Tua...''He's the greatest prospect ever''

Remember my whole "batsh*t crazy" posting from earlier today? No serious Dolphins fan would ever entertain the idea of ditching Tua for one of these guys. Also...

Tyrod - signed with the Bills.
Pickett - under contract with the Steelers.
Zach Wilson - under contract with the Jets.
Cooper Rush - under contract with the Cowboys.

None of these guys are free agents.

 

Taylor signed with the Jets, but the point still remains. lol

 

Brain fart moment, I guess I was remembering his time on the Bills.

 

Even me, huh? Fun. While his release is quick, his superpower is getting the ball out quickly, accurately, on time, and deep. The late season "collapse" would have been so much worse with most other QBs given the OL and WR injury situations in those games. Just look at his rating vs the average rating for the last 4 defenses the Dolphins faced:

Jets (3rd best Pass D via QB rating) averaged a 76, Tua had 119.4
Cowboys (6th best) averaged a 80.8, Tua had 98.1
Ravens (1st) averaged a 74.6 Tua had 71.9
Bills (7th) averaged a 81.9 Tua had a 62.7

For reference the Dolphins D averaged giving up a 93.

Are you going to make a better argument than the average Cowherd follower, (what are you guys called, cattle? Apologies if you don't follow Collin. Speculation on my part) or should I just ignore you?

 

Good sense commentary!

 

Yes, that is a viable strategy until the team is able to draft and develop a rookie QB who leads the Dolphins to playoff game victories.

 

Just to confirm, I proffered several potential-Dolphins-bridge-QB-names, but you guys don't like any of them.
Instead you prefer to now have Tua join the OVERPAID NFL QB CLUB. And if the Tua-led Dolphins struggle to .500 record (s) you can say "we just did what the other teams did and paid up for our franchise QB".

 

Except when it was beating those same teams… Ravens and Bills, for example.

difference? Injuries. Context, and injuries, matter.

 

Dude…

Football is the only true team sport. You’re advocating Flores 2.0, gutting the roster, intentionally loose in order to roll the dice ona rookie quarterback in hopes that ONE player will be some superhuman savior. Utter nonsense!


Trevor Lawrence…Still Waiting
Zach Wilson…bust
Trey Lance…bust
Justin Fields…bust
Mac Jones…bust
Joe Burrow…2 season ending injuries
Justin Herbert…average at best
Jordan Love…inconsistent is thy name

The above listed quarterback, all 1st round pick with at least 3 years in the league and none of them, with the exception of Joe Glass has had the success Tua has had.

And you want to gut and roll the dice yet again? Utter nonsense. History is not on your side when it comes to 1st round quarterbacks.

It becomes an exercise in futility to continuously remind folks that quarterbacks have success due to their OL and receivers. Running backs have success due to their OL. Teams have success due to their HCs.

No ONE player is the saving Grace of a team. It is a collective endeavor. If anyone truly believes that ONE player is the reason the Dolphins lost this game or that game…that we lost in the playoffs then you truly don’t know the game and don’t understand football at all.

 

Now you're singing my song and so should agree that overpaying for Tua (or any other QB) is a mistake.

 

The going rate for a franchise QB is what you pay or you don't have a franchise QB.

I'd love it if there was no salary cap. I'd love it if the players played for $50k a year. You're living in a deluded fantasy land. Your suggestions aren't based on any sort of reality.

 

Have you even done any research on the contracts or salaries of quarterbacks? A 5 year $250 million dollar contract for a quarterback is FAR from overpaying, especially if the terms of such have x amount in a signing and staggered annual payments lowering the salary cap hit.

You really need to research before making such uninformed statements.

 

You are correct, the majority of teams do pay the "going rate" for a QB so the media and fans label that man a "franchise QB".
But for the majority of teams that strategy, that "reality", does not result in playoff wins or Super Bowls. So why follow that path?
Why not try a different strategy such as rookie contract QB's or 1-year deals for veteran QB's?

 

Looking at him playing in the golf pro-am event a couple of weeks ago I think he's already looking like he lost some weight.

 

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Thank you Mr. Marino. It's tuff being new, permissions are limited and you can't private message anyone.

 

Cause he has no pads on. Lol

 

It is well known that at Alabama Coach Saban was critical of Tua's propensity to gain weight. And once Tua turned pro former Dolphins coach Flores questioned why Tua seemed to spend so much time practicing and playing golf. So, whether some fans to want to see them or not, there are red flags.

 

In response to fan outrage at the physical conditioning of players and their propensity to live a life, the NFL has instituted the following rules and regulations governing its players:

No player is allowed to be married
No player is allowed to date
All NFL players shall reside on the facility in an open bay barracks
The only physical activity players will be permitted to engage is in weight training, running and drills pertinent to the game
The only media players will be permitted to watch is game film
All players diet will be administered by the team’s nutritionist. No other food or drink will be permitted
Once players reach the age of 30, they will be taken out behind the stadium and put down like a lame horse.

Due to the fan outrage, the league has determined players are not individual people, but property of the organization and are not permitted to have a life like the fans do.

 

You're not going to find any quarterback in the weight room right now.

 

If you want millions of dollars to play a game, then you've chosen to give up the life of the average fan.

 

This may or may not be true, but if any player, including QB’s, need extra conditioning they should be. From some of his recent pics it does look like he’s lost some weight.

It’s pretty evident that Tua gained weight during the season. And I think most will say it affected his play. Now, what we don’t know is if he was being told to gain this weight or not, but if he’s smart and surrounded himself with smart people they will figure it out and make sure he doesn’t do it again. I get the idea in thinking that more weight may lessen his injury chances regarding concussions, but there needs to be a balance between safety and physical ability. If he’s too slow and out of shape does that make him more prone to other injuries?
Regardless, he’s got himself a QB coach now and his physical trainer seems to know that he needs to be quicker and more agile. Hopefully both things work.

 

QB coach and physical trainer should have happened 4 or 5 years ago.

 

He’s had a physical trainer. I agree he should have had a QB coach.

 

Tua's trainer is pretty transparent about what they work on. Last offseason it was gaining weight to protect from injury. He did so. I don't care that he lost some speed, his pocket movement and footwork were still outstanding last year, including the end of the year, and he played all games. This is much ado about little. Show me a game that Tua having a slightly faster 40 time would have had any effect on. I don't care that some think that Tua's body somehow changes his leadership. That's all gobbledygook to me. The silly side of pop psychology.

 

I agree in the sense that Tua is just thick. He just is. You can't change that.

 

I don't speak for you, but my own perspective is that Tua seems to be a nice guy but is perhaps a player who doesn't work as hard as some or maybe lacks a strong will-to-win.. For example Saban's comments about Tua's weight, Flores comments about too much golf, Tua's fanboy behavior of asking Mahomes for a signed jersey on the field minutes after Miami lost their playoff game to KC etc...
None of these criticisms make Tua a bad guy, but they certainly should be relevant when making the decision of whether to now sign Tua to a new contract.

 

Every game of every week, including playoffs, players ask the opposing team’s players for signed jerseys.

 

Agreed.

If your star QB isn't gonna take care of his body, it's a bad example for the team. You lead by example, and part of that is taking care of your body. Your play affects the the career of the guy next to you.

You want millions of dollars to play a game? Then you owe it to the boss to have yourself in tip top shape. He's paying top dollar.

 

I have come to the conclusion that Tua will be the most criticized NFL player of all time no matter what he does. So unfair to the kid.

I enjoy him keeping on proving everyone wrong and will continue to do so.