A look at Dolphins playoff hopes

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  1. cbrad

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    Grier (almost certainly) isn't getting fired even if we lose against the Jets. His nickname should be "teflon". So what are you going to do? Root for us to lose every year Grier is the GM? That's potentially a lot of years of rooting for the team to lose while saying you're a "fan" of the team. At some point that label just doesn't apply.
     
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  2. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    I find making the playoffs and getting blown out by Buffalo equally meaningless. Sorry you don't have higher aspirations, nor can see the differences between these top teams and us.

    We are a terrible franchise with a GM who isn't held accountable and has no playoff wins in 25 years. If you want actual change to the front office and a shot at real success root for the thing that might actually move the needle.
     
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  3. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    No. I wanted Tua to play on his option.
     
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  4. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Again, we disagree, if you want to believe recent reports from Albert Breer there's rumblings about GM change. Making the playoffs doesn't help that change from occurring.

    If you can guarantee Grier is fired in the offseason I'd root as hard as anyone for them to win. Until then, I'll root for the outcome that helps this franchise become genuinely successful.
     
  5. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

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    Buffalo just barely beat NE, the worst team in the league. Division rival third time this season can go either way.
     
  6. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Buffalo needed a BS penalty and a miracle 61 yard field goal to beat Miami this year in Buffalo.
     
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  7. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    This isn't horseshoes. Close doesn't count. They just beat the Jets like a rented mule and also beat BOTH teams many have as #1 in the league in the Lions and Chiefs.

    You want to play the Bills in the playoff atmosphere in the playoffs, in Buffalo, AND not even be sure who will be your starting QB? You need to come back to reality.
     
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  8. cbrad

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    Ignore for a moment what will actually happen, since we don't know that yet. Just hypothetically, let's say for the next 10 years the team keeps Grier and because of that you actively root for the team to lose every game every year. I'm sure you can see how it's untenable to claim you're really a fan of a team when all you do (in this hypothetical scenario) is root for the team to lose.

    Just pointing out that such behavior isn't really consistent with the meaning of "fan". One or two years I can see for tanking, but not every year for many many years.
     
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  9. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    No, you wanted to trade Tua and sign Kirk Cousins. A simple forum search confirms that.
     
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  10. cbrad

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    He also wanted Rodgers. Thankfully we didn't go that route.
     
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  11. StaleTacos

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    I can't play that hypothetical. I didn't even root for the team to lose during the whole season, and you want to say hypothetically I root against the team for 10 years? No. That doesn't apply.

    You aren't look at this properly and with all factors considered. This is far more specific.
     
  12. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

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    Yes.
     
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  13. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Then search and confirm it. I'm sure you missing all context as usual.
     
  14. Fireland

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    And Watson
     
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  15. cbrad

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    Point still remains. I can see rooting for tanking one year or two. But at some point rooting against the team means you're not a fan. Just pointing this out because if Grier doesn't get fired you'll be doing exactly that based on what you've written.
     
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  16. StaleTacos

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    You'd be out of that deal by now and in a better position than the Tua anchor.
     
  17. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Your point doesn't remain though. I didn't say I'm rooting against the team forever. I'm making a specific choice as those did in "Tank for Tua."
     
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  18. TheHighExhaulted

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    Ok.

     
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  19. TheHighExhaulted

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    Forgot about that one. His quarterback takes have been atrocious the last few years.
     
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  20. StaleTacos

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    Yep, and I never stated there what you said, "You wanted to give Kirk Cousins $50+ million."

    I would never give him the deal he got.
     
  21. cbrad

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    You said the reason you're rooting for the team to lose is to increase the chances of getting Grier fired because you don't think Grier could ever deliver us a SB. It's actually quite realistic for Grier to remain as GM. So yes, either you change your position on why you're rooting for the team to lose or you'll be compelled to root for the team to lose as long as Grier is GM. My point is right on.
     
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  22. TheHighExhaulted

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    You know the going rate for quarterbacks. Again, you're not dumb stop being stubborn in your horrible takes.
     
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  23. Tuanon4Life

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    We should have took Burrow instead of Tua.
     
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  24. StaleTacos

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    No. It's not, because as mentioned, I rooted for the team to win earlier in the year. The viewpoint isn't as narrow as you want it to be. Such a weird dude.
     
  25. cbrad

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    You're not understanding basic logic. Based on what your wrote there's no way out. If Grier remains as GM you'll be compelled to keep rooting against the team OR you'll have to change your position. That's just logic.
     
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  26. StaleTacos

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    Don't be mad you make stuff up, and you couldn't back it up. I wouldn't have given Cousins that deal. Would have looked at other options if you could somehow trade Tua for that haul.
     
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  27. StaleTacos

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    You are creating your own reality and own logic. I'm sorry I'm not playing by your rules.
     
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  28. cbrad

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    lol.. caught in a logical argument and can't admit it could lead to a situation you don't like. No problem. It's not the first time.
     
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  29. StaleTacos

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    You failed logic a long time ago. Worst poster on this website who can't even admit the Tua contract was a disaster and you were wrong.
     
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  30. cbrad

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    lol.. the guy who said pro Tua posters' positions were more extreme than ISIS saying I'm the worst poster on the site. Look in the mirror.
     
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  31. dolphin25

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    yeah, and they could win. Most teams could win or lose. If the Dolphins lose this we have way more issues then we think
     
  32. TheHighExhaulted

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    Admit your brilliant takes of signing Watson, Cousins or Rodgers would have set the franchise back even further.
     
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  33. StaleTacos

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    LOL. Perfect. Still won't admit he was wrong about the Tua deal.

    According to your post, I guess you are pro-Grier. "If he fails to get a deal done with Tua I'm joining the call for "Grier has to go". -cbrad
     
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  34. dolphin25

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    Do you honestly believe that if the Dolphins get in the playoffs they can win the Super Bowl?
     
  35. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Admit I would have passed on Cousins at that money and we can talk like adults.
     
  36. cbrad

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    There's no evidence I'm wrong about Tua. Getting rid of Tua could set us back 10-20 years in the search for a franchise QB. You act like you've somehow been proven right about something that's still in play. Typical.
     
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  37. cbrad

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    At least admit you were completely wrong about Rodgers. HUGE miss.
     
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  38. StaleTacos

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    If you can't see the evidence by now, you never will.
     
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  39. StaleTacos

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    You'd have to give me the background. Kind of moot though. I would have drafted Herbert over Tua. We would have never been in this mess.
     
  40. cbrad

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    That could be because the evidence doesn't exist which would mean you're wrong. And of course if Tua does fail later, then I will see the evidence, so either way you're wrong.
     
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