Tua will return to practice next week

Yeah.. the game where Tua played better than Levi and yet the Dolphins lost. Tua’s PR that game was about league average. Slightly above. Levi’s was below. So how was it possible that the Titans won if the QB wins and loses games all by himself? It also goes to show that the Dolphins needed Tua to play elite week in and week out (which no QB does) or else lose.

Kind of blows your stupidity out of the water regarding “wins are QB stats”.

 

Lies.

The SCIENCE says that. The armchair neurologists disagree with the actual docs. You’re an armchair neurologist.

 

Levi has been garbage as a QB so far in the NFL

Not even worth starting.

Hilarious you are comparing him to Levi as your defence...

So weak.

And it does not change the fact that the offence failed to produce against a bad Titans team

Tua had 2 fumbles and no rushing or passing touchdowns
The defence scored a touchdown for us.

Those are facts you cannot explain away.

 

One noted Doctor from the University of Pittsburgh has said that there is no connection to further concussions or lasting damage... The REST of the specialists from that University all say different.

Please study up on the University of Pittsburgh brain trauma research center...

I will link in information.... A damned fine read.

https://www.aans.org/patients/conditions-treatments/concussion/

I will highlight the reference from the University of Pittsburg and McGill university where it says that you are more likely to get concussed after multiple concussions. (As much as 4-6 times more likely to get concussed.)

University of Pittsburgh’s Brain Trauma Research Center reports more than 300,000 sports-related concussions occur annually in the U.S. Additionally, the likelihood of suffering a concussion while playing a contact sport is estimated to be as high as 19% per year of play; in other words, almost all athletes of contact sports suffer from a concussion within five years of participation. It has been reported that more than 62,000 concussions are sustained each year in high school contact sports. Among college football players, 34% have had one concussion and 20% have endured multiple concussions. Estimates show that 4-20% of college and high school football players sustain a brain injury over the course of one season. The risk of concussion in football is three to six times higher in players who have had a previous concussion.

A study conducted by McGill University in Montreal found that 60% of college soccer players reported symptoms of a concussion at least once during the season. The study also reveals that concussion rates in soccer players were comparable to those in football. According to this study, athletes who suffered a concussion were four to six times more likely to suffer a second concussion. Research such as this has led to greater interest in developing protective headgear for soccer participants, but it is not clear that such headgear actually reduces the risk of concussion.

This is not something I just "Pulled out of my ***." to be difficult and oppose the Tua Homers...

These schools have spent years studying this. Years specialising in this.

But go ahead and argue with me and other posters here...

 

Great post. Tuanon homers just want to stick their heads in the sand and deny reality.

You can also see this in boxers and MMA fighters. It gets progresivley easier to knock out a fighter who has been knocked before. The more times they've been knocked out, the easier it is to knock them out again.

 

Science and math are right whether you believe in them or not.

This is just boatloads of professionals and specialists spending years of their lives collecting data and doing tests.

What we want, our emotions and opinions mean nothing.

 

Tua isn't going anywhere. It's his life and his decision to make but it's sounding like he's not even thinking about quiting. We do need to sign a real backup or take a QB with our first rounder. If a top prospect is available take him and let him sit behind Tua. It's only a matter of time before he goes down again.

 

Not true.

The current science says that it isn’t concussions, but rather the 1000’s of “micro” hits to the head that causes CTE. And 3/4 of these hits are obtained in practice.

What you’ve posted here doesn’t mean what you think it means. You don’t understand what you posted. Lol It actually just furthers what I’ve been posting this entire time.
Nearly all football players suffer from concussions, that doesn’t make all players “injury prone”, and Tua was treated differently by the NFL.

 

I mean you are right.... It seems that Tua is going to go back out there for more punishment.... There is nothing we can do but watch it happen.

 

Tua actually played about league average in that game. Far from crap. We’re just so used to seeing him put up elite numbers that when he doesn’t it skews our perception of him. No QB puts up elite numbers in every game.

 

They ignore actual science and either cherry pick things or post things they don’t understand.

 

Man

we can do this all day... The fact of the matter is that the QB is the most important player on the team.. The QB is the player most responsible for success of the team. So one missed kick or one missed tackle is not what we should be focusing on when we lose.

In a perfect world every tackle is made and every kick is good... But the Qb touches the ball more than anyone other than the center. Every snap... every play... of offence runs through the QB.... Unless the kicker goes 0-3 and misses gimme shots... the scrutiny of a loss need not be on the kicker... Ditto for the defence. By your logic in the Titans game the offence under performed all game long... but because the defence could not stop them at the end it is the fault of the defence. (Despite the fact that the defence created a turnover where they scored a touchdown for the Dolphins in that game.)

Sorry I cannot adhere to such logic.

And when QB's want 55+ million dollar per season contracts... making 2-3 times what the next highest paid player on the team makes.... They should absolutely bear the full brunt of the criticism when we lose.

 

I’m no medical expert nor neurologist but an article I read on the topic of concussions and CTE by the Mayo Clinic, which I posted the link to in a previous thread makes perfect sense to me.

To summarize, concussions by themselves do not cause CTE. Their conclusion basically stated that repeated concussions prior to the healing of the previous concussion can lead to CTE, but they also admit there is still so many unknowns due to the complexity of the human brain.

Using the Mayo Clinic’s conclusion as a benchmark, the question becomes, how one does it take the brain to heal from a concussion? I would suggest it all depends on the individual and how severely the brain is bruised. Some individuals heal quicker than others. Some individuals are more susceptible to certain injuries. Both statements can be true without being exclusive to one another.

Based on the history I’ve seen of Tua Tagovailoa, it appears he is susceptible to concussion but it also appears he heels rather quickly from them. Again, not a medical professional, only surmising based on what we all have seen.

Bottom line, Tua’s overall health is no more at risk today than it was yesterday. Will he suffer another concussion during his career? I have no doubt he will. Joe Montana suffered MANY concussions during his illustrious career and the last I’ve seen and heard, “Cool Joe” is living life just fine. Provided Tua doesn’t suffer anything catastrophic, I have no doubt he will as well.

 

I wasn't aiming it at you. He had made a similar post elsewhere, so I was just letting him know, and then Dan made the post. Lol

 

Second impact syndrome, which is when a concussion is suffered before a previous concussion heals, has been linked to CTE. Second impact syndrome is extremely rare and affects between 15-20 people each year. This syndrome is different than a concussion. As such, it means concussions don’t cause CTE.



Science says that CTE is caused by the 1000’s of “micro” traumas that happen from pop warner all the way up into the pros. And 3/4 of these head traumas happen in practice.

Concussions have not been linked to CTE.

 

If Chubb takes three big steps before taking off his helmet the Dolphins win as Ten loses a TD.

The game was 27 to 13 with 4 minutes to go. D gave up a 70 yard TD drive in 1:20, with a 2 point conversion and no TO's taken. O goes three and out using up all 3 of Ten's time outs and running the clock to 2:15. Then the D gives up a 65 yard TD drive and the O turns over on downs at midfield. Didn't convert 3rd and 3, and 4th and 4. Also, bad snaps get put on the QB not the center for some reason. That scenario is on the D. Not seeing a good argument against.

**edit** failing in the 4th was a theme on D last year.

 

Allen has suffered many head injuries. He most likely suffered one two weeks ago and possibly one the week before that. Burrow claims he’s been in many games that he doesn’t remember.

 

Guys should take the time to watch this. It really shows how important Tua is to our offense. I don't know if there's anyone we could bring in to back this man up. The plays are designed to use Tua's super power of great anticipation. Haters triggered in 3.. 2.. 1..

 

Doug does good film breakdown

 

When you hear bits and pieces from his presser, it doesn’t sound like that he has learned anything and I don’t think it’s wise of him to not wear the guardian cap.

 

For Tua's sake as a human being I hope you're right.

 

TDK: * Posts science and medicine *

Morons: “I hope YOU’RE right.”

 

Interested to see how much Tua can improve the worst offense in the league.

 

Hey friends! Just stopping by to see the latest on Tua, and it took me about 30 seconds to remember why I took a long break. You guys really can do better with the personal attacks and anger, it's just not a good look.

I hope everyone is doing well. Personally, i sold my house in the Carolinas and moved to the Philippines six months ago to get married. We're working the visa process and I should be home by next season. Life is good here though, it's simple and it's pretty cool living on $500-1000 a month. Driving here is like playing Super Mario Cart, there's zero traffic enforcement, so that keeps me on my toes as well. =)

Again, I hope you're all doing good outside of NFL football, LOL. The Fins aren't out of the playoffs quite yet, but I would guess Tua will need a few weeks to adjust and our best case scenario would be chasing a wild card in week 18. At least we have Motor City Dan to root for since the Lions are absolute beasts this season!

 

Key!!! I was wondering what had happened to you! Congratulations on your marriage!

I do hear living in the Philippines is dirt cheap and you can live like a KING on a retirement pension. My great uncle retired to the Philippines after he retired from the Army back in the day.

Don't be a stranger. We could use another voice of reason!

 

I'm 51 (she's 31) and our plan is to come back to the US, work for 8-10 years and then retire back over here. She has a 12 year old son so what he pursues in life will play into that as well. He could do great here with a US education or stay there as a US citizen.

It is a 3rd world country, so roads and infrastructure are an adjustment once you get outside larger cities. But at the same time, it's like the Bahamas or Mexico 50 years ago....just beautiful beaches/landscapes and S Florida weather. I pay $80/month on a one bedroom apartment, a McDonalds quarter pounder combo is $4, a can coke (or a beer) is about .75 cents, and a pack of cigarettes is $2 to 3. Electronics are expensive here while any type of skilled labor is dirt cheap. An acre of beachfront land is about $20-30k (or less if you want to go rural). We could live comfortably on $400 a month if we cooked almost every meal.

I've missed you guys too, but the bickering just got to be too much. What do you do when all your friends hate each other, LOL?!?

 

I could not agree more with that first paragraph. It's funny all it took was ignoring one poster in particular to make most of that disappear.

Enjoy the simple life, sounds like heaven to me. Is the fishing good?

 

Yes, being able to spew your crap unchallenged is what trolls love. Weak minded people ignore rather than debate when they can’t defend their ignorance.
You’re so brave.

 

Great fishing and seafood is dirt cheap. A kilo of lobster or crab (2.2 pounds) is around $5 fresh.

 

Everything you said sounds closer and closer to heaven on earth to me.

 

Grier:

 

He’s right in that it was criminal to not try and get a better back-up… especially considering that some were available.

Saying that, it’s just stupid and lazy to keep harping on Tua being “one injury away…” Every single player is “one play away” from being injured. Allen suffered 2 head injuries this year, one of which he was knocked unconscious. Florio spouts this crap and hasn’t said one thing about Allen returning to a game 6 minutes after being unconscious. He’s a failed lawyer and a hack.

 

Not just that but it’s also criminal on Grier not to seriously bolster the offensive line.

Let’s just say for the sake of conversation that Tua is that fragile. Why wouldn’t you, as the general manager, not do everything you could humanly do do bolster up your offensive line? If you know your quarterback, whom you just signed to a 5 year extension is that prone to injury, shouldn’t you get the best possible offensive line to protect your investment?

That would be like being a mayor in the most dangerous city in the country not getting funding for your police officers to have bullet proof vests. Utterly stupid!!!!

 

https://www.youtube.com/live/E8oxJSYdei0?si=EMYvr5g1mnUw7MrS

Tua's press conference for anyone who hasn't seen it. We obviously need a better backup plan but after hearing what Tua had to say about everything I feel better about his future as well as the risk he's taking in continuing without any hesitation. The man is a warrior and I pray for him.

 

Key, good to hear from you and glad to hear you’re happy and doing well. Congratulations on your wedding!!