Ginn and Bess redemption...

Every game he has scored a TD in this year we've won.

10 of his 16 catches from losses came in one game. That would mean he had "little to no production" in the other 4 losses (which pretty much invalidates your whole argument). And of course "little to no production" in our wins is only the case if you ignore the fact that his TDs came in wins.

 

I didn't have any argument. I was looking at stats and posted what i saw. I left it open for anyone to determine what they mean. This is your analysis.....it seems well...........biased. Then again someone could always play devils advocate and say your right.........10 of his total catches did come in 1 game which means he has had a whooping total of 13 catches in 9 games for 142 yards and 1 TD(all year).....whoooooooohooooooo.

 

Of course.


And you did have an argument, you said:

And the above simply isn't true.

 

I am trying to follow your logic here.

First Am I confused that you consider 13 catches in 9 games PRODUCTIVE

Second 13 catches in 9 games for 142 yards is unproductive, therefor the games we did win, we won 5 of the 9, he didn't matter

If your gonna argue that having him keeps defenses honest, we can do that with anyone..........just run them deep every other play

Unless a miracle happens in the next 6 games......for the sake of the team, I only see us keeping Sperry, Bess and Camirillo

 

Please show me anywhere I said 13 catches in 9 games was productive. Please by all means show it to me. Because I never said it was. You want to use logic, fine. But don't say I said something that I didn't.

Again, you said:

He wasn't productive in ATL or SD. We lost.

He wasn't productive at WR in NO, we lost.

He wasn't productive at WR in NE, we lost.

Don't get mad at me when the things you post are wrong and you get called out for it.

Except that one of the wins we had Ginn accounted for 12 of our pts and 299 of our 422 yards gained.

In another one of our wins he accounted for 6 pts and 57 yards (2nd most receiving yards in the game for us).

So he absolutely mattered in 2 of our 5 wins, so again, you're argument that he didn't matter in the games we did win is wrong.

 

you can't compare Bess and Ginn ....

we got what we 'expect' out of Bess on THU ... a possession WR who made some nice catches across the middle and moved the chains.

equally, we got what we NOW expect out of Ginn ... field position on KOs ... and a couple come back routes along the sidelines .... but no big plays (the OLD expectation).

Now if i am a ST coach, i send my cover team down on the sides and leave the middle exposed, until Ginn shows that he is not afraid of contact and shoots a gap up the middle. as a PHINs fan, of course, i hope they don't do that - as we need the good field position that he has given us the last few games.

 

we're going to keep Sperry off one productive game? and get rid of ewveryone else other than bess and cam. me thinks we keep a few more than that

 

and if we do..........again we play mediocre football in 2010

 

and sitting at home with the rest of the team come playoff time

 

I've said this since the beginning, no one listened to me...

 

Marshall. Sorry, just bugs me.

 

Since you mentioned Henne. Man this guy is set to be awesome. He lacks the non personal tools to be great and is currently limited in what he will be able to do. I watched him very closely in this last game and the guy is a general. He doesn't make mistakes and doesn't get rattled.

Finally our replacement to "The Man" has arrived. Now all we need are a few linebackers, an almost complete wholesale change at receiver and we would be set!!!!!! I'm not saying this is all we need but it is 70% of it!!!! We are getting closer.......2 to 3 years for a serious run

 

Agreed. That gives us a great range of weapons. Although I'd still be looking for a TE the can threaten down the seam.