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  1. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    His mental processing is definitely a part of it. They both custom built very simple systems for him. Flores RPO based and McDaniel with throwing quickly into holes. Both were/are about getting ball out quickly, because when Tua sits there and needs to process, things go pretty poorly. He's got a quick release though, no doubt about that. It's just not particularly a useful one for the team. Mac Jones had the 2nd quickest release time according to Next Gen Stats.
     
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  2. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Yeah, your snark is worse than your football knowledge.

    "“…you have a quarterback in Tua that has an ability to process information quickly… and when you have a quarterback that sees things quickly, that can get the ball to the receiver, tight end or the running back…"


    “Tua has got to get back to predetermining [what he wants to do] but not assuming [defenders are] going to move.” “This happens a lot with these Kyle Shanahan, Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak system quarterbacks where the play call is so great and the design is so great and you have such confidence in that play call, you play so convicted with what you’re going to do. “He assumes right now too much [that] if I look over there [the other way], that linebacker is going to move and I know I can throw that football [over here]."

    Your unabashed bias makes your posts pretty much worthless.
     
  3. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    It is really amazing how no other teams have injuries except the Miami Dolphins.
     
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  4. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Right, you often see the QB's still playing throwing flat footed, on the run, or while moving backwards. Amazing completions due to arm strength.
     
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  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    imo this comes down to leadership, accountability and teaching. I do not think all our injuries is bad luck
     
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  6. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    But also Grier doesn't love him some injury prone players.
     
  7. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    To your point #2. The problem is that Tua cannot create, but he also cannot take a hit. While the Patriots didn't want Brady getting hit, they also weren't worried that he would be injured on a routine tackle.
     
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  8. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Picking presnap where you're throwing, and then throwing in 1.5 seconds is not quick mental processing.

    I mean, that is not what Brady or Montana did. Hell, it isn't what Pennington did.
     
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  9. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Yeah, show me a team with the amount of injuries the Dolphins sustained that won a playoff game. Hell, show me one that went to the playoffs.

    What's really amazing is the ability of some people to completely disregard things that matter and just put on their dunce caps and spout the same things over and over and over.. Like it or not, injuries matter. And the more you have, the more they matter. If they didn't, there wouldn't be a rule that states teams must tell their opponents who is playing and who is not playing. A rule that goes further than that and forces other teams to even give predictions like "Probable" and "Doubtful"....The league thinks injuries matter. Teams think injuries matter. It seems only those who think all losses are on one person don't think injuries matter. Weird
     
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  10. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Of course injuries matter. Every year it's the same freaking thing.

    Some of us are just done with the injuries excuse. Stop taking chances on players with high upside because they're cheap cause of injuries. UNLESS you are grabbing them as backups. We seem to rely on the injury prone players year in and year out.
     
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  11. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Slightly left of center
    Jalen Ramsey, not injury prone, least impactful injury cuz he was there at the end of the year, but maybe we win the Philly game, or the Barfalo game with him in there.
    Who else out of the 6 starters on Def we had out the last few games? Bradley Chub, OK he was hurt when he got here, but he was balling so that risk was paying off til it wasn't. Van Ginkle? Phillips? Holland? None of them. Eliott? Long? Baker? Don't think so. Maybe Howard but he wasn't an injured free agent so not him either?
    On Offense. Connor Williams? Nuh-uh, Armstead sure but he was playing. Mostert?
    None of those guys have a history of injury yet the only player to start and finish every game out of the starting 22? Yeah, Tua.
    Sucks brah but we were just cursed last year. Fangio brought some bad Juju or sumthin.
    I do think we need a top down shake up in the medical/training team. Not to mention strength and conditioning coaches
     
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  12. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yes, year on and year out, we have players at key positions, who we depend on, who are injured.

    CONNOR WILLIAMS TORE AN ACL IN 2019

    I disagree that the risk is worth it. The fact is, they all did get injured, and it did screw our season.
     
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  13. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    I bet Tampa wished they had never picked up Brady. What with ACL tear and all and since he’s still the 2nd highest paid player on their team even though he retired a few years back.

    That’s the thing some seem to keep missing. Players get hurt in the NFL. Period. Full stop. Except for those rare cases like Armstead, which I agree was a big gamble, you can’t predict an injury. Everyone thought Tua was done last season and said he’d never finish a full season. Instead he plays 18 games and Burrows, Herbert, Watson, etc all have season ending injuries. The Bengals, Chargers, and Browns are all stupid for picking/trading for and signing huge contracts on these players according to some here. Please. Take your 20/20 hindsight, buy a crystal ball, or a lottery ticket, and make yourselves some money since you’re so psychic.

    Or better yet, submit your résumé to the Dolphins. Lol
     
  14. JJ_79

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    I would put Phillips, Chubb, Armstead, Williams and Mostert on that injury prone list of players Grier picked up. He also takes players that are smallish for their position like Tua (also injury history), Waddle (was injured before we drafted him, didn’t like the pick back then and how we drafted him) and Achane (injury concerns because he’s smallish that was a knock on him before the draft). Sure, anybody can get injured and I’m not saying you should never take chances on players with injuries, I just think Grier gambles to much when it comes to that.
     
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  15. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, some people totally disregard facts and put on their dunch caps and spout same things over and over. 6 Bills on IR this year, Dolphins 9, Chiefs 9, Ravens 7, Lions 10 49ers 8. Like it or not other teams, playoff teams also had injuries.
     
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  16. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Are you saying because Connor Williams tore his ACL in 2019 that he was more susceptible to another ACL injury in 2023? He had a guy blocked directly into the side of his knee during the Titans game. Totally non-preventable and just unlucky.
     
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  17. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Yeah, sometimes those "dunche" caps (whatever those are) are on a little too tight and don't allow an objective look at reality which leads to misinformation and an inability to see that a long snapper on IR (such as one IR player with Detroit, isn't equal to say, a Bradley Chubb. Nor does it allow some to realize that a full season, and not just one week is more applicable when looking at an entire season.

    Reality of players that were/are on IR in 2023:

    Dolphins: 19 players- Starters: Ramsey, Chubb, JP, AVG, Williams, Baker, Wynn, Hunt

    Chiefs: 10- Starters: Cook

    Ravens: 10- Starters: NO starters

    Lions: 16- Starters: Scott Daly (long snapper), Vaitai

    49ers: 13- Starters: Hufanga

    And this of course doesn't talk about Tyreek, Waddle, and Holland missing games or playing injured.


    Of course is you want to just look at one week...Miami was missing 7 starters on IR in the playoffs. No one else was close.
     
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  18. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    I mean, Grier should have had a better crystal ball and seen how this injury would happen in 2023.
     
  19. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If it was the same knee there can be susceptible areas that are vulnerable
     
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  20. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Yeah, but the point is, same knee or not, that MOI was going to tear the ACL. We see it happen all the time in the NFL.

    And it was his right knee in 2019 and his left knee this season.
     
  21. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Deej brought up a good point so I looked to see what knee he injured in 2019...

    Grier should have definitely known that because Williams tore his right ACL in 2019 that 4 years later he would tear his left ACL. That's just called science.

    /sarcasm....lol
     
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  22. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    That is actually seen quite often.
     
  23. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Being psychic?
     
  24. dolphin25

    dolphin25 Well-Known Member

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    players hurting one knee then the other down the road. Do research on people that had knee injuries of they hurt the same knee twice
     
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  25. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Knee injuries are the most common, by far, of all NFL injuries. Just because someone had their left knee rolled up and tore an ACL doesn’t make it more likely that they will injure their right knee in the future. One has no bearing on the other.
     
  26. dolphin25

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    yet, it often happens where one tears one and then the other.
     
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  27. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    An NFL players chance of tearing an ACL is about 2-5%. Tearing the same ACL twice carries about a 5-7% chance. For those with one ACL tear, they have about a 3% chance of tearing the ACL in the opposite knee.

    In short, there’s no reason to expect a player who has had an ACL tear to have an ACL tear on the opposite knee.
     
  28. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    So what happened to Crash Jensen and whose alt was it?
     
  29. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    You were probably arguing with yourself
     
  30. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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    Ever since his really, really dumb comparisons of the NFL and military strategies, he hasn't been around much.

    Finatik also brought up the AI thing. If you go back and read some of the posts they are written in a very AI type structure. Adding random stories, words and expressions that no human would ever use on an NFL forum.
     
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  31. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Sooooo...if I'm reading that right...he's saying that Tua decides presnap where he's throwing...but his mistake has been that he's assuming the defenders will move, because he trusts the offense too much, and as a result, he's throwing into bad spots.

    So he's admitting that Tua is not doing anything post snap. Which we've been arguing for like years, and you guys have told us we're wrong and don't know football.

    But his unabashed bias is showing?
     
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  32. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Have someone else read and explain to you the post.
     
  33. hitman8

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    Studies have been done proving that athletes with ACL reconstructions are 6 times more likely to suffer another ACL injury within 2 years of their initially injury, compared to healthy athletes with no history of ACL injuries.

    Also,
    "Overall, 29.5% of athletes suffered a second ACL injury within 24 months of RTS, with 20.5% sustaining a contralateral injury and 9.0% incurring a retear injury of the ipsilateral graft."

    So most of those who suffered reinjuries had it occur on the opposite knee of their initially injury.

    I've had my right ACL reconstructed so I can speek from experience that you subconciously start favoring and protecting the repaired leg after surgery, which puts more pressure on the other leg and increases injury risk to the other leg.

    I have to conciously work on stengthening both legs equally and not try to favor one over the other.

    Not saying that is exactly what happened with Williams, but it is very common to have a second injury on your opposite leg. It is best to stay away from injured players if you are going to depend on them to anchor your line or be a key starter in a position that puts a lot of pressure on your knee.

    Your Brady example is also not a good one since mobility was never a big part of his game anyway, and QBs is not a position that puts a lot of pressure on your knees.

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0363546514530088
     
  34. danmarino

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    Leave it to you to totally misunderstand a scientific study. Lmao

    You’re quoting a study that is basically saying that an ACL injury before healing (within 12 months post surgery) is apt to get injured again. Well no sh!t. lol

    The study then explicitly states that the injury rate after 12 months is lower, but doesn’t give the numbers. I provided those numbers. As for injury to the contralateral leg, try again. Your anecdotal evidence and inability to understand a scientific study makes me laugh.
     
  35. hitman8

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    No genius, that’s not what it says. Reading comprehension is not your strong point. The study states very clearly they are measuring reinjury rates in the 24 months AFTER return to sport (RTS) and comparing that to an uninjured population of athletes in the same time period.

    After return to sport means they have already gone through rehab and healed from the surgery.

    Obviously no doctor is going to clear them to return to sport and include them in a study if they have not rehabed and healed yet.

    The numbers and conclusions are very clear. Athletes who have had and ACL injury are a lot more likely to have a second ACL injury when compared to uninjured athletes, and in most cases it will be to the opposite leg.
     
  36. Finatik

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    This has to be a bittersweet week for Miami Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel. Surely, he’s thrilled that his former San Francisco 49ers colleagues and players are in the Super Bowl. But he isn’t thrilled that he’s not there as well, representing the AFC. That’s going to change soon if the testimonials from current 49ers players are true.

    San Francisco 49ers Praise Miami Dolphins’ Mike McDaniel
    “Least surprising thing I’ve ever seen,” 49ers fullback Kyle Juszczyk said of McDaniel’s early success in Miami.

    Juszczyk, who worked with McDaniel in San Francisco for the first five years of his career, continued:

    “I absolutely knew he was gonna succeed no matter where he went. I have so much love and admiration for Mike. He’s one of the smartest football minds I’ve ever been around in my life. And he is truly a great leader and he leads in a different way, but one that I think, you know, we’ve seen is successful and, and works at this level.

    “And even talking to some of his players, nothing but good things have been said about how he leads his team,” Juszczyk added. “And I’m so happy for him because he’s just such a great person. He works his absolute tail off, and he deserves all the success.”

    McDaniel is at least partially responsible for Juszczyk’s success. McDaniel’s focus was on the run game in San Francisco, and he schemed up creative ways to maximize the 49ers’ versatile fullback. “Michael McDaniel, he was awesome over here, man,” said 49ers running back Elijah Mitchell, who rushed for 963 yards and five touchdowns with McDaniel as his offensive coordinator his rookie season. “He was the guru of getting our run game, man. It’s unbelievable. And like I say, man, what he’s doing in Miami? It’s not surprising. He’s smart, smart as hell. A great coach. ”McDaniel in his two seasons has a 20-14 regular-season record and has been largely responsible for the big leap in Tua Tagovailoa’s performance the last two seasons. McDaniel worked alongside longtime friend and associate Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco from 2017 through 2021.
     
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  37. danmarino

    danmarino Tua is H1M! Club Member

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    Nonsense. McD isn’t a leader and he’s just goofy.
     
  38. Finatik

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    I think his ChatGPT died. LOL
     
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  39. OwesOwn614

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    From cbssports.com in an article that ranks NFL coaching staffs:

    Miami Dolphins
    Head coach: Mike McDaniel | Offensive coordinator: Frank Smith | Defensive coordinator: Anthony Weaver

    McDaniel is one of the most intriguing head coaches in the NFL that knows how to scheme on offense, but his Dolphins fell off at the end of the regular season, and looked completely off while playing in the cold conditions Missouri provided. While he's not the architect of this offense, Smith was voted the top offensive coordinator by NFL players this past season, and new defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, formerly the Ravens' assistant head coach, was a head-coaching candidate and a sought-after defensive assistant. Miami has to be more consistent, and finish out the regular season strong. The Dolphins also defeated just one playoff team this year.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...t-cowboys-jets-face-questions-for-new-season/
     

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