It wasn't a jump ball. Hill had the completion in his hands. Their was no challenge at the apex of the ball.
You should probably go watch it again. Hill clearly slows down to try and make an attempt to catch that ball. It was underthrown. Yes, Hill has it ripped from his hands, but if that ball is not underthrown and Hill can catch it in stride or with the separation he had, completely different outcome.
Great. It wasn't a jump ball. That requires a lob that both players are at the apex of the ball and at a 50/50 chance of retrieving it.
Watching the play again, Hill had pretty much zero separation. It was a beautifully thrown ball that an alpha receiver catches.
That ball was so far behind Tyreek. All of Tyreeks momentum is going away from the ball, Tua needed that ball more out in front of him. There is almost no way a receiver is going to be able to bring that ball back to their body without the defender hitting it. Just one of many inaccurate balls from Tua today.
OK, if that's what you see... sure. but then if he's got no separation, there's no sense throwing the pass. So... it's a poor decision and an underthrown ball. Tua has had a great run the last few games, he's been great, but today... he was flat out awful when it mattered most.
Tua underthrew it, he regularly underthrows Hill, and Hill usually adjusts and makes the play, but they were up against a very good scrappy corner today. If the ball is not underthrown corner does not even have an opportunity to make a play.
Ball was underthrown, Tua regularly underthrows Hill, and while usually adjusts and makes the play anyway, it is Tua who should not have given the CB a shot to make a play on the ball. Hill had the step on the CB and had to slow down and wait for the ball.
You are wrong, Hill had a step, if the ball was thrown out in front of him CB has no chance to make a play on it.
We had momentum up until Tua threw the 2nd int. We had a chance in this one. Normally we'd get blown out in a game like this. We had a chance, that's all you can ask for. In fact we had three chances at this in the 4th. Tua threw some bad picks today. Texans defense is next level, but that's no excuse. I thought our defense got it done today. Once again we needed to be able to run the ball and couldn't. Tua throwing INTS in the biggest moments of the game certainly did not help. This narrative will continue with him until he gets it done. Playoffs are most likely out the window unless the Chargers lose out and we win out. IDK, we have to find a way to get it done against the upper echelon teams of the league. Blame it on injuries to the OLine, etc. This one primarily falls on Tua. Hill probably should have made that catch in the 4th. I thought he had it myself. Oh well. Time to start researching draft prospects. I doubt we see the postseason.
no surprise that when it came to a big game like this that Tua proved he is not good enough. Need a HC, GM and QB before next season.
He did by a little, still think Hill should have had that one for what he’s getting paid and it was unlucky and a great play by the Texans DB.
Hill's playboy lifestyle might be draining all his testosterone. How else can we explain that ball being ripped out of his hands like a baby?
Tua played badly. He was off most of the game and missed some throws he typically makes. His first INT was miscommunication. Even Trent Green talked about it. The defense was showing in a way that the WR should have undercut the DB in the middle of the field. Instead, the WR went behind the DB. This timing based offense makes communication really important. The second INT was just a bad throw in Tua’s part. The 3rd INT was in Tyreek’s hands and the DB took it from him. That’s on Tyreek, IMO.
He supposedly has a torn ligament in his wrist from when the police manhandled him at the beginning of the year. Tyreek said he was advised to have surgery, but opted to wait until the offseason.
Hill is great and I love him, but you’re right. He disappears a lot and rarely makes the catch when there’s a contested ball.
Agree on the third INT but that throw wasn't needed at that moment.. Start the drive off with something in the middle of the field. You had plenty of time to drive down and score, even without any remaining timeouts.
The DB was glued to Hill and Tyreek didn’t have even a step on him. If Tua leads Tyreek the safety coming over may have had a chance to INT. Let’s not pretend that in 95% of all passes like that in the NFL we don’t see the WR adjusting for the ball. Bottom line, Tyreek literally had both hands wrapped around the ball with no DB’s hands on it. Then the DB just took it away. When the ball hits a receivers right in the hands it’s not a bad pass.
There was no separation on that last Tua throw. And as I wrote earlier, if Tua throws it too far ahead of Tyreek the safety coming over either kills Tyreek or has a good shot at an INT. Tua placed the ball right in Tyreek’s hands. I circled the ball here since it’s grainy.
I understand your point. Just like Tua’s refusal to stop diving head first he is always taking risks. However, I’m OK with that throw there and most #1 WR’s come down with that ball.
What are you not factoring in that the ball was behind him, and to bring that ball back to his body, it allowed the defender the ability to get a hand on it? It's not all on Tyreek, it was not a good ball from Tua.
The overwhelming majority of passes like that are behind the WR so they come back for the ball. Tyreek did that, had the ball in both hands, and let the defender take it from him.
Meh. The ball is in Hill's hands. The ball being taken away is on Hill. Every pass is not going to be perfect, you need your WRs to make plays. And making that play should have been an easy one Another winnable game that the Dolphins let slip away. This time it was mostly on the offense. They did what I expected, lots of behind the LOS passes. But didn't really challenge their defense down the field. It almost worked but for all the turnovers.
Something people haven’t really mentioned is how dependent this team is not only on Tua playing but having an elite game every time he's out there. That’s just not a winning formula. Guys like Mahomes, Allen, Goff, etc. Can have a below average to average game and they still win most of the time. Yesterday, Mahomes completed 50% of his passes and left the game due to injury. What happened? KC’s defense got 6 turnovers that lead to 14 points. KC won by 14 points. Tua has never had that luxury. Either he plays elite or they lose. And even when he plays elite (125 and 114 passer ratings) they lose at times. And when a team wins, no matter how well they play, they tend to get credit. Same goes if they win and have an average game. I don’t like to be lazy and think in those terms. Tua didn’t have a good game yesterday. The defense definitely did enough to win. No one else on the offense, however, stepped up. Not Tyreek, not Achane, definitely not the offensive line. And I think the latter is the biggest reason this offense can’t seem to get going when Tua is playing below or at average. Needing your QB to play all 17 games at an elite level is not a good formula to win games nor is it reasonable to expect your QB to be perfect every game.
Objectivity and facts aren’t ego. We’ve seen players countless times take blame for things we know weren’t their fault. That’s how a leader behaves. Tua showed up with a 124 against the Bills and a 114 against the Packers. Both huge games. Sooo
The O line is trash. Why the F dont they roll Tua out to get away from the ****? This pisses me off. They know the line is gonna get blown up so why leave Tua in the pocket to get crushed or hurried? Design a whole lot of different roll outs so the D has to react to it rather than being able to get pressure right up the middle.
Can't really say I'm upset we lost.Knew it was coming. Even if we won and snuck into playoffs they weren't going to even compete with whoever they played.
Normally I would agree with you...with the guards being the weakest part of the line, but with a 3rd stringer playing RT and Paul playing LT, there really wouldn't have been any place for Tua to roll out to! At least Paul seemed to play a good game and demonstrated he is the team's future LT.
