Chris Grier missed the boat

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  1. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Word bleeping up!
     
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  2. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    I read this reply of yours and thought maybe my 11 year old got ahold of my phone and made a post.
     
  3. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    See danny die on his little hill of feces.
     
  4. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    This reply of your makes it look like my 7 yr old now has my phone.
     
  5. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    But balance VanGinkel with Phillips, Chubb, Wilkins, Sieller…between all of those, the Dolphins D wreaked havoc.
     
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  6. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Chop is very close. His pressure numbers are very solid for a rookie. I think Weaver will start moving around more with different pass rush looks.
     
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  7. GeoPhin

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    :up:
     
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  9. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    Agree with most of what you’ve wrote. With Chop it’s a little to early to say that he‘s a bust and Ogbah is not his only saving grace signing, the Campbell signing was great as well (although we probably only going to see him for this season).
     
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  10. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    LMAO at calling Chop a bust. There really are some stupid trolls out there.
     
  11. djphinfan

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    Enough data has come in at the point, and I’ve kept track on so much of it since Tannebbaum left.

    I hope he gets fired.

    only chance at survival is the team goes in a run in the playoffs
     
  12. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    I’ve posted that I think his time is up here and he needs to go. But we don’t need to make stuff up in order to justify him needing to go. Overall, he’s been about average. We could definitely do worse, but I’d like to see if we can do better. He’s had plenty of time to get over the average hump and hasn’t done it.
     
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  13. The_Dark_Knight

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    I've both praised and severely criticized Grier during his tenure as GM.

    When it has come to skill positions, Grier has done in drafting and signing free agents. I doubt anyone would call the drafts/signings of Waddle, Mostert, Achane, Wright, Howard, Ramsey, Chubb, Hill, et al bad moves.

    When it comes to the offensive line however? When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however unlikely must be the truth and the truth is our offensive line has ranked near the bottom of the league during Grier's tenure and what's the one undisputable fact associated with that? The Dolphins have not won a playoff game during his tenure. Grier has played moneyball with the roster and the OL has suffered as a result.

    We've had different head coaches
    We've had different offensive coordinators
    We've had different quarterbacks
    We've had different wide receivers
    We've had different running backs
    We've had the SAME General Manager

    You guys ever see the film, "The Boys in the Boat?" The rowing coach has his rowers. He KNOWS he has the right men. He's put them in different positions in the boat and no matter what combination he tries, they aren't getting the speed he knows they're capable of. He then realizes after looking at the crew from every angle the one constant that hasn't been addressed was the coxswain. He gets a different coxswain and what happens? The crew is blasting through the water like a hot knife through butter.

    Same thing here. Regardless of whether or not Grier has done a good job. Put that aside for a second. You've made all of these changes to the team and still getting the same results. Time to change the one thing that hasn't...Grier.
     
  14. danmarino

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    I do wish we had a better oline. It seems most teams wish the same. And considering that no Shanahan offense has ever valued OG's and we can see that he may not be the only factor here as to why our interior OL is seemingly not good. Saying that, before injuries last season the OL was fine. This year they are also about average.

    Grier has had misses, like all GM's, and he's done well, like most GM's. I'm just ready for a shake-up there.
     
  15. hitman8

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    Yes, I agree. Forgot about the Campbell signing I praised him previously for that.

    On Chop, I'm not seeing a whol lot. He's got one trick which is the speed rush to generate pressure but he doesnt have a whole lot other than that. He's not very physical and doesnt finish or get sacks very often, which is the same problem he had in college.

    Great speed rush but very little actual production. He is continuing the same pattern in the pros.
     
  16. Sceeto

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    So all of your endless BS and utter nonsense, it's just about you thinking he is average and needs to go as opposed to others thinking he sucks and needs to go. Your reasons are the only valid ones while others are just making stuff up. "LMFAO". ....and everyone else is trolling.
    At least we agree he needs to go. "LMFAO".
     
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  17. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Try and keep up. The hyperbole from the dullards is old. Their mantra is “Super Bowl or he sucks”. They don’t look at any objective facts nor do they give insightful or thoughtful reasons. Just “SuPer bOwL”… It’s akin to watching chimps throw sh!t against the wall and seeing what sticks.

    He’s an average GM by all metrics. My opinion is it’s time for him to go because he’s not shown he can be better than average. As I’ve written before, the Dolphins could do worse, and firing him doesn’t come without risk. However, the morons who give no reasonable explanations as to why he should be fired, and instead make up stuff or show their utter ignorance as to why they think he should be fired, is again, tiring. “My reasons” are nothing more than objective facts.
     
  18. Sceeto

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    You're basically just repeating your same nonsense and making s--t up. Yeah, a lot of people are saying "Super Bowl or he sucks". No, people have given plenty of "objective facts", "insight" and "thoughtful reasons", but you know you're just b----ing for the sake of b----ing. It's all just about "average" for you. Ok, but we agree we need better, correct? Cool. Good stuff. He needs to go. We agree.
     
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  19. hitman8

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    Dan making **** up as usual. Nobody is saying super bowl or he sucks. That's your hyperbole. Although the super bowl of course should be our ultimate goal, we would be happy with at least 1 freaking playoff win in the last 23 years to show we are making progress and are actual contenders and not pretenders.

    At this point, we tanked for nothing and completely wasted millions upon millions and a **** load of draft capital from the failed tank job and tunsil trade.

    We are no better now than we were before the tank. No not average or "we could do worse", what's worse than 23 years without a single playoff win and no promise of one in the near future? We hold the longest playoff win drought in the NFL. It's a complete failure given the time and resources we committed to the rebuild.

    You are just coming around now because the truth of his incompetence is now undeniable.
     
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  20. Sceeto

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    Yes, certainly since the Tunsil trade, Grier has rewritten the book on how to be an incompetent NFL GM.
     
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  21. dolphin25

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    Like I say, the board is better with him blocked :)
     
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  22. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Grier “missed the boat on Wilkins”, but if he had signed him and he was down for the season after the 5th game like he is now in Las Vegas we’d be hearing about how Grier signs “injury prone” players.
    You morons are too funny.
     
  23. TheHighExhaulted

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    Or, hear how Grier is cursed or something.
     
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  24. djphinfan

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    That’s a you problem buddy if you think that
     
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  25. GeoPhin

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    I came across this Dolphins YouTube channel. He has good guests and content. This had the dude Bobby Shouse Jr., who breaks news a lot. From the dive bar podcast. I thought I would share it. The channel is called Fins Faithful Pod, follow him. Also, good draft one on there as well.

    https://www.youtube.com/live/hvjZOE3-Jew?si=iJEMyUARPE1ButTU
     
  26. hitman8

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    Grasping at straws because Wilkins suffered his first major injury. Now you are going to harp on that as if that proves anything. Fact is most players who are durable in college continue to be durable in the pros, while those who are often injured in college continue be often injured in the pros.

    Yes there are exceptions to that rule, and players who were durable when younger may evantually become injury prone with age, but following that philosophy would help us avoid a lot of the injury prone players and constant injury issues we have every year and which you homers then use as an excuse for us losing every year.

    No, it's not just bad luck it also has a lot to do with having an ignorant and incompetent GM.
     
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  27. Born_in_'72

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    My days here involve way less stupid bs with him on ignore.
     
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  28. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Weak minds think alike.
     
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  29. dolphin25

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    sounds like a you problem if you disagree. I don't have any issue with the board now. Others don't seem to appreciate him, if they wish to put up with his posts that is their choice. As for me, I'll enjoy the board without his posts.
     
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  30. pumpdogs

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    Look at the bright side.At least we don't have the longest playoff win drought in sports.
    That belongs to the Reds.
    What has this once great franchise become?
    As for people who keep defending this team and act as if we are all stupid I guess u must not love success.
     
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  31. Please Sell This Team

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    We have seen that the Chiefs traded Hill and went on to win back to back Superbowls.

    In the last 3-4 years they have drafted a stud Center...Good linebackers, and cornerbacks. Then they went and signed another offensive lineman.

    So even though Toney turned out to be worthless.... They still won the Superbowl.

    Build the O line
    Build the D Line
    Dominate in the middle of the field on defense...
    Build a decent secondary

    The Rest will usually take care of itself.
     
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  32. Please Sell This Team

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    It makes it worse that we Had Wilkins and AVG... but we spent a first round pick and then signed Chubb to a rdiculous contract... When at least a year before they left, AVG and Wilkins were willing to sign for less to stay in Miami.

    AVG has proven he is a plug and play... He can play all over and because of his motor and intelligence still get his hands on the football.

    For what we are paying Chubb and Ogbah we could have had AVG and Wilkins and a first round draft pick
     
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  33. JJ_79

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    Having the best QB in the game doesn’t hurt either. We once did too but sadly failed him…
     
  34. Please Sell This Team

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    having a great QB is very important.

    But consider this... When Tua was at his best this offense was running on all cylinders and looked like a top 3 unit in the league. At that time Tua was putting up numbers where he was producing like a top 5 NFL QB

    So even with a top QB that was arguably a top 5 Qb in the league...

    We could not win anything... Without the O line, D line etc...

    When I say not anything I mean.... We could not even beat teams with winning records in the second half. Much less a playoff game or the Superbowl game.
     
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  35. danmarino

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    Wilkins was offered a deal and turned it down.

    Wilkins and AVG together are getting paid more than Chubb and Ogbah together.
     
  36. texanphinatic

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    Tua is not Mahomes buddy. Nobody is Mahomes, he's a 1 of 1. It's why talented dudes like Lamar and Josh Allen can't get it done. It's why the Niners with all that talent haven't won. It's Mahomes.

    I don't disagree with some of the general team building, but specifically having Mahomes is the game changer that no other team has.
     
  37. Born_in_'72

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    This dude is doing his best to earn that rep.
    [​IMG]
     
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  38. Please Sell This Team

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    ...

    Wilkins made I very clear he wanted to stay a year before when the asking price was lower... Do you have the terms or numbers for the deal Wilkins was offered?
     
  39. TheHighExhaulted

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    This post is just riddled with nonsense.
     
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  40. danmarino

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    His agent said he was offered a very good deal and Wilkins turned it down. He bet on himself and won. Now he’s one of the highest paid defensive players in the league and is on IR for the rest of the season.
     

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