***The Official 2024 Super Bowl Pick 'Em Thread Week 18***

At least neither team has Herbert as QB. Would have choked the game away despite all the other strengths.

 

He threw that at least 65 air yards. Tua has never thrown it that far. Tua's career best is 55 air yards.

 

Liar. Tua and Hurts were drafted the same year. Hurts has played 78 games in the NFL so far. Tua has played 64 in the same amount of time since they were drafted.

I advocated for us trading down and drafting hurts instead of Tua in 2020.

 

Lmao… yeah… this 55 air yards on a rope means he can’t throw a ball 65 yards. Lmaooo
https://www.miamidolphins.com/video/can-t-miss-play-tua-tagovailoa-throws-60-yard-td-to-tyreek-hill

 

Hurts has started 66 games and Tua has started 62. Sit down…

 

Yes, that's what it means. Tua has never thrown it past 55 air yards in a game. Mahomes has thrown it over 70 multiple times. Arm strength is not comparable. Quit your ridiculous arguments.

 

You wanted Eason… clown shoes… lmao

 

You're looking at games played, but how many passing attempts did he have in those extra games played? In 6 of those games he had zero passing attempts! In two others he had 1 passing attempt! And in another one just 5 passing attempts.

It's better to look at games with 10+ passing attempts (some games started the QB doesn't have that, and in some games the QB didn't start they have 10+ passing attempts). The tally for regular season there is 65 for Hurts and 62 for Tua. Not a big difference.

 

Clown shoes…

 

He’s just lying again.

 

Hurts has played in 78 NFL games in his career. Tua has played in 64 NFL games in his career.

Hurts has missed only 7 games due to injury so far in his NFL career, while Tua has missed 14. Twice as many games, despite not running the ball much and getting hit a lot less than Hurts.

Tua's durability and athleticism is not even comparable to Hurts..

Again. Quit your ridiculous arguments.

 

Weren't you repeatedly telling us arm strength is NOT how far you can throw it? It's about "throwing deep with velocity", not how far you can throw it. Now you're saying we can measure arm strength by how far one can throw it. You're being inconsistent with yourself again.

 

You are both looking at the wrong stats. We were arguing durability. What you have to look at is games missed due to injury. And there it's not even close. Tua has missed twice as many games despite getting hit way less than hurts.

 

Durability is irrelevant if you throw zero times in a game!!! No, the better stat is 10+ passing attempts in a game, and there's hardly any difference there.

 

You are getting just as ridiculous as Don. There is no better stat to measure durability than games missed due to injury. There it's not even close between Hurts and Tua.

You just choose to ignore that one because it does not fit your argument.

Tua has missed 14 games due to injury. Only 7 missed due to injury for Hurts.

And again, this is even though Hurts runs way more and gets hit a whole lot more than Tua.

 

No you're ridiculous. You think being available only to make ZERO passing attempts means something?? That's contributing absolutely NOTHING to the game. But that's what you think matters eh? Contributing NOTHING to the game is important to you! It isn't to anyone with half a brain that tracks statistics influencing the final outcome of a football game, but you can't understand something that simple.

Your credibility is in total tatters for the last few years with all the goalpost moving, all the double standards for Tua, all the inconsistencies, and now this: contributing NOTHING to the game is important as long as you're not injured. LOLOL

 

I really didn't think you were this dense. Durability is what we are arguing here. Games missed due to injury is the #1 stat you can use to measure this. It is not even close between Tua and Hurts if you look at how many games each of them have missed due to injury.

Having less than 10 passing attempts in a game is not necessarily due to injury, so that can not be directly correlated with durability.

Games missed due to injury on the other hand is in fact directly correlated with Durability.

 

You're just not honest enough to see your hypocrisy and bias.
No one is arguing durability or athleticism. The point is, you criticize Tua for things you overlook in other QB's. And you lie while you're at it. I doubt you'll understand this, however.

 

No one besides you is arguing durability. LMAO!!

 

What matters is how much a QB contributes, not "games missed due to injury". If "games missed due to injury" is the more important metric you'd be selecting every backup QB over starters because they don't really miss games. They just keep having zero passing attempts while not being injured.

In the end, the 10+ passing attempt stat is a far better metric than any "games missed due to injury" because you're more closely looking at contribution, i.e., what correlates more with winning. Now let's see if you are too dense to understand that simple fact.

 

Lol, oh so now we are not arguing durability. The whole argument started when I said Hurts ud way more durable and athletic than Tua, to which you replied with the bogus stat that Hurts has played only 4 more games than Tua, which was a lie. Then Cbrad tries to come in and save you, only to get proven wrong. And now you try arguing we were never talking about durability.

Unbelievable. WTF did you bring up number of games played for if you were not arguing durability?

Ridiculous arguments as always. Goodnight boys.

 

I wasn't proven wrong. I'm arguing we should use a more relevant metric that correlates with winning. Again, if you just go by injury stats you would select backup QBs over starters!

So in terms of availability to contribute, there's hardly any difference between Hurts and Tua.

 

Yep, you can’t understand. Or your dishonesty doesn’t allow you to understand.

Let me talk to you like you’re a 3rd grader.

You compliment other QB’s even though they have many similarities to Tua and yet bash Tua while ignoring the same compliments. Hurts has had ankle injuries and concussions and has missed games due to those. You call him “durable”. Hurts has started 4 more games than Tua and you pretend that Hurts has somehow played a lot more games. Hurts is a career 93 PR QB and has averaged about 190 yards passing per game. You’ll ignore that, however, because you want him to be better than Tua. Yet, when Herbert chokes in the postseason you’ll bring up how many TD’s he’s thrown compared to Tua. You’ll use stats to belittle Tua and ignore stats to belittle Tua. It’s farcical and childish. Burrow has missed as many games as Tua due to injury, yet you’ll use stats to say he’s better. You’ll use games played for Hurts and ignore his stats to claim he’s better than Tua.

You’re just dishonest and biased because you dislike Tua. You wanted Eason over Tua or Hurts. Yet you’ll claim that you loved Hurts over Tua. Lmaooooo…. HUGE clown shoes and such dishonesty.

 

Hurts had a run or two that Tua doesn’t make, but Tua would have been able to process the field faster and get the ball out faster so maybe he wouldn’t have needed to run. There were no throws that Hurts made that Tua doesn’t.
Hurts played well. Really efficient. Which is what you want. He had all day in the pocket, however. Something Tua doesn’t really have.
Could Tua have won last night’s game? Most likely. The Eagles have a fantastic OL and DL. They sacked Mahomes 6 times and didn’t blitz once. The Eagles defense held Mahomes to a 10 PR in the first half. Just remarkable.

 

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