Does anyone recall where Chris Long would have played for us?

Similar how? Has he gained 30 lbs in the past 4 seasons since coming into the NFL?
Good job of not answering the previous question.

If you were suspicious of all the players who gained 30 lbs from their freshman thru senior seasons it would be a list of dozens yearly.

 

Gaining 80 pounds of muscle in 5-6 years is not going to happen without juice. I was a personal trainer and am pretty astute on steroids. I've helped people cycle correctly who were insistent on using roids. I know water retention weight when I see it. LOL.

It's not just the biceps, its the total water retention look and puffiness in his face. When you look at him compared to James Jaurinaitis, you can see a difference in roids vs nonroids.

like I said... I know a large percentage of college football players juice. You only have to look at college players from 20 years ago and look at them now to see this. If they want to juice, that's their business. I personally know how much it can affect performance so it's no shock that many of these guys turn to steroids as an edge to help earn a multi million dollar pay day. To say that they don't juice b/c it's illegal would be naive. LOL. All it takes is for one of them to see one of their buddies/teammates game elevate to the next level after juicing, and they want in, too.

Cushing already has gynocomastia. That doesn't happen with someone in good shape unless they've been a hardcore steroid user. He has the tell tale signs of heavy Testosterone/Deca-durabolin use...with possibly some Dbol or Anadrol. I'm 100% positive.

 

MC.... but Merriman was busted for using. LOL. This is the point.... and he gained 30lbs and a ton of strength that elevated his play due to roids. So if he did this by juicing, then how can anyone say that a younger player who still doesn't have his "man muscles" can gain as much size/strength as Merriman w/o juicing... and while his metalbolism is still faster?

The only thing I care about is not having players who have been caught juicing b/c if they're subjected to more random tests, then they have a higher chance of being caught again in the future...or they will have less opportunity to juice which will affect their play/consistency.

Look at Michael Johnson. He's a huge juicer. He's an extomorph who has put on a ton of size on top of a small frame. It's also one of the reasons he runs hot and cold and has questionable endurance- b/c his body (heart,lungs, etc) is trying to support much more weight than it was intended. Ectomorphs don't become as muscular as mesomorphs w/o steroids. LOL.

"The extreme ectomorph physique is a fragile and delicate one. The bones are light, joints are small and muscles are slight. The limbs are relatively long in proportion and the shoulders droop. The ectomorph is a linear physique. Straight up and straight down, and may appear longer than he or she really is, due to the length of limbs coupled with lack of muscle mass developed on those limbs. The ectomorph is not naturally powerful and will have to work hard for every ounce of muscle and every bit of strength he or she can gain."

Other Ectomorph Traits:

"The extreme ectomorph may have long fingers, toes and neck are long. A pencil neck you could say. The features of the face are sharp, and the shape of the face is triangular. The lower jaw is somewhat receding. The skin tends to burn easily. Extreme ectomorphs may suffer from extremes of temperature. Due to the great body area in relation to muscle mass, the ectomorph may suffer from great heat, and due to low body fat, the ectomorph may suffer from great cold. The hair is fine and grows quickly and is sometimes difficult to keep in place."

This is why I don't draft Johnson. His game revolves around strenght/size/ability that comes from juicing. If he gets caught and has to stop, he'll be 210 pounds in a few years. Then where do we play him? Not to mention smaller tendons, ligaments, bones etc trying to support all that extra weight.

 

Jason Taylor is an ectomorph too, with some decent lean muscle development, though not as heavy as Michael Johnson. Does JT in your opinion, look like someone who juices?

 

No... no comparison between the 2 IMO. If JT ever juiced during his first 10 years, it was a very mild steroid like Primobolan that gives "non steroid looking" size gains but will still slightly increase your strength and will help in muscle recovery and repair etc.

You can see the diffence between JT and Johnson. The vascularity, water retention, puffier face. Miami Dolphins JT had a thin face with little vascularity or appearance of water retention. It took JT a long time to reach the size he's at, as it's difficult for an ectomorph to add size. Not to mention he's had time to develop his "man muscles". Johnson's surpassed JT's 15 years of college and pro weight training in just 2-3 years. Michael is an ectomorph who has gained more weight in 1 year than JT has in a career.
Redskins JT has the appearance of medium steroid/HGH use, and he's gained 15 pounds that he never had before. LOL. Notice the vascularity difference and water retension that gives him the "pumped" look even when he's not in the middle of a work out.

I doubt very seriously that JT just became serious about his training regimen in the past few years and that this is the reason for his sudden change in appearance. He's probably realized that he's getting older and needs a means to stay competitive as the game is starting to pass him by.

Factor all this in and now apply it to many of your college athletes who gain a ton of muscle in college and especially over one offseason or months before the combine.... and people can draw their own conclusions.

 

JT is a lot stronger than he looks. He was in the NFL Strongest Man competition a few years ago, and while La'Roi Glover won for most reps at 315 on the incline bench, JT put up way more reps than one would believe beforehand that he could lift.

As for Primobolan, I don't know why guys that want an extra edge, don't just stick to ones like that, Anavar, Winstrol oral, etc. Also Deca Durabolin (Nandrolone Deconoate) has no negative side effects from what I've read. No ***** ****, little if any water retention, etc. Just stays in your system for 12 months and will show up on a test for that long if you don't mask it. I remember reading Bill Phillips' book years ago, The Anabolic Reference Guide. As you probably know, he later founded EAS. Well before he was pushing the natural stuff, he was a real steroid guru. He said somewhere in that book or in one of his magazine articles, that he felt Deca was safe enough that you could take a moderate dose of 200 mgs once a week indefinitely and it would only help you and that low a dose would produce no long term negative side effects to your body.

There is no excuse for anyone to get ***** **** IMO. Dianabol is the one that is said to be the biggest culprit amongst the popular highly anabolic steroids and anyone who can get it, can also easily get Nolvadex too IMO and that takes care of possible ***** ****.
Cushing to me in that one pic in the red shirt looks more atrophied from having to stop lifting than anything else. You know how bad someone who has lifted steady and gotten big will look if they need to stop completely for any length of time. Often worse than someone who never lifted at all.

 

Primo is very much like Winstrol and Anavar... The results are very similar. They all give very little but solid weight gain with quality strength gains. Primo is the top designer steroid for this b/c it's the least toxic on the liver and it doesn't hurt like Winstrol does in the injectable form.

You're right, Deca has very mild effects... but usually people don't take Deca by itself b/c it doesn't offer much benefit alone unless you get into the 500-1000mg/weekly range. It doesnt really add water weight in regular doses (200 mg)b/c it's it not a bulking steroid. In larger dosages, it will add water weight/strength gains, but its so expensive that it's not used in this manner. The main use of Deca is to facilitate the improvement of every other steroid you take with it. So Deca is usually stacked with whatever else you are doing.

You take Testosterone for size/strength gains b/c it's the easiest to get. You could take Dbol or Anadrol but they are more toxic as well as more expensive. Then you round out the stack with a hardener that makes you look more cut and vascular like Winstrol, Primo, Anarvar, or Equipoise.

You could skip the size bulider if you don't want to be obvious about your use and just stack Deca with Primobolan/Anavar and get very little size gains along with improved strength/performance... but the gains you do see are solid muscle, not water weight.

Walk up to any pharmacy in Mexico and you can buy Test, Deca, Primo, Winstrol, and Equipoise.

My jury is still out on Cushing's ***** ****. If it was from losing a ton of weight, then that would more support the theory of rapid steroid water loss after ending a cycle.

Nolvadex can be easy to get, but the young users aren't very keen on adding anti-estrogens to their workout.... especially considering their maxing out their allowance on performance enhancers. If they have to choose between getting Winstrol or Nolvadex due to budget, Nolvadex will lose out everytime.