QB Tyler Huntley Signs with Dolphins

Bryce does not have the vision to throw over linemen.

and hes not a dual threat quarterback, per the stats, hes not a good passer outside the pocket. So what are we truly asking for a guy at 5’10 in the pocket to do? Ive seen him miss wide open recievers rolling outside the pocket.

Hes not made for the NFL. Hes Pat White.

i would even go far enough to say. Rodgers and Brees both have better mobility than Bryce. Tua is a much better mobile quarterback.

lets stop all the Bryce to Dolphins talk, he isnt the answer. And as long as Tua accounts for that much money in the cap, we are clearly not going to look for other options or else we would have done better than Tyler freaking Huntley.

 

And here we go:

https://athlonsports.com/nfl/espn-t...long-term-replacement-dolphins-tua-tagovailoaESPN Proposes Blockbuster Trade Sending Former No. 1 Overall Pick to Dolphins as Long-Term Replacement for Tua Tagovailoa

 

This would be idiotic. There will be better options in next year's draft. They should use a 1st rounder on a QB and develop him if they want a long term replacement for Tua. If Tua stays healthy great. If he doesn't we have the next franchise QB on a rookie contract ready to take over.

 

I think you have got to draft QB as high as possible every year again until you find your guy. Tua clearly cannot be depended on, so you find the best guy and move on. Send Tua to some team with a good oline maybe he could play out some more years.

 

Another Alabama Qb?No thanks!
Tua was overdrafted,Jones,and now this guy.
This is not college!

 

Nobody is going to trade for Bryce Young in the middle of the season especially the Dolphins

 

I doubt any team would trade for Tua with that contract and injury history.Not to mention he is not actually clutch in prime time games

 

Young is most definitely a dual threat QB. He runs a 4.4 40. He just did not run often at Alabama.
Saying that, I would throw a day 3 pick at him in order to see what McD could do with him. I never saw him as anything near a 1st RD pick.

 

If u like Tua or not he is most likely coming back.
Just heard Mosert say the night after Tuas concussion he went to Disney on Ice with Tua and his family.
If the concussion was that serious I don't think he would be allowed to go to Disney on ice the next night.

 

OK, I actually agree with you on this. If a team truly wants to land a franchise QB, then you keep drafting them until one of them sticks. Arizona took Josh Rosen and then doubled down the very next year and took Kyler Murray. San Diego had Drew Brees and went with Phillip Rivers two years later only to end up with two franchise QB's on one roster. It's a problem I'll gladly deal with at this point. Rumors are circling right now about Bryce Young. If we trade a draft pick for Bryce Young and give him a shot, I wont be mad.
We absolutely need to (at all costs) find a quarterback that we can win with. People use the old "You don't need a franchise quarterback to win a Super Bowl" bit. That may hold some truth and may have been very true twenty years ago, but fifteen of the last twenty Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks were arguably franchise-level Quarterbacks that had or have consistent longevity and success in this league. In the years that these guys weren't winning Super Bowls, they were coming up a game or two short of reaching them, OR they lost in the Super Bowl. A franchise/top flight talent Quarterback will keep your team in contention every single year regardless of the circumstances that team is facing. A great quarterback can win with a banged up offensive line, a great quarterback can win throwing to second-string receivers. We watched Dan Marino keep us in contention on basically a yearly basis (minus one or two down seasons) his entire career. He did it with scraps to work with and made it happen.

Right now, we have a Ferrari and no driver. It's great that guys are getting healthy. It's great that Beckham is going to make an appearance eventually. It won't matter though if Skylar Thompson is the one throwing him the ball. I've supported Tua, but he is injury-prone, that is a fact. Aside from the Baltimore game two years ago, he's been unable to generate a come from behind win OR beat a top team like the Chiefs or Bills in this league. It just hasn't happened. Those are facts I can accept about him. The injury issues are more concerning than anything else, but at this point, we can't afford to continue being wrong about anything much less the quarterback position. You keep at it until you find your guy. I think Arch Manning in 2026 should be the ultimate goal with this franchise. In April I'd be looking at names like Shedeur Sanders or Carson Beck.

I'm going to close with this and I hope I eat these words (God do I ever). We are going to get absolutely SMOKED with Skylar Thompson quarterbacking this team. There isn't a chance in hell we're winning a single game with him at Quarterback. Eventually, we'll see Huntley and while he's a serviceable backup in a tight situation for a game or two, he's not the answer either. This is going to be a down year for us. You could see it in the first game against Jacksonville. There's something off about us this year and it's way beyond Tua and his issues. Tua getting hurt was a sidestep from how bad things were going to be for us this season.
Now, if we somehow go to Seattle and beat them tomorrow and Thompson goes 24-28 with 300 yards, and 2 TDs, I might jump back on the wagon of hope, but right now (the night before) it's looking pretty grim. I don't think it's gonna happen. I think he's going to get eaten alive. Like I said...I hope he balls out and someone finds this quote and throws it up in my face. I'll gladly take the beating for that to happen.

 

Same...I would offer something for him. Only because we need to explore all avenues in regard to securing the quarterback position. As much as I've supported Tua, the injuries/concussions are extremely frustrating. It's like having a sweet ride that's always breaking down. I have a feeling Tua will be back by week 8. I certainly hope Thompson plays well for us in his absence, but I don't see it. I think Thompson is living off of his 2022 preseason hype and it's on life support at this point. We're going to have some real problems once he's exposed again against Seattle. As I said in the previous post, I hope like hell I'm wrong, but I think we're all in for a frustrating afternoon tomorrow on both sides of the ball. Thompson playing like **** is only going to exasperate the entire situation. If he plays bad, I do look for us to pull the plug on him AND on a trade. As far as Tua goes, if he comes back and plays...Great, but he can't be trusted from a durability point of view. It's crazy how ugly things have gotten so fast. I feel like we're looking at another Daniel Jones situation with the Giants. People can argue about Tua's ability, but there really is no argument when it comes to him being injury-prone. At this point, the reputation is tattooed firmly on his forehead. I hope I'm wrong, but it's not looking good.

 

I’m not advocating that we trade for Young, just passing along Dolphin related news. After what he showed on his first 19 games, the most Carolina could expect is a sixth round pick for him. With that said, I doubt they are that desperate to get rid of him.

 

To play Devil’s advocate, Carolina is a train wreck. I doubt any QB would look serviceable on that team.

 

My post wasn't at all directed at you.

 

No, no and NO!!!!

Sorry Res but it’s this Chris Grier mindset that has handcuffed this team for decades. Do I think having a bonafide franchise quarterback is essential? Absolutely, you won’t get any argument from me there, but THE position…the ONE position (if you will) that’s the Dolphins Achilles Heel is the offensive line.

Tua goes down during the 2022 season twice for concussions and what SHOULD have been plug and play quarterback wise ended up a train wreck. We were what, 1-6 with backup quarterbacks that season?

Last season (and for the 2022 season), Tua’s talent was able to mask mediocre offensive line play. Now Tua is out for the next 4 games and now it’s a street brawl just to try and win any of these games. And why? The offensive line.

Unless there is an absolute stud elite skills set player in the draft, we’ve GOT to draft OL again and again until we can get that line so solid that no one lays a hand on the quarterback and opens holes big enough to drive a Mack truck through.

I’m sick and tired of being in utter panic mode every time any of our starting quarterbacks have gone down. Build that effing line and we won’t have to worry about our quarterback getting injured…and even if he did, the race car is already built for the next driver to get behind the wheel.

 

It's not an either or thing, DK. You have to do both. Of course we need to focus on the OL. Even before that, we need to find a GM who thinks the OL is important and can actually draft good Olineman. That's first. We don't yet have that GM. We need to find him fast. "We're not worried about our group like a lot of you" or whatever BS he said.

 

Yeah that's great dude.

However without a QB we are toast. I don't disagree with you about oline. But I also don't believe in dropping first rounders on oline. Nothing I said precludes them from also building. I just said they need to be using high level picks on QB.

 

There really is nothing for them to hang their hat on at the moment. What makes things worse is the bevy of picks the gave up to get Young, which has made it harder to restock a talent starved roster.

 

No worries, I don’t think it’s a possibility for us or any other team. No way does Carolina admit the biggest move they ever made is a colossal failure this soon. We’ve been linked to at least half a dozen quarterbacks in the last week, including Russell Wilson and Aidan O’Connell. Basically, any qb that teams (or their fans) want to get rid of, lol.

 

Theyre so bad, they should be relegated off the NFL. There are teams in the CFL and the XFL/usfl that can beat them

 

Just remember the year they had Baker and Darnold, they were offered 2 firsts for Brian Burns and turn them down. They then traded him this past offseason for a second and fifth round pick.

I dont even know how they still have fans, well they dont the stadium is empty, they dont even drop people to sell concessions because its so empty during games.


Also i saw a stat, ever since Baker and Sam left carolina, theyre like a combined 50 touchdown/12 int playing elsewhere.

 

Tua retires then the first pick is a QB without question. Tua doesn't then I think they should look at the second or third round.

 

Maybe I'll eat crow by 7 tonight but I'm supporting Skylar until Tua comes back. He's been here for 3 years and should know the system well. Anyone else they bring in after the season already started would need time to learn and get acclimated to the team. It's Skylar or bust. He beat out Mike White for a reason. Fins up!

 

McD, with Skylar, almost beat the Bills in Buffalo in the playoffs. Now, Skylar couldn’t have played any worse, but the game plan McD came up with was ingenious. Hopefully he has something similar for this game and for the time Tua misses. Weaver better have his guys flying around, too.

 

All you need to know about bryce is going on right now.. goodness

 

Based on the game comments, I guess it will be Tyler Huntley's team until Tua is back? I didn't see a single play yesterday however based on the score and those comments, it was a terrible performance all around. And maybe with this O-line, his running ability is what we need.

 

Yep…yesterday’s game with Dalton makes Young look even worse.

 

Meanwhile Bo Nix is looking pretty good

 

he may know the system well, but that does not mean he can execute it. He is Tannehill 2.0 not accurate and can't process fast enough.

 

He looked pretty bad the first two games. Too small of a sample size either way.

 

Getting better each week. He actually didn't look bad in the first two.

 

Drew Brees was 6' 00", Russell Wilson was 5' 11".

 

Drew brees had one of the best throwing mechanics to ever play the game. Russell Wilson outside the pocket throwing percentages is one of the best in nfl history.. bryce is below average outside the pocket and his passes get batted down inside the pocket.

andy dalton gave him a lesson yesterday on what it takes to be a quarterback. Youve got to be fearless and trust your receivers. You have to throw with confidence to your targets. Dalton did THAT without first team reps all offseason.

 

Truthfully I think Huntley should start the next game for us. Skylar Thompson is simply not going to get it done and neither is Tim Fkin Boyle. We look really stupid letting Mike White go at this point because he's better than all three of them and has actually proven that in this league when he was with the Jets. Not having a quality backup quarterback for Tua was beyond idiotic. Between not addressing that and the O-line it's time for Grier to go. Like I said, I'm not here to argue with any of you on how you feel about Tua or Grier. I'm simply handing in my resignation as far as Grier goes. I think Tua needs to be done as well for his own well being, but all good if he wants to come back. However, if we can't keep him healthy, then it's best that he retires. Again, ability was never the question. The way this team performs without him leading the offense should be a clear-cut indicator that he has the talent and ability to get it done in this league as a quarterback. The offense is day and night without him on the field and I don't believe that's even debatable regardless of how you feel about him. IF he does come back around week 8...Fine...That's on him. If he wants to keep getting his a$$ whooped, let him. He's on what? His 4th concussion? Warren Moon had 6 of them. The difference is Tua doesn't have the toughness of a Warren Moon (a guy who played into his 40s). In fact Moon at age 39-40 started all 16 games for the Vikings that season, threw for over 4,000 yards, and had 33 TDs (arguably his best season).

Anyway, for now, I think Huntley should start. I'm curious to see what he can do for us. In Baltimore, he was more of a game manager, didn't throw a lot, but rarely made mistakes. The thing is, he had no one to throw to in Baltimore. I'd like to see McDaniels just turn him loose and see what happens. We've got nothing to lose at this point.

 

Speaking of horrible front office decisions Miami has made. ‍

 

Do you blame Tua's lack of wins against playoff caliber teams with winning records on his play, McDaniel's play calling, or none of the above?

My only problem with Tua's abilities is his lack of a big arm. He simply doesn't instill the fear of the deep ball that forces defensive coordinators to back up their secondary, and open up the field for us offensively.

 

Miami's big problem is we have long been cursed by GM's who think an Offensive Line is an after thought and free agents and late round draft choices can be adequate or projects.

 

Huh? Over the last two years he’s been at or near the top in deep ball passing.

 

Teams have been successfully playing two high safeties against Miami for the sole reason of stopping the deep ball. I promise you teams aren't stacking the box against Miami because they don't fear the deep ball.

McDaniel hasn't come up with a counter yet and is too stubborn to just run the ball.

 

Yes guys with weaker arms can be effective deep ball throwers. But they certainly don't threaten a defense with the deep ball the same way a strong arm QB does.