Phillips out for year with knee injury

Terrible news. He worked so hard to get back on the field and now this. Terrible.

 

This is horrible news.

 

Did we pick up his 5th year option yet?

 

We need to be sellers at the deadline.. anyone and everyone that can land us first and second day picks.

 

Damn, this sucks! Phillips worked his A$$ off to be ready for the season.

I’m really starting to become a believer in the curse of Joe Robbie.

 

My guess is he will retire

 

Amputation is my guess.

 

I’m sure his concussions had an effect on his ACL. Lol

 

Another blow in a horrible season. I think they will still pick up his 5th year option and let him play that out next year but I definitely wouldn't be offering up any kind of extension.

 

I just read Miami had already picked up his 5th year option for 13m.

 

You posted the same thing in Club, but even more disparaging. You’d be hard pressed to find anyone that believed you were “joking”. If you say you were, fine, but my reply wasn’t based on a “joke”. You seemed serious.

 

All those reports about this team being soft and not practicing hard ring a little louder when these injuries keep piling up.

 

Dolphins sign Tyus Bowser, put Jaelan Phillips on IR

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/dolphins-sign-tyus-bowser-put-jaelan-phillips-on-ir

 

****ing sucks

 

We're wiping out the rest of the league's practice squads.

 

I called it when we drafted phillips, he's a good player when healthy, but has a hard time staying healthy. Of course Grier always ignores injury concerns and here we are.

 

And they also had a walk through on Wednesday. Just when does this team actually practice?

No wonder they have so many alignment penalties, they have barely practiced together.

 

Did I miss the lower body injuries he had in college?

Or are you saying we shouldn't be drafting talented players that have concussions in college in case they blow out their Achilles and a team mate takes out their ACL?

 

STFU… lmao… I’m sure that you do believe that a concussion affects people’s ACL’s, but smart people do not.

 

Teams can only practice with pads 14 times per year and a max of 1 time per week. They practiced in pads on Monday.

 

You can still run practice without pads though, right? (Genuine question as I don't know). Also, maybe my terminology is wrong but I thought a walkthrough was different from a pad less practice.

This team just doesn't seem as well conditioned as last year, there have been guys pulling themselves out of games after running 1 route.

 

Phillips had multiple injuries in college not just concussions. He was only relatively healthy for 1 year in college, even retired at one point because of injuries. Asside from the concussions, he had ankle injuries and was in a big car accident that required multiple reconstructive surgeries. He was damaged goods when we drafted him injury red flags were off the chart, which is why I brought it up as a big concern on draft day. Let's not act surprised now.

 

Phillips also had ankle and back problems in college and was involved in a big car accident that require multiple reconstructive surgeries. He was only relatively healthy for 1 year in college injury red flags were clear as day but of course Grier ignores things like that and here we are.

And to repeat myself again, body parts are not isolated inna box, the body is an interconnected network and not everyones body holds up to punishment the same. Some guys are just not as durable and get injured more often, regardless of it being the same body part or not.

At the end lf the day it's about durability and availabilty. I dont care if it was different injuries to different body parts we want guys who have histories of being duarble and available, not of having multiple injuries and missing games every season.

 

He had a sprained ankle in college. He hurt his wrist in the scooter accident when a car hit him. None of those things have any bearing on anything you think it does. He did “retire” due to concussions, and yet he hasn’t had one concussion in the NFL.

You're just not smart and have no idea what you’re even talking about.

 

Dan, you are the last person on this site who should be talking about being smart. You have been wrong about mostly everything going back to the gase era.

This predraft evaluation of phillips was spot on. Injury red flags were everywhere. It was a bad decision by Grier picking him in the first round. There is no arguing that and him continuing to be plagued by injuries could have been easily predicted. See prediction and correct evaluation below.

A random PT on the internet got it right, but your beloved Grier who gets paid millions to get these evals correct fumbled the ball as he usually does.

https://www.cover1.net/nfl-draft-injury-impact-miami-edge-jaelan-phillips/

"Evaluating Phillips as a whole, he really should be a player drafted in the late second to third round. That’s where I believe he will fall in the draft. But due to the lack of players with a true first-round grade and his 2020 tape, he will probably go later on Day 1 with some team falling in love with really one year of production.

The concussions and wrist injury are concerning. Phillips has been forced to walk away once. He’s identified his passion as music. There are a lot of players that play football because they are good at it, it doesn’t mean they love it. How close is Phillips to getting another injury and saying, this isn’t worth it after he has some money in his pocket and can say he played in the NFL? Really, only he knows. I do believe he is worth a draft pick, but just not a first-round pick if a team is trying to build something long-term.

I want to be wrong but I have reservations about Phillips’ career longevity once he gets into the league, especially if he doesn’t go somewhere where they are winning or if he suffers another concussion. Whatever team selects him in the draft better have a specific plan for him and use him immediately. Any GM seeing him as a cornerstone of the defense may be looking for jobs in several years if the above-mentioned numbers hold true. Phillips can play, but he may be best suited in a rotational defense and used often within his first few years in the league, rather than going through the developmental phases where injury could stunt or eliminate his growth as a player altogether.

Phillips, to me, is an example of potential versus reality. He has great potential, but I don’t believe the reality will match that and a team may be left wondering what happened. Hopefully, Phillips has a productive NFL career, but there are too many red flags to be certain."

 

Yeah, yeah… I don’t know why I humor someone with such low intelligence. It’s obvious you’re just throwing crap at the wall. Your inability at rational thinking is obvious. Your schtick is that of a clown. You lie, troll, and then feign innocence when called out for both.

 

Lol, classic Dan. Resort to name calling when proven wrong for the umpteenth time.

 

I just read Phillips has a partial acl tear. It was the result of Jordan Poyer knocking into him. Not sure if this is "injury prone" or just another case of bad luck but it's just really unfortunate. So what happens now with a partial tear? My most recent memory is when Tannehill had a partial tear, came back too soon trying to avoid reconstructive surgery and totally tore it the following summer.

 

With a partial tear might as well just get the reconstructive surgery anyway. Ligaments dont repair themselves it will eventually tear completly without surgery as happened to Tannehil.

He should get the surgery and will have 9-12 month rehab.

 

This sux. I love the guy, but you can't help the club when your always in the tub

 

I think you’re reaching here Hitman. His
Collegiate injuries were completely unrelated to the injuries he’s sustained in the NFL.

Phillips had 2 concussions, a non-football related wrist injury and 2 ankle sprains.

Last season, Phillips sustained a non contact Achilles tendon rupture and this season, a non-contact partial ACL tear.

His 2 NFL injuries are completely unrelated to his collegiate injuries. Had Phillips suffered a concussion or another ankle sprain injury, the. I would agree his previous injuries should have been a concern, but these 2 are unrelated.

 

You are missing the point by focusing on if he reinjured the same body part. Being injury prone does not mean you keep aggravating the same exact injury. It's about being injured often and missing games consistently, regardless of what body part it is. Phillips only completed one relatively healthy season in college, which should have clearly raised a red flag about his durability in the draft, which Grier completely ignored.

Most times a player who gets injured often in college will continue to be injurrd often in the pros as the game does not get easier or less physical at the pro level and their physiology is not going to change or get better as they get older.

We made the same mistake with Devante Parker for example, he was often injured in college, and he continued to get different injuries and miss games often in the pros.

Same case with Tua, Armstead, etc...

Previous history is the best predictor of future performance. Grier seems to think these players will magically stop being injury prone when they put on aqua and orange, which of course they dont and we end up wasting money and draft picks on often injured players.

Grier likes to buy lemons thinking he is getting a steal and they will stop being lemons, they won't.

 

“If anybody outside of a trained medical professional expresses concern for a player’s situation, run for the hills. That’s especially true if the person’s primary evidence echoes something along the lines of “he’s been hurt in the past” or “he’s missed [X] amount of games in [Y] years”.

“The bottom line is that when a player has a wrist fracture followed by an ACL tear then later on is concussed, there’s no statistical or scientific pattern to be drawn. That’s bad luck. That’s the game of football. The opposite is also true: a player with a clean bill of health does not make him impervious to contact injuries like ACL tears, MCL sprains, and high ankle sprains.”

 

Hitman believes what he does because he’s not able to intelligently understand the topic.

 

I truly don't understand why we have to even have this discussion.

 

Ok? You can't deny that Phillips has been often injured going back at least to college. You can argue that the injuries aren't related, he isn't injury prone...but you're arguing against actual history. Your arguing that in this case we should ignore all past evidence.

Whether he's got "bad luck" or is "injury prone" is meaningless. It's an argument that does nothing but detract from the point. Like either way, the dude is always missing time due to injury.