Best Linebacking corps in the AFC East

Eric Barton is in Cleveland, David Harris (the young up and coming stud) remains in New York. He will be in Ray Lewis' role in the Jet Defense.

Dude don't you know you can just PM me when you have a Jets question? C'mon padre!

 

Damn you have some names messed up in that poll padre. You must be bad with names.

Anyways, I'm going with the Jets here. Calvin Pace, Bryan Thomas/Vernon Gholston are the Outside guys, and although Miami has the best OLB by himself in Porter and the Patriots a close second with Adalius Thomas, the Jets have the better combination of both OLB's slightly. With Jason Taylor back in Miami, that could very well change.

When it comes to ILB, it isn't even close, the Jets trump everyone with Bart Scott and the young stud David Harris.

 

miami.....17 1/2 sacks in porter and 100+ tackles in crowder gives us the edge imo and jt

 

What are you talking about dude? I've been here almost everyday the past month.

 

Dolphins, because of versatility and depth.

 

Apparently Bart Scott is in the top five middle/inside linebackers, (despite the fact he's never played middle linebacker) according to Rod Woodson of NFL Network...

 

Seeing that neither Crowder or Ayodele would start on the Jets or Pats, I don't see how anyone could choose Miami. Taylor is a situational passrusher at this point in his career and Wake is a total unknown, so they aren't much of a factor either IMO. It's a tough call between the Pats and the Jets, but NY gets my vote.

 

I think he's just posted so much, and I post more in The Lounge and Club Level, that it makes it look like I don't exist. I know I am your favorite padre and that you long for my expert analysis.

The edge in depth I'm not really buying, I think both teams have some piss poor depth, IMO.

 

Mike once again being the wise, unhomerific man we all know he is.

 

That's if Vernon Gholston can actually play in the NFL which he hasn't shown yet.

 

Patriots have worked together and do not have new coaches. I choosed the Patriots because Mayo is looking good and Bruschi just makes too many big plays to discount him.

 

This is a pretty close one but ill go with the phins.

 

You can't show it when you're not given the chance.

You also need more than 1 year. People where bashing on Mario Williams after 1 year as well. Not saying Vernon will be that explosive, but you need to give players usually 3 years to see what they really are.

 

Hate to say it, but I had to go with the Patriots.

They've got a great young guy in Mayo, a very solid vet in Bruschi, and Mr. Versatility with Adalius Thomas.

Don't forget that they added Tyrone McKenzie through the draft, and it's entirely within the realm of possibility he ends up starting or at least making an impact for them at OLB.

 

I agree and that was where I waffled between the two, but the sack totals for the Pats LB's are....well....nonexistent. Thomas has 5, Woods has 1, Bruschi (considering retirement) and Mayo have zero. The Jets have a slight edge in that department, but they have better overall group talent IMO. The Pats are going to be relying on Woods, Crable and Banta-Cain to fight for a starting spot, so that takes something away from their unit if you're basing it off of big plays and experience. If the Pats still had Vrabel, then I would have gone with the experience/big play factor.

 

you are crazy if you think crowder wouldnt start over bruschi RIGHT NOW

 

Well, then I'm Mr. Crazy because Bruschi makes more plays in one game that Crowder does a season.

 

lmao

i guess if you mean....no fumbles.....no ints......and only 75 tackles......is more plays then crowders 113 tackles....92 solo....and a ff.....but to each his own

 

Not this year he won't. He's out for the season.

And I voted Fins

 

One season doesn't make a player and tackles do not tell the entire story. The tackles could be 5, 10, 15 yards down the field. This is like Jets fans and Jonathan Vilma. Great tackle numbers but he wasn't exactly stuffing them at the L.O.S. or for 1, 2 yard gains.

Where were the tackles made is the key.

Bruschi is way more important and skilled than Crowder.

 

no but when the discussion is making plays......tackles and forced fumbles....and solo tackles are more important......then none no?

if tackles "arent everything" then what is less of that "not the whole story" mean?!

 

thank god. the one friend i have in the league, had to be a freakin Jet.

 

1 Forced Fumble isn't really an overwhelming statistic. The solo numbers are nice, but still, is that tackle coming 5, 10 yards down the field or within the first 3 yards of the L.O.S.?

 

You are friends with Eric Barton?

 

my question is this......

what is more important....crowder making a solo tackle 5 yards down the field....

or bruschi not making the tackle AT ALL????

i would take a guy thats always around the ball on my team

crowder-92 solo
bruschi - 38 solo

 

yeah, went to u of maryland with him. knew a bunch of those guys, some had short stints in the pros. the most famous of em all, kevin plank, i never got to know well during my time there. he's the dude who founded under armour

 

Very cool. Thanks for hooking me up with sideline passes while he was here.

 

he was a special football player. started ILB as a true freshman, and was instantly the best of the unit. dude is 32, had himself a really nice long nfl career.

 

I don't know why he followed Mangini to Cleveland, I'm guessing the only reason was so that he could start and wasn't getting many other offers. He wasn't one of the 3 players dealt in the Sanchez deal, he was a UFA.

One of my favorite Jets while he was here though, very much so. I'm surprised I never purchased his jersey.

 

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Bro, Crowder doesn't make plays, he lets plays come to him. When he tries to create something he ends up taking bad angles towards the ball carrier. That's something that all Miami fans have knocked him for since he's been here, it's nothing new. That isn't something that can (or has) been said about Bruschi, he plays big even though he doesn't put up gaudy stats. Is his career winding down? Sure, but he's still a better player at this point than Crowder has been at any point in his career.

 

disagree 1000% but i respect it

 

Exactly what I wanted to say and 100% spot on.

 

Crowder is a good starter, but Ayodele is what he is... We have the best OLBs but our ILB is what kills is. After the Bart Scott signing, the Jets have the best LB squad in the East. Calvin Pace did pretty well and if Gholston pans out, they'll have a sick linebacker corp for years.