In my view, Gilyard, Ford and Grice Mullen are similar players, Wr/Kr with speed but smallish in stature. I like Jacoby Ford, he is explosive and his draft cost would/should be relatively cheap, Gilyard is more a Wr than Ford, but he is wildly inconsistent and his Draft Cost will be higher than Ford as he is a more polished Wr. Ryan Grice Mullen spent last season in the CFL after washing out of the NFL, he ran a 4.3 at the 2008 Combine and his cost is...free...no draft picks needed, but as per usual with a CFLer he has the hurdle to overcome in the sense there is nothing invested in him in the form of Draft Picks. Which one or two do folks think would fit the best in Miami, if they would fit at all? All three lack size, all three are quick, one will cost more than others, one is free, one could go anywhere in the draft from the second round to the 4th or 5th round. For me, I like Grice Mullen as he has some pro experience and has a low Devone Bess style cost as a street FA. What say you?
i like ford because of ther potential matchup problems he poses with his speed. grice mullen could be good also but i have to see him play before i can say for sure. gilyard was very effective in the cincy offense and i think he'll be good in the pros but like you said he's the most expensive out of the three
I would love to see Gilyard play the slot for us. He has a great blend of speed and quickness. Gilyard would be a good upgrade. Ford is similar to Ted Ginn so not sure we would have a great deal of interest
At first blush, Ford wouldn't make sense, neither would Grice Mullen.. Unless they want to move Ted Ginn off of Kick Returns. Sparano has said, and appeared to be sincere, that he would save a roster spot for a player who specialized in Kick Returns, Chris Williams last preseason would have stuck if he had not had ball handling problems. And keep in mind, DBess was a poor punt returner.
I agree about needing a (punt) returner. I would not be upset with drafting Arenas either. He could help at Punt and Kick while still playing some corner. I know we drafted some (cb's) already but Arenas can help in multiple ways.
ford will run one of the fastest 40s at the combine. Hes a great punt returner and can have a great 1-2 punch on kr. Ill take ford
Good point, Arenas is most likely a 4th-5th rd pick, if he slid to the 6th he would make sense. The attraction of drafting a Wr for the role is we could use him in packages, a Cb would have a tougher time breaking in as a Dime or Nickel corner imho. If we went Db for the role, Kelvin rogers of UM Mankato would be a quite pickup as a UDFA or 7th rd pick. One of the attractions of Ryan Grice Mullin is he could be stashed on the practice squad rather easily.
60mm NCAA champion, and I like the way he does that job, Ford puts his shoulder down and initiates contact, he does not play scared as most track/football Wr/Kr types do. Haven't seen enough of RGM to say one way or another, what I know about him is his speed shows up on the field, he has a quick couple of first steps.
Brandon James of the Gators will probably go undrafted and while he will not help on anything but Kick and punt return he may be an option as UDFA
Have to agree here. He's Davone Bess on speed...with speed. His hands aren't as reliable, but he more than makes up for it with playmaking ability. Jacoby Ford is Ted Ginn 2.0 IMO. Not sure he's a great route-runner, but man can he fly.
I'm not really interested in spending a draft pick on another number 2/3 reciever, especially if it's a high draft pick. If there is anyone in the draft that could fit that mold that I would like us picking it would probably be Dexter McCluster, because he could fit multiple positions/jobs.
Which makes RGM all the more interesting, he won't cost what Gilyard will (mid level #2 pick) and he has more experience and is also cheaper to tryout than Jacoby Ford is.
If it were up to me and we don't land Dez in the 1st, or LaFell or Tate in the second, then I just sit tight and roll with Grice-Mullen.
I've watched pretty much every Clemson game the past 4 years. No offense to all but Ford is nothing like Ginn 2.0..... if anything he's more like the fearless DeSean Jackson 2.0 but with a frame conducive to adding more size. He would be ideal at our slot. I wouldnt even consider Gilyard over him. I know Mardy is quick, but he's not fast and we have enough slow to average speed WRs who dont scare teams. Ford opens up all kinds of possibilities.... and if he continues to add on size like he's doing (large powerful bubble) w/o sacrificing speed, I think the closest 2.0 reference would be Steve Smith. Ford is the reliable kind of kid who will attack the ball like Steve.
Ginn is and always has been a track guy playing football. Ford is a football guy's mentality who's used track to make him better and more conditioned..... and with free offseasons to now spend in the gym and not running track, we're going to see him blossom pretty quickly.
Well, the problem with Clemson Wr is route running, sometimes I wonder if Clemson is sort of the USC of the East Coast, they end up with tons of talent that comes to the NFL just under cooked. I do find RGM a interesting prospect, he has to know what an opportunity this is for him and spending a year in the CFL only should make him hungrier.
good points.... even against Clemson. LOL. I'm not terribly worried with Ford b/c there are ways we can involve him while he becomes a great route runner, not that he's that bad actually. He's made great strides each year to show me that this kid is far from being done. He's another one who is highly competitive, wants to be the best he can be, and has a huge sense of team. When coaches tell him he's going to need to bust his arse on timing and running precise routes, I can guarantee you he will give 110% doing so. I feel he's going to surprise people with how much more polished he is than people give him credit for due to his track background. It wouldn't shock me at all to see an out-of-no-where Eddie Royal type rookie year on the right team.
I kid you not, my first Jersey was Terry Allen back in the day. We'll see, I think RGM will surprise as well, when we go 4 wide Bess and RGM will be lined up on either side of the formation and will cause nightmares., at least that is what I "think" will happen and why we brought in a faster version of DBess.
He was one of the few good offensive ones. LOL. If RGM has potential here then I'm all for it. I just want to see some damn speed on the field for once outside of Ginn!!! I'm not preferential to Ford b/c he's from Clemson, but I do think he has potential to be something special 2-3 years from now. It'd be weird having 2 Hawaii WR's playing with eachother.... not sure this sounded right.
I will say this..... since next year is Ginn's last season before his contract year (and if Teddy doesnt shine during it), I'd want to trade him and have a burner primed to take over. IE Ford. Not to mention Ginn needs to be challenged. He's our only speed guy. A little competition might do him good next year.
Ford, meh, would be great on KR's and provides everything Ginn does, at a much lower cost. Gilyard, meh, more polished than Ford, but nothing special imo. RGM, meh, can't really say I know anything about him other than he's very similar to Bess, but could be our answer at PR. However, if it's a speedy guy we're looking for, I'll take Dexter McCluster everyday of the week and twice on sundays with Rejus Benn a close second. Now that guy is a playmaker. A playmaker running the ball. A playmaker catching the ball. And can possibly be a KR/PR. At 5'8", 165 lbs, ran for 1200 yards and 8 TD's at a 6.5 YPC clip in the SEC... Not to mention 44 catches for 520 yards and 3 TD's to go with it. If Spikes or Hughes are off the board when we pick in the 2nd, he has to be considered for an offense devoid of playmakers. McCluster, Rejus Benn, and Demaryius Thomas are my 3 favorite offensive players in the 2nd round with Benn and McCluster both doubling as return men.
