Wildcat stays in the bag

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  1. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/22/wildcat-stays-in-the-bag/

    The dude sounds jealous. I love that indirect shout out to us. :D

    I don't agree with that at all. He acts like it's the same old couple of running plays that we run from the Wildcat. It's constantly changing and there many plays, passing and running that we run. When he says that we spend time working on it instead of running a normal play is pretty stupid. The benefit is the opposing D has to spend time in practice preparing for it. For us, it's just one of our normal offensive plays that we practice in our normal routine, so it's not that we are wasting time practicing gimmick plays, it's one of our base packages that's part of our normal practice routine.
    I freakin' love it! Look what we've done around the league with this thing. This is another higher-up from another team admitting that they have to spend a lot of time trying to figure out how to stop it, while hopefully neglecting the main parts of their game that they have to work on. I love that it was our staff who had the ingenuity and vision and more importantly, the "Juevos" to try it. :D
    :D
    Wooo! I can't wait!;)

    Here's some more:
    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/football/story/915438.html
    :D
     
  2. ASUFinFan

    ASUFinFan Uh huh

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    What has zorn done? another year like last and he will be out of a job. id try everything i could, not let ego get in the way. the wildcat is sick and i love that wrinkle in our offense. hypes up the players and gave this offense an identity it hasnt had in years
     
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  3. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

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    I agree with Zorn in this respect, if a team doesn't have the player and coaching personnel to commit to the wildcat the same way as the 'phins have it's just another trick play.
     
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    late again Senior Member

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    Washington DOES have the personnel. Randle-El would be perfect for a facet of the direct snap because he was a successful QB in college.
    I agree with sceeto. I think he's got his panties in a bunch because Sparano had a better rookie HC campaign than he did. In addition they gave us their 2nd rd draft pick for a player that was largely ineffective last year as well as overpaid. Yeah I would say he's got his nose out of joint. No one is talking about his 8-8 season.
     
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  5. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    Randle-El might be ok for one or two plays out of the package, but having a Ronnie Brown taking the snaps is what makes the Wildcat work.

    Having a guy like Randle-El back there is just another trick play IMO. It's a running formation with the threat of pass... not the other way around.
     
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  6. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    Last I checked, Zorn wasn't exactly embraced by his players. Maybe adding something that will make the best of the players you have in Clinton Portis, Chris Cooley and Santana Moss may be a way to help them at least tolerate you as a coach. That way they know you're trying to win.
     
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    late again Senior Member

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    No offense, but you really know nothing at all about Antwaan Randle-El's college career. I guess I incorrectly assumed that people knew about him. He was an undersized running QB, too short to play QB in the NFL.
    He was the first player in Division 1 history to score 40 passing TDs and score 40 more rushing TDs.
    He finished his career at IU with over 7,000 passing yards and over 3800 rushing yards.
    Randle-El, again would be perfect for the wildcat formation because he's a true threat to pass or run.
     
  8. AbideN703

    AbideN703 Yes, I'd hit it

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    Silly Zorn.
     
  9. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

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    IMO it's a two part process you need the players AND the coaches who can run the wildcat.

    Also whilst Zorn might be right about needing both I wasn't venturing an opinion as to whether he was right about whether the 'skins had the personnel to run the wildcat.
     
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    late again Senior Member

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    I don't really follow you with this comment. It's just another offensive formation. Your comments allude to requiring highly specialized coaching in order to successfully run it.
    If you're a good coach then you can teach and motivate after that its Xs and Os.
     
  11. Jimi

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    I personally agree with him, Ronnie Brown is what makes it work. Sure Antwan is flashy and fast, but hes not Ronnie. He cant put his nose down and smash into a 300lb DT. That is the fundamental play from the formation, QB takes it up the middle. The wildcat relies on a smart runningback who has moves, makes quick decisions and is powerful on impact.
     
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    No not really.
    The games that I've watched where Brown "put his nose down and smashed into a 300# DT" were plays where he got at most a yard - is that what you believe the wildcat is predicated on? Getting a yard or two from the line of scrimmage? The OL is expected to block out the DTs.
    It obviously works with Ronnie Brown. However, it can work with Randle-El. It can work with Pat White or Tim Tebow. It can work with any player who is a threat to run or pass as long as the shift is made from the base formation.
     
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    Nail hit on the head ! Good job !:up:
     
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  14. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    I most definitely watched him at IU. I disagree that he's a serious threat to run the ball in that formation.

    What made Ronnie great at times in that package was his ability to break tackles. Im not saying Antwaan wouldn't be a nice piece to the formation, but I highly doubt he's as effective taking snaps as Brown.
     
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  15. SICK

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    absolutley.....if he was as good as breaking tackles as ronnie....he would be a halfback....

    thats ludacrous to think he could hit the hole and get out of the grips of persuing linebackers and d-lineman.....its not happening
     
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