Tua Benched!!!

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  1. M1NDCRlME

    M1NDCRlME Fear The Spear

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    Its being reported in multiple places that Ewers is getting the start this week against the Bengals. LETS GO Q!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  2. bbqpitlover

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    Not sure what we are getting, but its a breathe of fresh air.
     
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  3. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    McDaniel has just dug his own grave. Does he really think this is going to save his job? We have all seen his offense operated without Tua.

    Dig in for a long rebuild, the Dolphins will not be competitive for a long time.
     
  4. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I just saw this and was going to post it. As I said in one of the other threads, I was a supporter of Tua and I believed in him. I think his 2023 season was unbelievably lights out and felt we were RIGHT there on the edge to take the next step and I thought last season was going to be that season to do it. Sadly, it didn't and Tua has been regressing ever since.

    I watched a video this morning on every pass Tua threw in 2024. He looked sharp and his throws were on a dot...until the Houston Texans game. After that game where his hip was injured, his throws were not as sharp or crisp, often lofting...and they've only gotten worse since then. I always knew Tua was going to have a short career, but I didn't think it was going to start spiraling down as soon as it has.

    Benching Tua and starting Ewers is a smart move on McDaniel's part. McDaniel's future in Miami is in question. His benching Tua demonstrates he's willing to look elsewhere for answers, but can McDaniel put together a string of wins to show that he is still the guy. Does Ewers have what it takes to step up and show that he could be the answer?

    Three weeks to go to find out.
     
  5. KeyFin

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    I also like this move for multiple reasons.

    #1, Let Tua sit for a few weeks as some of those, "After practice and games, I don't think about football" comments come back to haunt him. Let the guy daydream about his family from the bench for three weeks.

    #2, Ewers may be the guy, he may not be. The only way we know is by playing him and since the season is now officially lost, this is the perfect time to give him a short tryout. If he's clearly not ready after his first start, then start Wilson the following week.

    #3, I don't think this is a bad move by McDaniel and I don't think it hurts his job security. The best man should start, period, and he's showing that he's more interested in Miami's future than he is in job security. I'm sure it wasn't an easy call and I respect him for it.

    #4, Ross needs a new GM and we all know GMs like to name their QBs. This opens the door for that process- how does Ewers look as a starter? Has Wilson tuned a corner (LOL, no!)? This lets Ross and potential candidates see exactly what we have and it helps to shape the draft next year.

    #5, I've speculated that maybe Tua/Miami is hiding a hip or back injury...it's just a guess on my part. Maybe he's just getting fat and lazy, I don't know. But I can't see how the rest would hurt him if he was going to return next year. Benching Tua could actually be the best thing for Tua.
     
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  6. pumpdogs

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    I don't care if Ewers throws 6 pick 6s.
    As long as I don’t have to see that stupid *** smile ever again I'm fine with it.
     
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  7. Striking

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    Good. Please run a traditional scheme and let the rook cook! Let's go! We need film on guys performing in a system that is more likely to be in place once McDaniel is gone
     
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  8. pumpdogs

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    Well thats was the case with or without Tua.Admitt it he is done!
     
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    Ideally, we get lucky and find the next Brock Purdy, then Tua's dead money won't hurt as bad. Now, McD should also give up play calling.
     
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  10. resnor

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    There is zero chance that this affects McDaniel's job security in the least, it's actually what he SHOULD DO as the head coach.
     
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  11. Sceeto

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  12. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    Agree and agree again. We're mathematically eliminated, Tua played like crap the entire duration of the win streak we did have. Everyone is burned out on him, it's time to look elsewhere.
    In no way should this be a nail in the coffin for coach. If anything it shows how invested he is in the Miami Dolphins team and that matters. He's got the stones to make this call, and once again, I applaud him for it.
     
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  13. Fireland

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    The offense is nothing more than "let achane cook" this year. Ewers can't really mess that up.
     
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  14. The_Dark_Knight

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    Well Ewers can’t panic in the pocket anymore than Tua has lately. That was something else I noticed watching film on Tua today. He used to stand tall and remain calm in the pocket. Now he scrambles at phantom rushers.
     
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  16. resnor

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    That's savage
     
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  17. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    I think it's more similar to what we saw with Aaron Rodgers in New York and Russell Wilson in Denver. Hopefully this is a sign that we're moving on from him. It'll be a 99 million dollar cap charge should we choose to do so. That's a historic number that we'll be forced to spread out over time. Denver pulled it off with Wilson, maybe we can too. We have to draft a guy and we need to bring in a playable veteran in the meantime. Don't think Zach Wilson has anything to offer, but the situation is much too volatile to have Tua backup Ewers. In the chance of injury, it would be a bad look to have Tua retake the wheel this late in the season. We have three games left, if Ewers gets chipped up, you definitely go with Wilson for remainder of season. I hate saying this, but I hope Tua has played his last down of football for us.
     
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  18. Sceeto

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    It’s definitely over. They’ll cut him and take the hit.
     
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  19. JJ_79

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    I think he’s safe and that’s why he did it, this version of Tua just made it easier for him…
     
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  20. Vertical Limit

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    there is a few of us that have told yall so about Tua, for years now.. we told yall so, we told yall so..

    It will be an interesting offseason.. im still not sure if we cut Tua because of his dead cap charge and money guaranteed.. but theyll definitely bring competition.. could Mac Jones reunite with Tua in an open competition with Ewers?

    I dont think there is a savior in the free agent or trade market.. but this is also a weak draft qb class.. so we may have to ride it through one more season
     
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  21. Striking

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    You mean, deserved. And he deserved it for most of the season
     
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  22. Sceeto

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    As I said right after the game, Tua is playing like a mid grade 3rd string QB and now he actually is one.
     
  23. KeyFin

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    Ewers can scramble and run, so it's not likely he'll just keep going backwards like Tua now does.

    One of his primary struggles in college was when plays broke down and he had to quickly find a 3rd or 4th option. On designed run pays though or short yardage situations, he was excellent with his legs. So I think that's the biggest thing for him; avoiding mental errors that lead to negative plays. That's true for any NFL rookie QB though.

    For the run/scramble part of his game, he's comparable to Tannehill (before RT was told to stay in the pocket). Not an elite runner by any means, but he can scoot and get the 1st down.
     
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  24. Sceeto

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    Tua now has broken and NFL record.......for being the highest paid 3rd string QB in NFL history. Woo! Congrats!
     
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  25. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    My biggest fear here is that Ewers looks somewhat decent these next few games and we anoint him the next savior.

    I want him to succeed obviously - But even if he plays well, let's temper our expectations.

    As for Tua - He just doesn't have the work ethic or desire to be excellent - He will never adapt his game to be the next Drew Brees. He just doesn't have that killer mentality. He robbed this franchise BLIND.
     
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  26. bbqpitlover

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    Why would you be fearful if Ewers plays well, my fear is he doesn't which means we look for a QB elsewhere either by trade, draft or free agency. I have no clue what we are getting with Ewers I just know not the same old, same old.
    As far anointed next savior, nobody can do that until they prove through consistency they as an elite QB who can make plays.
     
  27. KeyFin

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    Ewers will do rookie stuff as he adjusts to NFL speed. He will probably also have a few glimmering moments as well. More than anything, he just needs reps at live speed to see how he develops.
     
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  28. TheHighExhaulted

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    Since they are tanking and starting a rebuild you have to think that Achane will be traded. There is absolutely zero reason giving him a big contract extension. I would trade Waddle too. Since the decision on Tua has been made, these two are really the only players worth anything on this team at the moment.

    I hope you are ready for some non-competitive football for at least the next three years because that's where it's heading.

    I'm looking forward to see how the team plays the next three games without Tua because history tells us McDaniel runs a completely incompetent offense without him. Good luck to Ewers finishing out the season.

    Go Dolphins.
     
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  29. pumpdogs

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    Its fine if that happens.No really stud Qbs this draft anyway.
     
  30. The_Dark_Knight

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    Ewers is a rookie and he's going to make rookie mistakes. It's going to take a hot minute for him to be on the same page with his receivers. It's going to take a hot minute for him to adjust to the speed of the NFL. If anyone thinks Ewers is going to be an instant savior, you're going to be disappointed. If he ends up being a total bust, well good God, he was a 7th round draft pick! Selecting a quarterback in the 7th round is like living in Key West and buying thermal underwear. It makes no sense, but that's just my opinion.

    What I want to see from McDaniel, and I expect him to do this...
    Run first. A good rushing attack is a rookie quarterback's best friend. Get that rush going and then play action pass; quick slants to give Ewers relatively easy completions and get him comfortable. The running game is going to be key for Ewers to have any form of success.

    Is he going to make mistakes? You bet but what you don't want to see is the same mistake twice.
     
  31. pumpdogs

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    Do you really not see Tua is finished and this was the right decision?
    3 games in a row he slides a 1/2 yard short of the first for fear of getting hurt.
    He threw a 25 yd pass with all he had that fluttered in the air and picked off.
    And he played the entire season and where was our passing game.We are 26th in passing yds with a guy that has destroyed our salary cap.
    He had a couple decent years but sorry Herbert should have been the pick and I was never a huge Herbert fan coming out but sure wanted him over a small guy coming off major hip surgery.
    Some GMs took him off thier draft board because of his hip.They were the smart ones and we were stupid.
    **** Flores but he was right about this!
     
  32. KeyFin

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    Why ae we automatically tanking and rebuilding? We have a solid run game and a decent no-name defense.

    McDaniel's offense was incompetent because it was built around Tua, for Tua. The only reason we had the win streak is because we shifted the offense to not rely on Tua at all. Any quarterback fits in that type of offense because it's not about the QB.

    Moving forward, obviously we're not playing Tua football anymore. So assuming it's going to be a trainwreck (for three years) is premature at best. If anything, maybe we grab a veteran free agent QB next year and set him loose.
     
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  33. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Exactly. The current number one seed in the AFC faced a nearly identical situation and look where they are today - 2 years later
     
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  34. Striking

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    Bangals are a good defense to get your first start against. We should be able to run and that will allow Ewers time to throw and play action.
     
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  35. TheHighExhaulted

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    Achane's averages in games without Tua are cut in half so it matters who the quarterback is even in the run game. Look at Jonathan Taylor, he's averaging 3.5 yards per carry since Jones went down when he was on an MVP pace.

    McDaniel has shown repeatedly he can't author a gameplan without Tua as his quarterback and until he does that I'm not going to be confident that some random castoff veteran is gonna come here next year and he's gonna "let loose".
     
  36. pumpdogs

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    You are exactly right.
     
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  37. pumpdogs

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    Ewers has not taken any first.team reps yet so I am sure the game plan will be run run run.
     
  38. Fireland

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    You should look at the list of free agent QBs before you ask for that. Tanking sounds way better.
     
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  39. The_Dark_Knight

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    :link:
     
  40. pumpdogs

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    No link.Omar Kelly pod cast
     

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