Roster Moves - Releases and Free Agent Signings

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  1. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    Hey, dude. I just wanted to touch base with you on the Armstead restructure. You seem to have a strong grasp on the cap, and I wanted you to opine on this. Am I wrong thinking it might be dangerous to restructure a contract on a guy who is essentially year-to-year? I feel like if Terron suffers a big injury, that will probably be it for him.
     
  2. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    The wording that was used was "adjusted". I feel like a little magic was worked. We have to see what it is. I'm guessing it's something similar to what the Dolphins did with Cedric Wilson's contract last off-season by eliminating a year and moving money around.
     
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  3. tirty8

    tirty8 Well-Known Member

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    Dude, I would love it if we could shorten that deal. I just think that his tank is fairly close to empty.
     
  4. Ohio Fanatic

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    You do the restructure because our window is officially now, starting with last season. push the can down the road, wonder if we'll due any voidable years, not something Grier typically does, but maybe makes sense for a pro-bowl, close to retirement kind of player like Armstead
     
  5. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Hard to know without the details, but we can be certain that his restructure will lower this year’s cap hit. His former contract was for three more years with money guaranteed, I don’t recall how much, but I believe that guarantee was for 2024 and 2025. Hopefully there’s some incentive based money so he gets more the more games he plays. I doubt he’d take a pay cut and will get the same amount he was going to get, but have it spread out with the possibility of getting more if he plays more and/or hits certain markers.

    In short, I suspect his new contract will afford us more cap space for next year, due to him getting a larger signing bonus, and less of a cap hit each season after with those hits being spread out as dead money for a year or two longer. With the possibility of him getting more money in exchange for more play.
     
  6. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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    Robert Jones is coming back.

     
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  7. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Let's see what Grier has up his sleeve today.
     
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  8. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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  9. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    I feel like Howard will be back. Don't think he will get the love he thinks he will in the open market
     
  10. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Some people live in a total different reality for sure. So thankful we have so much cap room we did not lose any of those players :)
     
  11. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Someone mentioned Sanders comfort in his holding on kicks, which is a real factor for kickers.
     
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  12. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Why?
     
  13. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Ignore the posts where you were shown to be wrong and respond to his nonsense?

    The Dolphins have signed one FA, and signed how many vets to new contracts? How is that possible? You claimed the entire team was gonna have to be cut.

    Do you think Wilkins is worth $30m AAV? Do you think Baker was worth his contract? Do you think X was worth $25m?

    Your reality is only in your head because you refuse to understand how the salary cap works. Even after having it spoon fed to you like you were 2 yrs old you can’t comprehend it.
     
  14. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Contract was not that big and he had a solid season for him. Seems logical to keep him.
     
  15. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    He carried the 9th highest cap hit on the team and they have 3 other really good TE’s.
     
  16. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Show me where I have been wrong. You are the one that has been wrong time and time again. BUT BUT BUT what about restructuring them to lower those contracts LOL LOL hilarious.

    Other then TE the other vets we have signed do NOT make the team stronger. All shows to them either being backups or camp fodder. But, you keep living in your dream reality.

    You are quickly becoming the most delusional poster on here.
     
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  17. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    But there were 9 other guys ahead of him that they could have cut.
     
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  18. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah the 2 backups behind him were really good with their 4 total catches among them for the year LOL. just stop! please!!!
     
  19. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Go back and read. Your inability (or refusal) to understand simple math and concepts is really making you seem foolish.

    You’re not even correct on your facts here, son.


    I’ll ask again, the same thing you’ve refused to answer before, when the Dolphins get to around $50m under the cap this year will you be a man and admit you were wrong?


    And keep ignoring the other questions including the ones in my last post. You ignore because you can’t process the info correctly. You don’t understand simple math. The work has been done for you. All you’d need to do is check it with some addition and subtraction. Instead, however, you’d prefer to hand-wring and whine.
     
  20. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    You went to PFF and looked at rushes instead of receiving.
     
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  21. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Kyle Pitts had more receiving yards than Smith.

    And he did it with less than 4 catches!!


    WOW!!

    Lmaoooo
     
  22. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    And now you’ll ignore this and disappear for a few days. Then come back and claim I was wrong. It’s your MO.

    you truly believed that the other Falcons’ TE’s had only 4 catches….. hahahahahah

    The info is right there! It’s easy. Just like the cap info you cant seem to grasp.
     
  23. Springveldt

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    Thing is, you didn't think the team was good enough last season and now you are complaining that they won't bring back those same players.

    Simple fact is Wilkins is going to get overpaid by someone, he's not worth the $27M per year he's about to get. Not even close to it as he's not an elite pass rusher. He makes a lot of tackles because the LB's have been terrible which leads me onto Baker.

    If you think keeping Baker at $14M per year is good cap usage, ok.

    X was counting $25M against the cap and for what? Bang average play and being injured most of the season again. I'm betting the Dolphins will bring in a vet CB who will give us what we were getting out of X.

    Hunt will be a miss but he missed half of last season anyway, same with Williams. If the guys they bring in are better than Cotton, Eichenberg and Jones then that will be an upgrade for half the season and should see better overall play where the Dolphins aren't 31st in pass block win rate.

    Next season is only as bleak as you want it to be. Just staying healthy will make the Dolphins a much better team.
     
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  24. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    49ers star DL Arik Armstead has decided to become a free agent and will be released. 2 top tier DL's now available. How many teams can afford the top of the market guys? Will this impact Wilkins?
     
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  25. StaleTacos

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    PFF had the line ranked 20th. Their pass block win rate was 31st but that goes by 2.5 seconds, and the throws are on average throw well before that.

    I agree X is washed and not worth it, but he's still better than other things we have on the roster. How do you see the Dolphins getting better players than Wilkins or Hunt? You seem to think they are going to find improvements everywhere without a whole lot of money to spend. I'm not as confident.
     
  26. texanphinatic

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    Wilkins to Raiders, about 27mil per year over 4 years.
     
  27. Vertical Limit

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    Insane money for Wilkins.. he aint that kind of player..
     
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  28. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Im here thinking 4 years 70 million is a slight overpay for Wilkins but im ok with it.. who the heck did the raiders think he is?
     
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  29. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    That's the market. We know what Wilkins is. Solid player. Very durable. Very childish, dumb penalties and not really the "game wrecker" that he is going to get paid to be.
     
  30. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Denver has agreed to sign safety Brandon Jones to a three-year deal, according to ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler. 3 years, 22.5mill.

    Jones, who turns 26 next month, was a Dolphins third-round pick in 2020 and just completed his rookie contract with the franchise. He appeared in 16 games with six starts for Miami in 2023, recording 48 total tackles, four passes defensed, and two forced fumbles.

    Overall, Jones has appeared in 54 games with 30 starts and picked off three passes, forced four fumbles, recovered three fumbles, and recorded 8.0 sacks.

    The Broncos released safety Justin Simmons late last week to save the club $14.5 million against the cap.
     
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  31. Springveldt

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    Holy overpays, $7.5M a year for Brandon Jones? Did they get him confused with someone else?
     
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  32. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    He can go injure some of their of players now.
     
  33. OwesOwn614

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    This is what I was referring to when I said that raising the salary cap by so much was going to raise the market rate for free agents. More teams being able to sign players makes the price for them go up. The only ones who won't get a bump will be running backs.
     
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  34. Springveldt

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    This is were we differ. You see it as designed in that the plays were designed to get the ball out in 2.3 seconds while I think they were designed that way out of necessity due to the interior OL being complete and utter trash. It was obvious as the season progressed they couldn't pass block and more and more quick passes got called. They also couldn't run block between the tackles either.

    ESPN had the pass block win rate at 49%. That means any pass play that took 2.5 seconds was a 50/50 in whether the pass protection had broken down by that point or not. KC lead the league in being at 77% win rate at that point. Interestingly the Bears were second and Fields still sucked.

    People then point to Tua's passer rating going down if he held onto the ball without linking it to the fact that when he held the ball he was more than likely under duress due to the garbage pass protection. Look at the last play against the Titans for instance, 3 man rush forces Tua to move off his spot at 1.9 seconds yet people wanted to blame Tua for not making something out of nothing instead of asking why 5 OL got beat by 3 guys in 1.9 seconds.

    Also, consider who played most of the snaps on the interior, that's how I think they will improve. They aren't trying to improve on Wynn, Williams and Hunt. You are trying to improve on Cotton, Eichenberg and Jones (or at least a combination of 2 of them). I think the interior of the OL will be improved this upcoming season as it really can't get any worse.

    As for Wilkins? Huge hole and they won't be replacing him with the same quality. I think they will take the rotational approach like Baltimore uses, and maybe sign a couple of bigger guys who eat up space and allow Sieler to be the main interior pass rusher. I'd love for them to sign DaQuan Jones, even as an older guy he can still play and will likely cost a quarter per year of what Wilkins just got.
     
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  35. StaleTacos

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    Tua's pressure and hit rates were some of the lowest in the league. His hit rate was the lowest. I've been through this argument too many times. Look at the two Super Bowl QBs, Mahomes and Purdy. Look at their pressure % and their hit rates on PFR (SIGNIFICANTLY higher than Tua), and then tell me Tua can't afford to hold onto the ball longer. The offensive scheme design was because they did everything to keep Tua healthy this season. They schemed his stength of getting the ball out quickly, Tua didn't take really any deep drops. Just think logically here considering coming off Tua's concussion season in '22. If you don't think that was a BIG part of McDaniel's plan in 23', then I'm not sure what to tell you.
     
  36. JJ_79

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    I‘ve read/heard that too and Sanders was better last season.
     
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  37. texanphinatic

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    Sounds like AVG to Minny on a 2 for 20 deal. Kinda wish we ponied up for that, but I can understand if they had injury concern considering the Phillips and Chubb ones. But we will need some bodies.

    Also, the guard market, wtf. Landon Dickerson for Philly at like 21 per year and Jonah Jackson with the rams for like 13-14ish.
     
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  38. TheHighExhaulted

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    Cousins got 4 years $180 million. $100 million guaranteed.

    Just a reminder, this is what some Dolphins fans wanted to do here.
     
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  39. Springveldt

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    Mostly front loaded too. $90M guaranteed in the first 2 years. No way the Dolphins could have done that.
     
  40. danmarino

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    I understand not wanting to pay Wilkins nearly $30m per, but $10m for AVG seems like a good deal. I wonder if his injury was a concern?
    Then again, Bree’s injury was a concern and look how that turned out. SMH…
     

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