I don't see why not, but maybe the team should give our two backups an honest chance before they.make that call?
I'd rather go 1-16 than bring in a competent QB just to win a handful of games. That's my fan perspective the players and coaches would hate it. Owner would probably love it tho.
First I like Ryan Tannehill, but agree to an extent. I think they should start shopping new GM's now, and once they have a handful of strong candidates then let Grier go at the end of the year. Is it too early to start campaigning for Bill Belechik as GM? If anyone knows how to build a championship offensive line it is Belechik. Bill Cowher is another man I would love to see take the top spot in our front office.
agreed. Tank for a QB who can stay on the field and play in big games. Fire Grier Trade anyone you can but this years draft, Achebe and Phillips
I would imagine Bill isn't going anywhere without also being the coach but regardless of that he isn't a good GM. Great coach but not great GM. And he is old
I think Bill could be a great stand alone GM. I don't think it was a lack of ability in picking talent and running the front office as much as it was the fact that he had to many hats on at the same time. Any way about it he would be an immediate upgrade over Grier.
If Bill is going anywhere it's going to be the Giants, who are going through another disastrous season. Bill loves the Giants, always has.
Go sign the absolute fastest QB you can find. Who is that ? Maybe Tyler Huntley ? Because whoever it is, they are going to be running for their life playing behind sieves like Lester Cotton, Kendall Lamm, Eichenberg and Brewer.
Bill was a horrible GM. Especially in the later years His drafts, other than getting lucky with Brady, were mostly below average to horrible nearly his entire career as GM/HC. In his earlier years he had some really good drafts and then fell off of a cliff. The reason the Pats were still able to compete regardless of the drafts was Tom Brady and FA’s willing to sign with the Pats for below market value. And when Brady left we see the types of team he really built. Crap
I actually agree with the tanking recommendation. I have my doubts that Tua will either want to play or will be allowed to play. As someone mentioned, the NFL has a hard on for the Dolphins and they get put under a microscope constantly. There is real bias there against the Dolphins. Look at last week. Sauce gets smacked in the head, is ataxic, confused, and barely able to get up. He left the game for a few plays and came back in. No spotter called and said take him out. Whereas last week Waddle gets grazed in the head, shows not one inkling of a concussion, and the NFL spotters immediately call for him to be removed and checked out. Or last year when the Rams played the Lions. Stafford was knocked out after hitting the back of his head on the turf.Was in a fencing position. Wobbly. Etc… He goes out a few plays and it’s deemed a “chest injury.” It’s ridiculous.
I'd look at the 9ers, Rams and Packers practice squad quarterbacks. Any one of them might be better than Tim Boyle
This is definitely true. And would you really want this guy as GM? Yeesh. Coach, maybe but GM no way.
Tim Boyle is hot garbage. You saw that last year when he played for the Jets. If Tua is out you ha love to sign someone better than Boyle to be backup. Why they went with Boyle over Mike White is mystifying to me. White is 100x better than Boyle.
As much as I would love to see him in our front office I cannot call that bad news. I'm from Florida, but my family is from Connecticut and huge Giant's fans. Needless to say in my house every week it was rooting for the Dolphins and the Giants, so the Giants have always been my #2 team.
Tom Brady's name popped up on possibilities. Not really a surprise. Would the Phins temporarily unretire #12 if they were to sign him?
Belichick was hot garbage as a GM, that team was the way it was because of Brady. The offensive lines were generally solid, but they also had the top OL coach for like two decades in Scarnecchia (sp). Between that and Brady, they got luck with the Moss trade and then the Gronk thing. He is the reason that team tanked as soon as Brady walked out the door. I do think it could be interesting to try and tank the season, but from a talent perspective i don't think we aren't a bottom 5 team even with bad QB play. You'd probably be looking at the second or third tier of QB prospects - the JJ McCarthy's or Bo Nix's or Will Levis. The biggest question (assuming Tua doesn't return or the team no longer counts on him as a long term solution) is whether Ross would stil entrust Grier and/or McDaniel. Does he see and think of them as solutions and guys who can figure this out? Or as failures whose plan just went bust and who can't be entrusted with a banana stand. If it was me, I'd be seeing about dumping high priced vets for draft capital and starting over while still maintaining some talent (the Sieler, Waddle, Achane, Phillips level guys). But man, I have no idea what this team and Ross will do. I do know I have lost all confidence.
Tbt I see Ross as the biggest organizational hurdle the Dolphins have holding them back from success.
How is Ross the biggest organizational hurdle to success? Miami was voted by the players as one of the best organizations to play for in terms of facilities, training staff, etc. He has not shied away from spending money on this team. He got caught with the Payton/Brady situation, something every team does, and got disproportionally punished by the league compared to other teams that got caught doing the same thing. There are far worse owners in the league - Mike Brown and David Tepper come immediately to mind.
Yeah. The Ross hate is misguided handwringing by those who don’t know what’s going on and are just screaming at the clouds. Very old people and children do these types of things.
Correct, he‘s just been unlucky selecting quality football personal and getting caught doing normal NFL business.
In the heat of emotion, it’s easy to start pointing fingers and blaming people. My biggest beef with Ross is the same beef I have with Jerry Jones in Dallas; he stays loyal to certain people for far too long. Jones’ loyalty to Romo was undying to a fault. Jones’ loyalty to Prescott is undying to a fault and Ross’ loyalty to Grier has been undying to the detriment to the team. While I credit Grier with all praise deserved for his off-season acquisition of such talent such as Hill and his ability to draft highly valuable skill position players such a Tua, Waddle and Wilkins, Grier has failed MISERABLY at bringing in elite offensive linemen. Hell, I’d even settle for AVERAGE offensive linemen but the offensive line has been utterly pathetic since the days he was an errand boy for the team. Miami’s lack of ADEQUATE offensive line play has been the team’s Achilles Heel and has hampered the quarterback play, from Chad Henne to Ryan Tannehill and even I dare say Tua. Sitting here watching the Texans/Bears game, I’m watching Houston’s OL manhandle the Bears, pushing the line of scrimmage and opening holes large enough to drive a Mack truck through. If the Dolphins had an OL like THAT, there’s no doubt in my military mind Mostert and Achane…with Wright in the wings, both having 1500 yards rushing. There’s no doubt in my mind Tua wouldn’t have to get rid of the ball in less than 2 seconds after the snap and HUGE down field plays could open up. We’d be unstoppable with that kind of offensive line play but as long as Grier is our GM, that’s not going to happen and Ross will never part with Grier. That’s MY beef with Ross.
TDK, I agree completely. It’s impossible to understand his thinking on this subject. His insistence that the players on the roster are good enough is baffling. His only hit was on Jackson, and that took three years to come to fruition; he could have drafted him with the pick they used for Noah I or even a second rounder.
Marino took a front office job back in the day and quit a day later. He's a legend here, he's not going to tarnish himself to the fans with bad personnel decisions.
I'd take a flyer on Austin Reed he's on the Bears practice squad. Dude looked good in training camp and in the little bit he got to play in the preseason (granted its was against 3s & 4s).
Get rid of Grier and replace him with a bag of chips. His refusal/inability to improve the talent on the O line is borderline criminal.
I kinda know of Reed. He did look very good in preseason. Better then I thought he would actually. In college he would only throw to one side of the field. He did have injury his senior year that could have affected him. He sat out the teams bowl game. His backup lit it up in the game and the offense looked totally different with the backup running it.
If the thinking has been that Tua can get rid of the ball fast enough to not need a line, well we are more screwed then we were before with the OL
What position does not need every other player to perform well to be good, but every other player needs this position to perform well for them to be good? Answer? The offensive line!! The quarterback can be 0 for 50 pass attempts, but if the line holds the rush for 4-5 seconds and allows for zero sacks, the OL did its job The running back can have 25 rushes for only 25 yards but if the OL opened the holes and creates the gaps for the back to hit, the OL did its job.
