Phillips out for year with knee injury

An ankle injury that needed some smelling salts to go back into the game. I wonder if the media will bring this up today or just gloss over it because Allen is 6"4, 240lb "superman", "alien", "Mr January" or whatever else they call him. He's a big, tough dude so he can shake of a concussion with no issues...

 

If Tua was offered smelling salts after slamming his head off the turf we'd lose our entire draft.

 

After consulting the Hong Kong Book of Kung Fu, the appropriate first aid for a sprained ankle is smelling salts.

You guys are just too much!

 

I blocked him. Life has been much better

 

No you haven’t. Lol

 

Which seems odd because the guy looks like a Greek God physically and looks like it should be impossible to hurt him.

 

No **** some symptoms are long lasting. That's what we're saying. He was seemingly symptom free for a month.

I'm sure he made up going temporarily blind. Like, come on dude, just hand wave dismissing anything that doesn't comport with your narrative isn't a really good look.

 

So every NFL player should not come back for how long after a concussion since symptoms can come back at a later date? 30 days? 90 days? Never?

 

Well, at least longer than one play…but then again, Buffalo does seem to have those magic smelling salts

 

Well, now we know why McDaniel doesn't work them too hard in practice. He's afraid they'll fall apart before they get out on the field for a game.

 

Grier is a genius.

How can a man with very little injury concern be out for the season?

 

He’s clearly injury prone… now. Lmao

 

No one is immune to injury, but some guys are definitely more durable than others. This is Wilkins first major injury in his career after starting and playing tons of snaps in college and 5 pro seasons. He is not injury prone. Phillips, Tua, and Armstead definitely are. Get over it.

And no, he is not out for the season at this point, its just a bone fracture. He's on IR for four games and could be back after that.

 

No one is immune to injury, but some guys are definitely more durable than others. Just like some boxers have granite chins and can take multiple punches before getting knocked out, while others have glass chins and get knocked out with a stiff wind.

People and athletes are not all built the same and can't take the same amount of punishment. Injury prone athletes do in fact exist.

 

And if Wilkins injures say his knee 4 games after coming back, does THAT make him injury prone?

I mean, I'm following your LOGIC.

This is Wilkins first career injury in his NFL career
The Achilles tear was Phillips' first career injury in his NFL career.

Phillips sustains a knee injury and is now injury prone.
Would the same label be applied to Wilkins if he sustains another injury?

 

Sure! No one is injury prone until… until… until… they are. Ya know?

 

He has a Jones Fracture. He’s not coming back in 4 weeks. You should probably just not talk about medicine or injuries.

 

You would be slamming Grier if he signed Wilkins to that contract and gotten injured.

By the way, Sieler and Campbell are the highest rated defensive tackle duo in the league according to PFF.

 

Hell, he and others like him would have complained about the contract alone. And you’re spot on that it would be a way worse b!tch-fest if Grier signed that contract and he got hurt.

I also mentioned how last season Sieler had more sacks etc than Wilkins. I was told it was only because of Wilkins. Lol

 

Well, you can't ignore Phillips extensive injury history in college. He only stayed healthy for 1 college season, while Wilkins had no major injury history in college and stayed healthly throughout his entire college career.

Phillips has also missed way more games than Wilkins in the NFL in less time. Wilkins played as a starter 5 full seasons before now getting hurt midway through his 6th season.

Phillips on the other hand only completed 1 healthy season as starter in 2022 and 1 as a backup his rookie year, and now has suffered season ending injuries 2 years in a row.

Phillips is definitley injury prone. That is just a fact dont know why you guys have such a hard time acceptiing that.

If wilkins comes back and suffers another season ending injury, then you could start talking about him being injury prone, but up until now he has proven to be very durable in comparison to phillips.

 

So your entire premise is, “Everyone has the potential to be injury prone.”

Nice one, genius. Lmao

 

Actually I can ignore his college injury history. If his college history was last season, ok you’d have a point but Phillips college history was over 3 years ago and up until week 8 of his 3rd year in the league, Phillips’ injury history in the NFL was zero…nada…zilch…nin. Up until week 8 of last season not a single solitary soul was expressing any concern about Phillips being injury prone.

Devon Achane, as much as I love that kid, IS injury prone! He’s missed games this season and last season…and this is only his 2nd year in the league.

If you or anyone else is trying to make an Achane to Phillips comparison, you seriously need a drink.

 

I disagree that Achane is injury prone. His concussion was a hard hit directly on the head and would have concussed most people.

 

Dude you can't possibly argue Achane is injury prone but Phillips isn't. Back to back season ending injuries plus a pile of collegiate injuries?

Come on man

 

Josh Allen would have been fine.

 

Speaking of Josh Allen:



Holy ****, if that was Miami...

 

Achane suffered a knee injury during his 6th game of his NFL career and was placed on IR until week 17 his rookie year. Achane has now already been injured during week 5 of his 2nd season in the league.

Phillips suffered an Achilles tendon tear on his 42nd game of his NFL career.

Now I’m not a smart person and a product of the Florida Department of Public Education but I do believe 42 is 700% more than 6 and if 42 is 700% more than 6, that means Phillips played 700% more games than Achane before getting hurt.

You guys can’t see the trees for the forest.

Now has Phillips suffered another season ending injury? Yes. Did Phillips suffer his 2nd season injury early early in his 4th season? Yes.

Was Phillips injured the 6th game of his rookie season? No
Was Phillips injured at all his rookie season? No
Was Phillips injured his second season? No
Weeks 1-8 of his 3rd season, was there any concern about Phillips being injured? No.

No one had ANY concern of Phillips being injured. In fact, everyone had a hard on for Phillips and his pass rush.

And even after he tore his Achilles, do I need to go back and re-post everyone’s praise and excitement over his rehab? It’s all there and no concern of injury.

Now all of a sudden, he’s injury prone when he’s been one of the more reliable pieces of our defense.

But you all go right ahead. Ignore the facts. Call for Grier to dump him. He’ll be traded, get on with a good team like the Lions or reunite with Thor in Minnesota or maybe head out to San Francisco and he’ll end up in a championship game before the Dolphins will. And everyone post Phillips will be griping about Grier getting rid of yet another great player of ours.

 

And what if Achane plays for the next decade and only suffers a few bumps and bruises, like all RB’s do over a decade, and has a terrific career? Will he then all of a sudden not be “injury prone “?

That’s why “injury prone”, unless a player has a chronic issue like arthritis, bad back, etc, is not really a thing.

 

“That’s as deep as I’ll get into it.” Something is getting deep, that’s for damn sure.

 

Could you imagine paying him all that money, then him missing most of the season?

 

My question is why didn't the helmet to helmet hit on Achane get called?

 

When you find out, let me know. I can understand calls being missed in the heat of a game, at real time speed, but that game was 5 days ago and there’s been no admission of mistakes.

 

Like Wilkins?

 

Phillips must have a very strong faith. Staying this positive after what he went through last year only to go through it all over again must be so hard.

 

I think a lot of people get sucked in because we are fans and we love this team so much.

But when you remove the attachment you have for the team and look at it.... It is Fugly.

This is a team that refused to invest in the O line.

We lowballed Williams to the point where he would rather not play football than ever play for us.
We let Hunt walk... and Hunt is a top 5 guard in the NFL

And we somehow expected the offence to be as good or better than it was a season ago?

Ditto on the defence.... Let Wilkins and AVG walk and people are surprised that we cannot stop the run or get the same kind of pressure on the QB

But hey, we have a really fast wide receiver....(Rolls eyes.)

 

To be fair you are sitting here waiting for anything he says and then moving the goal posts to turn his words against him... Congrats. Your intent and purpose are not to further the board discussion... Rather only to follow this poster around for the purpose of your own enjoyment.....(and his embarassment)

Congrats.

 

Letting AVG go was a mistake, especially given what it would have cost to keep him. Wilkins contract demands were prohibitive, imo.

I would have retained Hunt, probably before extending Ramsey and maybe before extending Waddle, but we know Grier’s priorities don’t work that way. He would rather have bright, shiny (and fast) toys than bricks in a wall.

 

Yeah, nearly all of this is just not true.

The biggest issue with the team has been injuries and a lack of depth to replace those who were injured. That's definitely an issue, but you're not addressing this.

Where is this info about Williams that you're claiming? He's playing football. It seems the Dolphins didn't prioritize him, but if they had signed him to a long term and expensive contract you and some others here would be crying about how Grier signed another "injury prone" player. Brewer is playing very well. As well as Williams did and is. And he's cheaper than Williams. S what's the problem?

No one "let" Wilkins walk. I've told you this many times, he was offered a top 10 contract, refused to sign it, and then moved on when he was given the highest DT contract (at the time) ever. Should Grier have pointed a gun at his head and demanded he sign the offer? Wilkins is done for the year, BTW. With an injury that has a very high re-injury rate. He may never be the same.

The AVG issue is a head scratcher, but I've also addressed this as to the probable reasons why he left. It looks as if the Vikings tampered with him, he wanted to get closer to home, and he left. It sucks, a lot, but there's really no reason to think that Grier refused to pay him such a low amount of money. And, Grier isn't even the one who does contracts. He has no part in that process.

The defense is currently ranked 18th against the run. Last year they were ranked 17th. So, again, you're just wrong. Sieler had more sacks than Wilkins last season and Wilkins and Sieler have the same number of sacks up to this point this season. Sieler and Campbell are pressuring the QB more than Sieler and Wilkins did last season.