, 2010.

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  1. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    I know we have another year and half to worry about it but it sure seems like we are going to have a strike in 2011.
    I feel that would be the year we will have a real chance at the super bowl.I can see them bringing in scabs again and putting us in hole we can't get out.That would be our luck.
     
  2. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    I doubt it they will think of something
     
  3. finz810

    finz810 Season Ticket Holder

    who knows... we said they'd fix the whole cap thing, and it hasnt happend... I could see a strike in 2011...but exactly why? I dont understand the full reason
     
  4. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    The reason i posted this is because i just heard the union leader on the nfl channel talking about it.The only thing i understood was the nfl players get 52% of the revenue and the owners want it at 41%.He also said the owners will not turn over thier books to show how much each team made last year with the exception of the packers who made 20 millon.
    This sounds like neither side is going to budge.
     
  5. finz810

    finz810 Season Ticket Holder

    By that I'd say yea, we'r goin into a strike 2011...time for THE REPLACMENTS!!! wheres Shane Falco lol
     
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  6. phinagan

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    Sounds to me like both sides need to do a little reality check. I love football and the Fins are my team, but at the end of the day it's still a game and doesn't put a dollar in my pocket or roof over my head.
     
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  7. finz810

    finz810 Season Ticket Holder

    yea but this game can mean a lot to alotta fans.. me for one if they go on strike im gonna have a ****ty *** year
     
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  8. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    I just watched that over the weekend.The movie made the players look like jerkoffs.
     
  9. finz810

    finz810 Season Ticket Holder

    some players are jerkoffs......Bart Scott * COUGH COUGH:up:
     
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  10. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    They'd be absolute idiots to strike.
     
  11. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    I agree the nfl is viewed as the ultimate sport as ratings are at an all time high.
    The unemployment rate is growing higher each month and people are going to be turned off of the nfl if they go on strike when the country is in such dire straits.
     
  12. Vengeful Odin

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    That's because the Packers are a publicly traded team. As such their earnings are open to the public.
     
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  13. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    What, nothing about the Owners locking the players out?

    What about them?

    They initiated this by abandoning the previous agreement 2 yrs ago, now the dip**** TV networks have prepaid 4 billion dollars for the 2011 season whether there are games or not.

    Meaning the Owners can simply pocket the 4 billion and save the salaries they would be bound to pay the players, they have every incentive to lock the players out and pay themselves 4 billion dollars split 32 ways.

    If the owners do lock the players out they had best work something out or I'm pretty much done with the NFL.
     
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  14. SeanP

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    It wouldn't be a strike from what I understand, it would be a lockout.

    Strike, the players refuse to play (they like the CBA, and want the same one to be resigned).
    Lockout, the Owners tell the players they don't like the current agreement, and are not obligate to pay them because it's expired.

    Anyways, thats just semantics.

    The owners know they stand more to lose by a Lockout than the players do. And the players know that too. Although the legal help they brought in does scare me a bit. It says they are in this one for the long haul.

    I'm fingers crossed, but pretty darn worried.
     
  15. FinsAreLife

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    I wasnt even concerned until recently. Things dont sound so great. It would be a disgrace if there was infact a lockout in 2011.
     
  16. pumpdogs

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    I do not know what i would do from sept to jan with no football.You might find me hanging from a tree,this my time of year to camp in the basement and hide from the wife.
     
  17. padre31

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    I feelya, what is worse is both sides are making money, some want to make all the money.

    As for what I'd do, the last real deal strike was in 87, and it lasted 5 or 6 games iirc and everything worked out, this one feels differently, in 87 it was clear there would be a resolution, in 2010...not so much.

    The UFL and CFL for me, I happen to like both leagues, but learned the hard way with the CFL it is best to like a team in your time zone (EST) because staying up until 1 am watching some Western Canadian football team to finish a game sucketh and sucketh hardeth.
     
  18. Rick 1966

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  19. Shamboubou

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    Strikes have really hurt the major sports in the past. Baseball and Hockey both suffered greatly from their strikes and I dont think that NFL wants to go through that. They right now are the biggest sport in America, I don't think they can afford to gamble that. Stranger things have happened and we are talking about the root of all evil, which changes everything and everybody.
     
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  24. CANEPHINS

    CANEPHINS No Tats & Dreads Allowed

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    Unions suck. They are the worst thing ever and do nothing to help business. These guys have a lifestyle that is better...hell, millions times better...than the old guys ever could have dreamed of. They have the world at their feet...the top game in the market...the ability to play at the highest level. Yet this isn't enough for them. Just like Fehr in baseball, Smith isn't out for the players best interest. He is out for his own agenda and that alone. He doesn't care about the game. He doesn't care about anyone but making his pockets fatter. These guys only have a limited window for which to play this game and taking a year away from them hurts them more than anything. It hurts them financially and in playing time. He doesn't care about that. He has already put the pieces in place for the strike: states that they won't want to play under a cap after 1 year of no cap. states that they owners get a cut and then the players get 52% of the remainder. states that on a scale of 1-10, it is a 14 in terms of there being a strike. He talks all how it can't be done, rather than how it can be done. Screw Smith and screw the union.

    The only players that have gripes are the old vets who have no benefits and no pensions. Those are legit gripes. These guys today have nothing that they should be griping about. You don't like it....go play arena football or go play in the CFL!
     
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  26. AbideN703

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    I don't want to see a strike but hey if it happens there isn't much we can do about it.
     
  27. Fin Fan In Cali

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    If they do it will cost both sides a lot of money. There will be fans that won't come back, because the prices are just getting away from reality of the blue collar hard working family. If they did not learn from baseball, then they will learn the hard way. I myself will probably not spend any money NFL wise.
     
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    Exactly, I'd still keep my thephins membership but the periphral things would not see a nickel.
     
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  29. Fin Fan In Cali

    Fin Fan In Cali Dolphin fan since 1970 Luxury Box

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    I am with you bro. I would finally get more into college football, and not look at the NFL ever the same again.
     
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    That will be the end of NFL Sunday Ticket for me for sure. That will bound to double in price and be out of my reasonable range. Why are these guys so greedy (on both sides) and about to kill the goose that laid the golden egg ???
     
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  31. Fin Fan In Cali

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    By the time they see the light bro, it maybe too late, and the damage could be very severe. I think they are totally under estimating the power of the fan, and what we have meant to the game and the league.:wink2:
     
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  32. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    We all don't always agree on this site but i could not have said it any better.
     
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  33. Killerphins

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    with you man sing it from the mountain tops

    we the fan are the customer
    the fan is the reason they pushed so hard to put this game on television long ago
    also the reason teams build bigger stadiums
    its so corporate now and everyone has there hand in the cookie jar
    i put a freeze on my nfl gear spending a while back
    of course i bought an afc east championship t shirt after last season and all
    and purchase sunday ticket to watch the games which could be a small part of the problem
    going back to your post honestly not a day goes by when i dont somehow feel im being cheated

    as a fan
     
  34. the 23rd

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    Fear not! we will have SuperBowl potential next year
    (needn't worry about 2011)
    the holes are filling in quickly
    the team is collectively stepping up
    very few needs: ILB, NT, WR, maybe a FS & TE

    we're three solid moves from a run on the BigEnchilada :yes: we will contend in 2010
     
  35. vt_dolfan

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    Im not one to buy into alot of the talk going on right now. In fact, expect the sound bites to get alot worse. But, thats how things like this go alot of times, and both sides finally come to the table an work it out. Its a very expensive game of chicken.

    One thing you havent heard about, is what the impact this will have on other things like networks CBS, Espn etc. You can guarantee they dont want a strike. Millions of ad revenue will be gone. They will put pressure to get something done.




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