The Official Miami Heat Return to the Playoffs Thread.

If we stand pat, I would not mind adding former crackhead Chris "Birdman" Anderson for a portion of the mid-level...

 

Probably one of the the ugliest men in the NBA.

 

It was a good run Heat fans, you guys improved so much since last year. I hope you keep it going this offseason and hopefully you'll be even better next year. Here's to a successful offseason.

 

We are not getting Chris Bosh via trade without parting with Beasley.

 

They can get much better from a team like Chicago unless we're willing to unload Beasley.

And don't be so sure about Bosh signing with Miami in 2010. You can't be sure about any of this. 2010's summer will be a jungle.

If you have a chance to get YOUR GUY NOW then you do it.

 

LOL... there is no way in hell a core of Wade, Beasley, and Wallace = championship.

I don't see a core of Wade, Beasley, and Wallace being good enough to go up against the elite teams in the Western Conference. You need a guy who can bang in the post if you want to win a title in today's NBA. I view Michael Beasley more as an off the dribble guy than a post presence offensively, at least right now. Of course he can develop a low post game, but it's not there yet. I don't want to bank on it getting there either. Gerald Wallace is the perfect player to have as a third option to Wade and a big man, though.

BTW - what are you suggesting we'd give up in return for Gerald Wallace? Charlotte actually made an offer to Miami last year. They've BEEN trying to get out of the contract they gave him, but not for a bag of Doritos.

 

Also, I don't think some of you realize how much we have to offer on the trade market. We have the pieces necessary to make a Boston Celtics 2007-2008 type of turn around as early as this summer. Michael Beasley obviously may be able to net you a guy like Chris Bosh or Amare Stoudemire, and I think people underestimate how valuable of a trade chip Jermaine O'Neal will be. He's got a $20+ million expiring contract, and we all know how valued expiring contracts are in the NBA. If we, for whatever reason, swing a Beasley deal for one of those guys... Jermaine O'Neal might be able to land us an All Star caliber three with a long contract like Caron Butler or even Gerald Wallace as previously mentioned by Section.

If Pat Riley sacrifices youth for opportunity to contend now... I don't blame him. Dwyane Wade will be 28 years old in January. As much as I hate to admit it, he's an olddddddd 27 right now with his style of play.

 

Man and Section is one of the most level headed and brutally cynical people here.... But he has a real soft spot for the Heat.. I say blow up the team.. Wade should be the only safe player on the team, if we dangle Beas and can get big value for him, I'm all for a quick move. Next year needs to be an improved season if we want to assure that Wade resigns. That should be our TOP priority.

 

BTW - Dwyane Wade says he WILL discuss contract extension with Miami this summer.

Beasley + fillers for Bosh... Do it, Riles.

 

Hey Section126.....Not hijacking your thread, but do you see the Magic pulling one out for this series? They're without Garnett, and we're without Nelson, and both teams have substitutes that make a difference. Thanks in advance.

 

I have no problem with Michael Beasley starting at SF for us during the regular season next year, especially since I believe he's going to become an even better three point threat. He'll have trouble with the quicker small forwards in the league, but that's fine. He won't be spending 30-35 minutes per night at the position; he'll probably log 10-15 minutes there, and 20-25 at the four. Remember that Haslem is also an option to play some center for this team for 10-15 minutes per night. I think a lot depends on what this team decides to do with Jamario Moon this summer. If Moon isn't re-signed and we don't replace him, there's no way we can survive the season with a rotation of Jones / Diawara / maybe Cook at the three. Michael Beasley is going to have to learn how to play BOTH the three and four effectively; he's versatile enough and definitely has the skill set to do so. I am fairly confident that he can become a starting caliber option at either position as early as November.
I'd mention Dorell Wright but I honestly have no idea what this team plans on doing with the guy. There's a reason why he signed a MULTI year contract last summer, no?

 

I will have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. I mean, I understand where you are coming from... don't get me wrong. It often ponders my mind where this team would be if that trade was never made. Honestly, I doubt we'd of even won the conference with that squad, as good as Dwyane Wade has become. Caron as well.

I will say that there's a major difference here, as we're actually talking about sacrificing youth... for youth. It's not 32-33 year old Shaquille O'Neal back then that we're talking about as an option right now. We're talking about 25 year old Chris Bosh and 26 year old Amare Stoudemire... guys that will exit their primes around the same time or even after Dwyane Wade. That's why I wouldn't have a problem with such a decision right now, and that's the complete reason why I had a problem with the rumors surrounding Elton Brand last summer. Now that would have been a major wash.

Honestly, I'd be fine with a deal centered around Beasley / Bosh but I would have some mixed feelings about it. I really like Beasley. I feel like he will be an All Star as early as next year, but will he be a Champion?

 

Not that I think or don't think, but I question his heart and passion to be a winner. I think he can become one... but right now, it's a question to me. I felt the same way watching him at KState as much as I felt like he was the best prospect coming out of last year's draft (Yes, I wanted Beasley over Rose. I was thrilled when Miami's logo popped up #2 instead of #1).

I have no doubt in my mind that Beasley is going to be a career long numbers guy. I think he averages 18-22 points and 6-8 boards next year, and improves on that thereafter. Eventually, he's got the ability to be an even better all around scorer than Dwyane Wade. I just question whether or not he has the passion to be a champion in this league. Sometimes he strikes me as too lackluster. But he's 20 years old.

 

Also, if we decide to stand pat and do nothing but maybe add a few cheap veteran players... am I the only one who feels like this team can push for 50 wins next season? I see another MVP type of season out of Wade with a lot more help from a "freed" Beasley who I think will be an All Star performer offensively, and Jermaine O'Neal resurrecting in a contract season. We've got the shooters and athleticism on the perimeter to make a regular season push, although I do not think this will be a strong postseason core albeit the fact that our guys are battle tested now. I see no reason why this group, with an improved cast of this year's rookies, can't be a 3rd or 4th seed in the East.

Championship contender? No.

 

Chris Paul made the All NBA First Team Defense over Dwyane Wade; that is disgusting. Voters, you suck. Stop looking at STEAL AND BLOCK numbers to determine a 'defender' and watch the games. Chris Paul is average at best defensively, but of course he leads the league in steals, so.... actually, I'd call Paul below average defensively.

 

The biggest mistake was trying to develop Beasley as a power forward. He is a small forward period. His skill set shouts small forward. He should have been developed at small forward from day one and sat down until he worked on his defense at a decent level. That would have motivated him to work on his defense otherwise he would never see the court. Throughout the whole season he was a square peg in a round whole.

Having said that I wouldn't trade him for Chris Bosh. I'd rather keep Beasley to delevop because it's quite obvious to me he'll be like a Scottie Pippen. Just my opinion. But we still need a center desperately because O'Neil is getting old and is slowed by past injuries. I'm not cluey on the FAs and draft but we need someone big in the middle.

 

Beasley's game is about the complete opposite of Scottie Pippen's, but I get what you're saying in the basis of your post.

 

you dont not blowup the team. that would be incredibility stupid after the improvement we made this year. we can still trade a few players plus a draft pick and still land a good player without having to blow the whole damn thing up.

 

If the opportunity comes to land a superstar, then you do it.

Don't worry. We have no chance of being raped via trade. We have Pat Riley.

 

I think his defense had gotten to a stage where he was able to defend other power forwards which is why he was plugged in there to begin with. I would have instead made him earn his place at small forward by making him improve his defense so that he could defend the other small forwards out there. It would have reduced his court time even more but what the Heat have done has probably delayed his development at small forward into next season. Anyway, what was done was done, and debating it is futile. I'm hoping Beasley's defense improves so he sees more court time next season at small forward.

 

That is why I can understand what they did. We can only imagine how Beasley would have faired if they went the other route. I just would have thought he would have developed further ahead by now after the entire season at small forward because he had been miscasted the whole time but we'll never know.

 

Wade should call up Lebron too