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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Fin Fan In Cali, Dec 26, 2008.

  1. anlgp

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    The uniform rules in the NFL are very specific.

    You can wear several colors of sneakers. It's something like white, black and the team alternate color (which for us is probably orange). This alternate color has to be reported in by a certain date before the season starts and can't be the same color as another team.

    So for example if the Broncos were to pick orange as their alternate color the league would tell the dolphins and we'd probably end up with that blue color.

    Anyway, black sneakers are pretty normal so I think they're allowed.

    Also, the uniforms for both teams have to be different enough to the point where players/coaches/fans/etc can tell the teams apart.

    This is just going off the top of my head, though. I believe it's correct but the specifics I'm not too sure on.
     
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  2. anlgp

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    Comment then question.

    I know in man to man coverage you can use a DB to jam the WR off the line within five yards of the LOS other than that it's a penalty.

    I know zone coverage is to occupy a zone of the field and you are responsible for that particular zone.

    Which coverage is better for what types of plays? Do you do zones for mostly short routes and man against long or vicey versey?

    I'm guessing it's largely based upon system and player personnel but can someone explain this please?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  3. anlgp

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  4. anlgp

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    Yeah but it gives you a general idea of what it is :up:
     
  5. TiP54

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    What made you think that I played? :)))

    Through four years of HS (graduation in june) I started at least once every defensive position except for corner. And played last 4 games of the season at FB (poor starting guy broke his neck..(((( I lettered V all four years. Mainly DE/OLB. Even though im simply build (5'8, 185) I am fairly strong (maxed 305 bench, 430 squat and 250 clean in october, but im sure it went down a bit since) And clocked 40 at 4.66. (Coach did it...how accurate, no idea :))) Hopefully that answered your question.


    From what I understand (again, dont take my words as a 100% fact. What I know is from basic principles of HS ball, the way we ran things) That there are five basic coverages, and everything else dances around them;

    1) Cover Zero
    Simple. Everybody Playing Man. If your man stays in to block, you either become a zone cover, or you blitz. It depends on the call before the snap.

    2) Cover One
    Pretty much the same as Cover Zero, except for the fact that free safety (Thats why its called a "free" safety :shifty:) Plays zone, or blitzes. Again, depends on the call.

    3) Cover Two
    Consider the most complicated one, there are many, many different versions of it. The basic C2 setup safeties playing deep and splitting the field. It involves a lot of reading/decision making on the go. Biggest thing I guess is that in C2 corner have to know how to tackle, because their primary responsibility is run support/flats. Obviously if two receivers go deep on the same side corner's responsibility switches to deep, and OLB drifts over to cover the flats (again, this is a basic, basic version of C2) LBs play run first, therefore generally they might bite on play action more often than usual. MLB got middle of the field, while OLBs plays somewhat in between the middle and corner zone.

    4) Cover Three
    In C3 two corners and a the free safety play deep and split the field, while SS moves up to play Bandit (thats what we called a Safety moving up to play LB) Which pretty much creates a 4front with four down linemen, and four LBs (two outsides, two inside...) Generally used to stop the run, and to prevent a big play. Usually gets torched by accurate QBs like Chad, becuase it gives up the short pasing game (Camarillo, Bess underneath all day long)

    5) Cover Four
    Both Corners and Safeties play deep, splitting the filed in four parts (referred to as "quarters") Main job is "To leave everything in front" Basically don't get beat deep. Used on 3d, 4th and long, or before Half, or end of the game. You can throw short, and run sweeps all day with that. Problem is that if somebody playing C4 against you, it usually means you need as many yards as you can, as fast as you can.


    Sorry if I made it too detailed, i just wanted to make it clear. When I learned that as a freshman, it made my life a lot easier.
     
  6. I am Bane

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    How do they move that yellow line on the field so fast?
     
  7. TiP54

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    The yellow line on tv?
    Its not actually on the field. Its TV's graphic, and its not always 100% accurate. There is not actual yellow line on the field.
     
  8. anlgp

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    How can a quarterback tell if it's man or zone coverage from his spot under center?

    I know there are pre-snap reads and post snap reads.

    Can anyone walk me through these?
     
  9. Two Tacos

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    If the QB is out of the pocket you can bump the WRs past 5 yards. If the ball is in the air you risk a interference call though. And if the ball is tipped, there is no PI.
     
  10. Conuficus

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    Look for the corners and where they line up relative to the receivers. If the corners are lined up on the outside shoulder or outside of the receiver then chances are it is zone. If the guy is lined up inside of the receiver then normally it is man to man.

    Inside versus outside leverage. :up:
     
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  11. GISH

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    he wears black tape, not black cleats. im pretty sure.
     
  12. GISH

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    I'd like to know something. Hopefully someone will have the answer.

    During a hurry-up situation, who is in charge on defense? Is the MLB responsible for calling the plays on defense? Do they automatically know what defense to use in a hurry up situation? Does the DC have time to call in a play? Just kinda wondering how that all goes down.
     
  13. Fin-Omenal

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    Teddy was rocking some black cleats vs. the Jets...and he also wears eye black.:up:
     
  14. m ino

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    i just started really watching college football a couple of years ago(saturdays just aren't great for me to watch t.v). something i don't understand is what is the difference between a redshirt freshman and a "true" redshirt freshman? i know enough that redshirting a player gives them one extra yr of eligibility but they can't play their first year only being able to practice with the team.

    also lets say a guy goes through 3 yrs of a six yr degree and decideds he wants to major in something else(say a 4 yr degree)does he get to play seven yrs or is ther a limit to how long you can play?
     
  15. Fin-Omenal

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    Pretty sure the MLB makes the formation call if its a hurry up, Im sure vs teams that are more prone to doing that often they have factored that in for some set audibles...

    One of the reasons INDY is so effective is if your not in a Nickel or Dime defense, They can go from an I formation run a play then split Clark out in the slot and get him matched up with a LB and that can spell trouble w/ Manning at the helm. Hence why most teams stay with 3 cb's on the field for the most part vs INDY, wich totally opens up the offense for the run.
     
  16. Fin-Omenal

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    Not 100% sure of the second question but a True freshman is a player who plays out of the gates, a redshirt is a guy who is on a restricted play count and then gains an extra year of eligability.

    Before the season starts and players have been evaluated the coaches decide wich freshman can make an immediate impact and wich ones could us the extra year
     
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    Also a QB can run a guy in motion and if his man stays with him it is likely man if the other defender slides over to pick him up it is likely Zone.

    But really some defense can really confuse the QB so thereis no way to know 100% what coverage they are in. This is why it is important to have a smart QB and good protection to increase the time the QB has to make the read.
     
  18. Conuficus

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    You have 5 years of eligibility to play 4. Thats it, whether you change your major has nothing to do with it.
     
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  19. phinnhedd

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    Something that bothers me is when people proclaim a WR an excellent route-runner. How do you differentiate a WR with good route-running skills against one who doesn't?

    It's not like you can see the routes like when you hit a button on Madden. That **** perplexes me.
     
  20. SCall13

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    It's not really perplexing at all. The greatest WR of all time was considered slow, based on his position, coming out of college: Jerry Rice. But his ability to convince a defender he is going one way, then going another was second to none. That's why, to some extent, speed at the WR position can be somewhat over-rated (I don't mean to suggest that a WR can run the speed of an O-lineman and be okay). Having exceptional speed as a receiver is a bonus for a WR. The ability to find the open zones, drive a DB off of you by fooling him into thinking something different than what you are doing, and, most importantly, to be able to run the routes precisely. A WR must be able to avoid taking what should be a hard cut and rounding it off. Rounding off a route gives the DB time to recover and jump the route. IF you are precise out of the breaks, it's much easier to leave a DB trailing you. If you are an unpolished route runner, you tend to lend the DB the time to recover from a cut and stay on your back, thereby eliminating you as a potential target for the QB.
    I'll take a 4.45 WR with exceptional route running skills over a 4.3 guy who relies solely on speed to get open. Speed can be contained with proper coverage. Precision route running can not.

    I hope this adds some insight.
     
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  21. pennphinfan

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    I have a question about Hartline and his participation in our minicamp after the draft. I didn't want to start a new thread so I just found this one to post in-- as many know, the graduating students of Ohio State aren't able to attend minicamps prior to their graduation date in June due to NCAA/NFL rules. For this reason, rookies like Beanie Wells and Malcolm Jenkins will have to miss their minicamps in May for their respective teams.

    My Question is, how did Hartline participate in our camp after the draft? He didn't graduate early as far as I can tell by researching him (He's getting a degree in communications I believe). I would assume he didn't do anything illegal but just wondering how it worked out for him

    I posted this in the hartline thread last night but its not getting any response so i'll try here...
     
  22. anlgp

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    usually the MLB is indeed the person calling plays. whoever has the radio signal on their helmet is. they usually bring this up before the game and the MLB is usually the "QB of the defense" in that he's wearing that radio helmet. but it can be anyone that the team wants on defense they just have to announce it before the game.
     
  23. anlgp

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    there is an article about it somewhere but he says he will have to wait until sometime in may for the full padded practice... which i believe is coming up soon. he couldn't do the rookie ones but the ones with pads he will be a part of.
     
  24. pennphinfan

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    i could have sworn i read about him catching passes at the rookie minicamp though... maybe i should go back and read the reports
     
  25. anlgp

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    maybe i'm wrong
     
  26. pennphinfan

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    from mando's blog:

    so he was definitely there.. how much he was participating is still up in the air though bc it doesn't say anything about actual play of him. then again, i think the rule is that these guys can't even report to camp until after graduation.

    my guess is, as people do at ucla to bypass the rule, is that he technically finished his degree earlier in the year and just hasn't 'graduated' (i.e. done the ceremony) yet so he can still participate
     

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