Not really. I think he just had a strategy and it was to avoid the one thing Leites was good at (ground game). For Silva, the options were: Keep the fight where he wanted, win the fight and set a record OR Do exactly what Leites wants him to do and put his title in jeopardy. You can't blame Silva for Leites wanting nothing to do with that fight. I love how it's his fault bc he's the champion. You would think that anyone who gets a shot at the title would give it their all and risk everything. Leites didn't think so.
are you serious? i dont care who the champ is, what Leites did was *****. you dont fall back to the ground, if you dont want to stand up with Silva, take him down. i cant believe this ****. White should be embarrassed to even mention Silva in with that large vagina that is Leites. pathetic.
He set up the fight. Neither of the guy wanted to mess with each other. Leites was afraid of Silvas striking, and Silva was afraid of his ground game. I dont see this is pure Leiteses fault. He wanted to avoid standup. Silva didint want to go down. So they danced for five rounds.
i disagree. Its one thing to not want to do stand up, in which case you try to take the opponent down. Its a whole other thing to just fall on the ground and hope the other guy bites....................... Silva shouldn't have to hand leiteses anything IMO, and thats what leiteses wanted.
And leites didint want any of his stand up. Look. Im not defending Leites. What he did was a ***** move. But Silva, realizing that fight wont be standing up, still refused to finish the figt on the ground. LMAO at people still claiming Silva is worlds #1 Fighter at this point. Thanks lord for internet ) lol
I dont know what fight you were watching, but Silva was the only one in the fight that even engaged the other fighter. Just because Silva didnt go down to the ground when that ***** Leites laid on his back every 2 seconds doesnt mean that he didnt bring his A-game. Silva was punching, kicking, even leg-punching his way towards a victory. The only dancing that really happened was the first 3 minutes of the first round. After that it was 100% Silva taking it to Leites, who literally fell backwards onto his back to try to take the fight to the ground. If he wanted it on the ground he should have tried for a takedown. Can you really claim that Silva is not the best fighter because he didnt go chase after Leites while he sat on the ground?
i intend to watch it, and i see some sense in what you are saying. but by the same token your opinion amounts to no more than the other "internet hype," so i will draw my own conclusions once i do. in the mean time i am just reporting what i read. Andersen Silva wants to fight every couple months, so they are going to run out of "top tier" opponents. apparently they already have. as for Leites, i tend to agree that if you want the fight to go to the ground, then don't fall on your back expecting your opponent to come walk right into your guard. take him down. heck it isn't that hard to tie, up, pull guard, and get the fight to the ground.
I dont know what fight YOU were watching. I think Leites took the 2nd round tbh. And first round should have been a 10-10. I repeat, i am not making excuses for leites. His has should of fought, not pretend that he is playing soccer and dive every 5 seconds. What I am saying, with him just laying around, Silva should have tried to take it to him. Kick him, knee him or anything like that. Sivla knew that he getting a descision by 4th round and he just grinded out. He tried to do more than Leites at that point, but that is not saying anything at all. "The Best fighter in the world" should try to finish his fights, that what im saying.
I don't see how anyone thought that fight was remotely close. Silva could of won that fight on leg kicks alone. What also shows how sad Leites is, is the fact that he did take down Silva in the 2nd. Silva completely neutralized him and escaped. After that, Leites was mentally defeated. After that, he did nothing. You can't fight for 5 mins in a championship fight and expect the champion to cater to you. It's ******ed.
Anyone else think Joe Rogan should have Dana White's job? Rogan has a much better view of MMA, IMO. Dana White fits the "casual fan" description to a tee.
Nah, you just see him that way because thats how he wants you to see him. Dana is a business man, 100%. He talks from a fans perspective because the fans are who pay the bills. He's not a dumb man by any means, he listens to what the fans want and he gets it done, now I heard he's terrible to actually work for though.
I know his contracts are ******ed. But that's how it goes. He does talk from a "casual fan" perspective though. That's pretty clear.
exactly, he saw a boring fight, and holds the guy they are promoting as the best fighter in the world to a higher standard. doesn't make it fair, or right necessarily, but it is understandable. because he sees buy rates going down in the future because of this, which is bad for everyone.
I didn't see Dana's comments. But one thing I like and appreciate about the UFC (which is mainly White here) is that they'll call a bad fight a bad fight. No sugarcoating it. Shows that they care about their fans.
Yea, but disrespecting your champion and one of your biggest bread-winners ever, because the guy you put in there with him was a *****, is not right. Silva tried to make that fight entertaining and you know he genuinely cares about what the fans think. Dana disrespecting him like that was bull**** IMO. If Silva wasn't such a class act, I would think he would have some words for Dana. I think anyone else would.
Im sorry. The more I write, the more i realize i come of wrong. I have nothing against Silva, and I dont think the fight was close, and think Leites is a moron. I guess I was expecting him to dominate from begining to the end. And the moment Leites "fell" and then he "fell" again, i thought Silva would jump on top. This, summs up what i wanted to say here: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/josh_gross/04/21/rankings/index.html And I see where he is coming from. He doenst fight to end the fight as soon as possible, he fights to protect his belt. Different people, different styles. I understand that he doesnt want to jump in Leiteses guard and try to beat him at his own game, rather than just grind out a discision.
That quote sort of speaks to my impression of Silva. While the crowd and everyone at the bar was getting pissed at the lack of early action, I actually was fine with it. Every single fight, Silva never initiates the action. He just waits and waits for his opponent to come to him, press the action and/or make a mistake. And then he counters. It looked like Leites was actually going to be patient/disciplined and not play Sliva's game. So the first round or two, I actually liked it because I thought it meant Silva was actually going to be the aggressor and go after him. But you can't do that the entire fight. And that's what he did. Silva was never in trouble. He was the only one attempting to muster any sort of offense. And the flopping crap by Leites was just that. Still, I expected someone as well rounded and that high on the pound-for-pound list to maybe engage Leites ONCE down there and perhaps even finish the fight. That's two straight snoozers for Silva against clearly overmatched opponents.
i think that is the problem in a nutshell. they have already run out of legit conteders for him at that weight class. so they are hurrying along guys like Leites, who are nowhere near ready.
Really it's Bisping that's left and and that's about it. I wish he'd just go up to 205 and compete there. If he wants guys that will strike with him, he'd have enough to last the rest of his career. Then again, 205 is loaded without him. And the UFC is probably better off, at least in their mind, with a dynamic champion in every division. I think they'll at least wait to see if Bisping beats Henderson and try to make that match. But who does Silva fight before then at 185?
Actually, I thought the Cote fight was much more entertaining than what I was expecting. Cote also got hurt just when things were getting even more interesting. Can't fault anyone for that one.
It all depends on what happens with GSP and Alves, IMO. I think they'll wait to see if GSP wins and if he does, then set up the mega-fight with Silva. Personally, I think/hope that Alves beats the bejesus out of ol George.
You can scratch that. http://mmajunkie.com/news/14713/for...lva-not-thiago-silva-targeted-for-ufc-101.mma And about GSP losing...aint gonna happen
I think Silva hands Forrest his ***. Forrest has a suspect chin and is way too similar to Rich Franklin. GSP is gonna get brutalized.
Just what I was talking about earlier in the thread. If Silva and the UFC want guys to stand in front of him and bang, he needs to be at 205. Hopefully he'll stay there, win or lose. Rooting for Forrest. Thiago looked like a beast against Koscheck and Matt Hughes, though Josh took it on short notice. Still think GSP takes him out.
I thought you MMA fans would get a chuckle out of this, I sure did. "Jose Canseco used his muscles to take pitchers deep and trade blows with Danny Bonaduce. Now the former MVP will step onto the mat and try MMA. In his latest attempt to cash in on his flagging post-baseball career, Canseco is set to make his mixed martial arts debut on May 26 in Japan. The former Oakland A's slugger and tell-all author is fighting South Korean Hong Man Choi on the Dream 9 card in Yokohama Arena. Choi is a 7-foot-2, 330-pound super heavyweight and has a 1-2 record in MMA. "I have no idea if I can do it," Canseco said Thursday night. "It's a tough sport." Canseco has written two books, starred in a pair of reality shows, and had two celebrity boxing bouts since his 17-year baseball career ended. He boxed Bonaduce, a former "Partridge Family" child star, to a majority draw in a match in January. Canseco was listed at 6-4 and 260 pounds for that exhibition bout that featured only three, 1-minute rounds." The rest is in the link below. http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=4119724
Choi will kill him, if Canseco will actually do anything more than grab. Choi is actually a fighter, though obviously they picked him for his size. He's really a kickboxer, but his last two MMA fights were against Fedor and Cro Cop. Sad how guys like Canseco, with all those physical gifts and millions of dollars, find themselves broke with no marketable skills to earn a living. Pathetic. He's just lucky he's able to do this BS crap and get money.
I see that fight being much like this one [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dQpgFKVR68"]YouTube - Choi, Hong Man knocked out in 10 seconds[/ame]
i'm surprised Vince McMahon hasn't thrown a pile of money at that dude yet. he has a solid build and seems at least marginally agile for his size. here's hoping he crushes Canseco.
Instant Karma. This is the fight between Bobby Lashley and Mike Cook. Before you watch the video, allow me to lay some background. Bobby Lashley is also a professional wrestler. So Mike Cook mocked him by wearing a wrestling mask to the ring, leading to the lack of touching gloves. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHwIqD3bRPk"]YouTube - Bobby Lashley vs Mike Cook Full High Quality[/ame]
Oops! Naturally everyone is drawing parallels to Lesnar. This guys isn't as big, but he's plenty powerful. Also a collegiate wrestling champion. The fact that he trains in the altitude is great for him.
You know what's funny to me though? A whole lot of people are so focused on his gig as a professional wrestler they forget that he A) has collegiate wrestling experience and B) served time in the US Army, which automatically means that he has, at least, SOME hand-to-hand combat training.
you couldn't be more wrong about B. Serving in the army nets you about 2 silly moves that you learn in basic training......none of which would really help you all that much in a real fight.
I've heard that as well ... he was a collegiate wrestling champion as well as a champion during his time in the military ... so he's probably a bit more dangerous than your average grunt.
